A look at some past experiences and memories, part nine
October 2, 2015
By Avi Green
We now arrive at the ninth installment in this little scrutiny we’re
doing of the leftism and other embarrassments at the onetime Captain
Comics website (see
here for part eight). Here’s some mailbag entries from April
4, 2001:
Say, Cap: One point I think has been missing from the
debate over whether comics should go back to the simpler stories
of yesteryear: Yes, stories that were complete in one issue and
didn't require much knowledge of what had gone before help hook
readers who have never followed comics before, as in the old
Marvel saying "Every comic is someone's first comic." But those
stories have trouble building the deep, serious love of the
medium that keeps readers coming back into adulthood.
I myself read comics as a kid, gave 'em up as other things
caught my attention, but came back in the late '80s because of
the Byrne/Claremont X-Men and Frank Miller's Daredevil run.
Those, it seems to me, hit a middle course modern comics could
do well to follow: Stories reached a resolution in one, or at
most two, issues, but there were also significant subplots
running through them which made the story much richer if you
came back every month. In the '90s, I think we abandoned the
idea that every comic is someone's first, and therefore in
concentrating on the soap-opera aspects that appealed to older
readers, lost the idea that subplots have to END sometime! How
long did the Legacy Virus go on, for example? There's no reason
the end of that storyline would have been any less satisfying 10
years ago.
Grant Morrison says he's going to clean house at the X-Men
and tie up some of the loose ends from the
Claremont/Lobdell/Nicieza years. More power to him. But his JLA,
much as I love it as a lifelong fan, showed some of the same
problems as the X-Men: Very few issues could be picked up in
isolation and make any sense. JLA was not, in fact, a series of
short 24-page stories, but one long, continuous three-year saga,
and unless you read it that way, it lost a lot. (And of course,
the loose, muddy, inaccessible art didn't help.)
Joe Quesada is on record as saying his Marvel is going to
put the creators first. Well and good. But let's not abandon all
creative discipline, as both big companies did during the last
decade, and just let writers spin their wheels for years without
going anywhere, or allow artists to turn in work that, unless
they're illustrating world-class prose, is actively difficult to
puzzle out. Quesada's record at Marvel Knights suggests he knows
how to strike that balance; the balance may be toward longer,
five- or six-issue arcs, but each individual issue at least had
something going on that a new reader could latch onto.
DC doesn't seem to worry much about letting newbies in,
with the endless convoluted storylines in Batman, Superman and
The Flash. But one of their acquisitions, The Authority, stands
out structurally because it's packaged in four-issue arcs.
Furthermore, each issue seriously advances the plot; it raises
the tension to lead into the next one; and even though three of
the four issues end on a cliffhanger, each issue still has a
beginning, middle and end. DC could apply this model quite
widely, and I think the result would be better comics, not just
for the new reader, but for us old salts as well.
You make some excellent points, […] -- mainly, of course, because
I agree with all of them!
I don't think anybody's suggesting a return to the simplified,
non-continuity-conscious days of, say, Mort Weisinger's Superman
comics. After all, they were left in the dust by the Lee/Kirby
Marvel Age of Comics in sales.
And, clearly, the day of the Claremontian Neverending Saga has
staggered to its nadir, as even long-term fans such as myself --
I've been reading X-Men continuously since 1963 -- are being
turned off by the impenetrable plotting.
So, certainly, a middle ground of some sort is called for. I hate
to sound like a fuddy-duddy, but the Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four and
the Lee/Ditko Amazing Spider-Man are terrific examples of exactly
that. Stories had beginnings, middles and ends; subplots reached
their natural resolution; the characters actually progressed while
a recognizable status quo was maintained -- and most importantly,
they appealed to newbies and old hands alike. Any individual issue
was accessibly to a new reader, whereas at the same time, the
implication of a larger backstory whetted the appetite for those
who wanted more. It was those stories, in fact, that developed a
college-age audience for comics, and created the "lifelong fan"
category that you and I find ourselves in. Prior to the Marvel
Age, readership turnover was believed to be every three years.
But no, I'm not advocating a return to the "Marvel Age of Comics."
Times do change, and perhaps The Authority is a better example of
a writing style for the 21st century. Content aside -- you
certainly wouldn't give an issue of The Authority to anyone under
18 -- the stories have natural arcs, are given to being packaged
as TPBs, and will likely stand the test of time in bookstores (a
venue comics must break into to survive).
I also agree with your point about not giving creators complete
freedom. In fact, most of the ills attributed to today's comics
could and should be handled by a strong editorial hand. In our
race to give creators greater say, we sometimes forget why editors
are deemed necessary in every avenue of publishing. I can't
enumerate the number of times I've put down a comic book and
thought, "Geez, if I was the editor on that one, I'd have changed
that." And I won't blame that so much on the recent X-problems; I
think it stems at least as far back as the writer/editor
experiment at Marvel (and later DC), where fairly decent writers
became terrible writers -- because they were also their own
editors, which allowed minor eccentricities to become major
problems.
European comics have often been touted because creators are given
such freedom. But can anybody really "read" something by Enki
Bilal and tell me it makes sense? Is Jean "Moebius" Girard
anybody's idea of a good writer? Is it just me, or shouldn't
somebody find something for Milo Manara to illustrate other than
his own m*******tion fantasies?
And if anyone thinks that it's not happening here, I think all I
have to say is "Image Comics." That company was founded on the
idea that artists don't need writers or editors. Now Image is
scrambling to hire the best of both.
Here are some more thoughts on the subject:
Before we get to that, let’s ponder how
Morrison’s take on X-Men has come and gone, and his only idea for
how to houseclean was to write a technical sequel to the “Mutant
Massacre” from the mid-80s, which saw tons of Morlocks wiped out by
Mr. Sinister, among other terrible incidents. And Quesada put
writers first alright…based on their popularity with specific
segments of audience, not according to how talented they are, or how
well they understood the material, or even what ideas they could
bring to the table. I’d even argue Morrison’s take on JLA was
overrated, because acted as though a specific group – Superman,
Wonder Woman, Batman, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern and Martian
Manhunter must be the only true team at nearly all times, and very
few others mattered. Or, as though Superman must be present and
leading the team in each and every tale. Actually, maybe worse is
that he was pretty much okay with Hal Jordan’s desecration at the
hands of Kevin Dooley, and he gave a telling hint when he wrote in a
scene where Batman tells Kyle Rayner he likes him more than Hal
because unlike Hal, Kyle knows the meaning of fear! Sigh. How did we
ever get to the point where people think a non-existent human
literally doesn’t blench, and won’t fault the past writers for
failing to meet their expectations? Or, how is it we’re not willing
to acknowledge those faults logically? Now about that other letter:
Hi, Captain! You have an excellent Web site; I've
been spending many hours surfing through it, and I am
overwhelmed by the amount of information contained within. I
started reading comic books in 1978 after watching a TV
newsmagazine called Special Edition do a feature on Marvel
Comics. I quit reading and collecting comic books after I moved
to the Philippines in 1984, but a former editor of mine piqued
my curiosity about DC's New Wave of British authors in 1989. In
a year's time I finally caught up with the rest of comicdom on
Alan Moore, and I discovered the iconoclastic genius of Grant
Morrison, Neil Gaiman and Jamie Delano. I started writing for
Amazing Heroes in 1989, but when they folded in the early '90s,
I started to become disillusioned with the art form. The Image
explosion of the early '90s, to me, was the worst trend in
comic-book history; storytelling in mainstream superhero books
was tossed to the lions, and pin-up pages infected comics like
Ebola.
However, I've been noticing a change, a return to basics.
Grant Morrison's makeover on the Justice League was a
significant step in bringing back intelligence, creativity and a
healthy respect for the past to mainstream comic books. I just
picked up an issue of Christopher Priest's Black Panther, and I
enjoyed it. I also like Joe Kelly's take on Clark Kent/Superman
and Lois Lane.
What is STILL lacking in today's comics is a sense of
wonder. Grant Morrison had it in JLA. I'm burned out on
depressing, gloom-and-doom comics. Don't get me wrong -- I love
dark comics a la Moore's Swamp Thing, Garth Ennis's Hellblazer
and Gaiman's early Sandman. Unfortunately, it's become cliched;
too many comic books have glum characters, bleak narratives and
ominous art.
I was wondering: Have you read Rumiko Takahashi's Maison
Ikkoku? This has become one of my all-time favorite
series. Forget the anime; the manga, especially in its later
books, have a warmth and wit that is rare in any entertainment
media. If you haven't read any Maison Ikkoku, I highly recommend
the series. It is the Strangers in Paradise of Japan. I've never
seen a comic book handle romantic relationships so
realistically. Whenever you're looking for a change of pace from
the darkness of modern comics, brew a cup of coffee for Maison
Ikkoku. You will love it.
Thanks for the recommendation, [name withheld] -- I'll have to
give Maison Ikkoku a try.
And I agree with your assessment about gloom-and-doom,
grim-and-gritty comics. I love Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns,
Marvels, The Golden Age, Preacher, Ennis's Hellblazer, Moore's
Swamp Thing, Azzarello's 100 Bullets, etc., etc. -- but, geez, a
steady diet of anything isn't good for you.
Particularly when it comes to superhero comics. If there's one
thing that being a superhero ought to be, it's FUN. Even if you're
a mope like Cyclops or Spider-Man, you can do things that nobody
else can, and you experience things that nobody else does. Even
when things are at their worst for Peter Parker, I still think it
would be more fun to be Spider-Man than to be you or me.
And I wish the comics would show that more often. Superhero comics
can be serious -- but let's not forget the underlying sensawunda
that drew us to these four-color flights of fantasy to begin with.
I mean, gee whiz, how awful can it be to Superman? That's one guy
who ought to be pretty cheerful.
Smith’s long proven he doesn’t agree with
the correspondent about anything. Did Identity Crisis, Avengers:
Disassembled and Civil War have a sense of wonder? Nope, and yet he
praised them anyway. If he really cared, he would’ve argued to that
effect in his newspaper columns long, long ago. That he’s failed to
do so speaks volumes about his dishonesty.
Dear Cap: I read my Uncanny X-Men #392 yesterday with
glee and enthusiasm over new X-Men members including the
oh-so-controversial Northstar. Little did I realize the
thrilled-and-amazed quotient would multiply when -- lo and
behold -- on the last page one of my favorite X-Men ever,
Dazzler, returned! "THE DAZZ IS BACK! THE DAZZ IS BACK!" I
shouted, jumping off my bed and dancing in circles. Once my
elation died down a bit, it hit me: They're gonna kill her,
aren't they? They just killed Colossus and Moira (MacTaggert)
and are threatening more deaths with the upcoming X-Men
overhaul. So it kind of looks like the Dazzler is going to get
purged, especially since she's not with Longshot, who has been
labeled "fan favorite." The Dazzler is more likely labeled "fan
least favorite" all because of those darn roller skates.
So my question to you, good Captain, is do you think that
Marvel is going to kill the Dazzler? And do you think that my
beloved Allison Blaire really deserves death?
Okay, sure she spent a few too many years in the '80s
wearing roller skates when everybody knew that disco was dead,
but she redeemed herself with that snazzy blue costume and (what
I thought was) a memorable stint in the X-Men.
The whole fame element is my main reason for keeping
Dazzler. It was a fun twist on the mutant syndrome even if was
barely written into her X-Men years (the graphic novel and the
stalker issue during the Seige Perilous mess). Would you still
hate mutants if one of your favorite stars turned out to be one?
The Australian year(s) may have been kind of hokey with the
X-Men as living legends, but the team was rock solid, mixing the
old faithful (Storm, Wolverine, Colossus and Rogue) with some
fun second-stringers who needed more attention (the Dazz, Havok,
Longshot and the pre-ninja makeover Psylocke). And Dazzler
earned her X-Men stripes when Spiral knifed Destiny's mask to
her face.
Dumping Dazzler and Longshot off into the Mojoverse was a
cheap cop-out of writing around some fun (I keep using that word
for a reason) and challenging characters. Though I'm trying and
failing not to mention the whole baby/Shatterstar thing. I
should be writing this to Marvel Comics but I have a feeling Mr.
Quesada and his grim reapers have already waved their scythe. So
instead I'm trying to keep Dazzler's spirit alive with
(semi-)intelligent dialogue about her merits to the Marvel U. It
looks like my dream for a second-string X-Men team of Banshee,
Quicksilver, Angel, Polaris and Dazzler will remain a dream.
Next week I'm going to fret over my beloved New
Mutants/Hellions/X-Force who I also fear are destined for death
or, even worse, limbo.
Don't let the Dazzler die!
Gosh, [withheld], I dunno what to say. On the one hand, your naked
enthusiasm for a comic-book character warms my palsied heart and I
truly don't want you to be disappointed. On the other hand ...
Dazzler? Yech!
OK, that's not exactly "semi-intelligent dialogue." But I confess,
as I often have on this site, that a character's introduction,
when poor, turns me off virtually forever. (You don't get a second
chance to make a first impression.) And I'll never forgive
Dazzler's wretched intro in The (Uncanny) X-Men #130 (Feb 80). It
was a ham-handed effort to cash in on a fad (disco) that was
already dead, using Marvel's most popular title. She was poorly
conceived, it was poorly executed, and Dazzler was represented as
a shallow nitwit with (yes) roller skates and a disco ball around
her neck. Yech!
The character was made more palatable in later years, becoming
less shallow and more superheroish, but I never forgot that her
initial reaction to the X-Men was: "Who needs you?" Frankly, I had
to agree with her, and -- despite her equally egregious ongoing
series where she actually fought Galactus, for God's sake -- I
always thought that she had no business in the X-Men, and should
have been making inroads for mutant acceptance by maintaining her
singing career. Wouldn't that have been ultimately more
beneficial, than just being another Spandex-clad superdoer, hated
and feared by the world she sought to protect? And she was
uniquely positioned to do just that.
So, it won't grieve me if Dazzler goes to that big Studio 54 in
the sky, as she has been a disappointment to me on every level.
But I'm not a heartless man, to cast cold water on your heartfelt
plea. If any other correspondents want to take up the defense of
Dazzler and her contributions to the X-universe, I'll be happy to
present their views.
Wow, more fascination galore as Mr. Smith
writes an ambiguous critique of Dazzler, but at least he’s willing
to admit his biggest flaw: dare to commit the thoughtcrime of making
one mistake in writing, and he’ll declare a fictional character
persona non grata for life! Besides, I don’t think disco was
entirely dead by that time. And he’s making the mistake of implying
he doesn’t like X-Men either, not based on story quality, you can be
sure.
Dazzler didn’t die in the story by Scott Lobdell, but his tale in
UXM from 2001 was still truly awful, and much like his earlier story
in Alpha Flight, it hammered Northstar’s homosexuality over the
readers’ heads. Lobdell only proved why he’s an otherwise terrible
writer with that embarrassment.
Hi, Cap: It's been some time since I've written you
and I intend to write more soon, but I thought I'd send a brief
comment to you.
<<I find Harvey Pekar a boring and unpleasant person --
and, given the autobiographical nature of American Splendor, he
probably is. American Splendor is like the movie American
Beauty, but without Kevin Spacey's charm. But there's got to be
some reason Pekar keeps getting invited on Letterman, so if you
haven't tried it, you probably should and make up your own mind.
-- Captain Comics>>
First, let me say that I agree with your assessment of Mr.
Pekar. I always wondered why anyone would want to read stories
about him. I wouldn't want to sit next to him on a bus, much
less hear tales about his day-to-day life.
I don't think Harvey Pekar has been invited back on any
David Letterman program since the 1980s. Harvey wore a shirt
denouncing General Electric (then NBC's parent company) on NBC's
Late Night with David Letterman and said some things about the
company that made even Letterman nervous, and he's known to
needle his bosses on his show. After this incident Harvey Pekar
was not asked back on Late Night and I don't believe he's been
on CBS's Late Show.
I just thought I'd fill you in on what I know about that
tidbit.
Thanks, [withheld]! I'd sure like to know what Pekar could have
said to discombobulate the acerbic Letterman!
Now let's return to the comics-as-magazines conversation ...
I’m skeptical Mr. Smtih really dislikes
Pekar, given he sure doesn’t have many critiques to offer for other
crummy people working in comicdom today, and sure doesn’t deliver
any tour de force critiques in his paper colums. Also note his
lenient take on American Beauty, which was one of the most
disgusting movies filmed circa the end of the last century. It
depicted a father engaging in a statutory tryst with an underage
teen, and we're supposed to think that's art? The whole vision
espoused there was crap.
So, where do comics go next? The magazine format
isn't feasible due to lack of interest from advertisers who are
looking for big circulation numbers. Supposedly the trade
paperback business is solid, but you need the traditional format
to generate the material in the first place. I still come back
to the idea of fewer titles/fatter format; i.e., 100-Page
Monsters/Super-Spectaculars. The equivalent of two current
titles could be combined into one publication with the remaining
pages filled out by reprints. Put on a cover price around 4 or 5
bucks and it will still seem like a good deal. Marvel and DC
have enough in their archives to fill out these type of
publications; the smaller publishers, however, could have a
problem.
The other issue that could make or break the industry is
how to bring in new readers. I have always felt that if you
aren't into reading comic books by about age 10 or 11, you never
will be. I can't see someone in their 20s or 30s with a job and
family responsibilites taking up comics as a hobby. Although the
direct market saved the comic book from oblivion in the '70s, it
also cut off comics from anyone other than the hard-core fan.
Short term it helped create the '90s boom; long term it may have
only prolonged the inevitable. The comic book, as we know it,
may have been living on borrowed time the past two decades.
Frankly, I don't know the answer to that, […] -- and clearly,
neither do the comics publishers. I, too, would love to see lots
of Big, Fat Monster comics, with perhaps one new 22-page story and
another three or four full-length reprints. And I think kids would
love it -- because I loved 80-Page Giants and Annuals as a kid. I
also think a 100-page or 200-page all-reprint Bat-book or
Super-book or Spider-book would sell extremely well also -- if you
could find some way to market it outside of comic shops and get it
to where kids could see it. That, as they say, is the rub, bub.
A bit of advice for the correspondent:
don’t ask Mr. Smith how to turn around a long dire situation,
because he’s never made the case in his columns, and he sure isn’t
thinking big in his response. I would just note that smaller
publishers do have more than enough material for trades, depending
which ones we’re talking about, like Dark Horse and IDW. Now for
another letter I’d written:
Dear Cap: You know, after three years already, I’m
really starting to miss Betty Banner.
As the girlfriend and later wife of Bruce Banner/The Hulk,
she gave him a reason to live. And without her, believe me, he’s
nothing. Marvel’s writers may be able to go on for several more
years without her, but trust me, they won’t be able to do so for
long.
That’s why I’m definitely glad that they left the door open
for her to be resurrected. Three years ago, her father,
Thunderbolt Ross, hid her body in a glass coffin in the basement
of his Army base. I remember when I read the issue in which
Marlo Jones read a diary that Betty had given her and Rick, in
which I also learned that they’d almost been able to have a
child, but apparently miscarried. Which, if I’m right, is also a
bad fate that even Mary Jane Watson had in 1995.
That’s pretty sad, isn’t it, when the protagonists fail to
have kids? Reed Richards and Sue Storm were very lucky to have
their son Franklin, but other than them, I can’t think at this
moment of any others who’ve been able to have kids with the
exception of Cyclops and Madelyne Pryor bearing Cable. I think
it’s about time that Marvel started giving some characters a
chance to be mommies and daddies, and I hope that in the future
they’ll give some of their characters a chance.
Right now, though, I’m very happy that Mary Jane has
returned, even though as I’ve read elsewhere on the web, she’s
asked Peter Parker to let her take some time to recuperate in
California. Marvel has said that they’ll be fully reunited in
the 50th issue of Spider-Man, and I hope they keep their word on
that.
I wonder if one of the reasons why characters like Gwen
Stacy and Harry Osborn, for example, may never return from the
dead is because, well ... they’re characters without any
superpowers, and they’ve also got no fighting skills. A girl
like Elektra was able to be resurrected because, although she’s
got no superhuman powers, she does have fighting skills, and she
has fought baddies before.
In Betty Banner’s case, although with the exception of the
time that she was turned into a creature called Harpy, she
doesn’t have any superpowers, she should be resurrected because
she’s irreplaceable. She was also the only person who could
stand between Thunderbolt Ross’s bias against the Hulk, and
since she’d been with us for so long, there’s no way that she
can be replaced.
And likewise, since Mary Jane’s been around for so long,
having appeared as early as the mid-1960s, if I’m correct, she
too has put her stamp on the Marvel Universe, and like Betty
Banner is irreplaceable.
After all these years of the Gwen Stacy Syndrome, I’d
rather that the girls not be killed, and I think that maybe it
is time for more men to be done in, although I myself would
rather only those who’re unappealing, like Gambit, be killed
off.
While I’m at it, I’ve also got a link to a new article
about Gilbert and Jaime Hernandez’s latest version of Love and
Rockets that was published this week in the Philadelphia City
Paper:
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/031501/bq.loveandrockets.shtml
And I was so glad to find it. All the book reviews these
past few weeks in the City Paper were lousy, but this one was
solid gold. Enjoy!
I agree that killing off Betty Ross-Banner was a misguided idea,
Avi -- for the simple reason that it removes the only plausible
reason (in my mind) that Bruce Banner doesn't simply put a bullet
in his head. If I were capable -- no, likely -- to accidentally
kill hundreds of people accidentally every day I drew breath, then
continuing my existence would be the height of irresponsibility
and selfishness. On the other hand, I would probably eagerly
justify it to myself (however erroneously) if there was somebody
depending on me -- a wife, for example, or a child. Without Betty
in the picture, a lot of my sympathy for Banner -- and my
suspension of disbelief -- drains out of the picture.
Strangely, this reminds me of a quote by Hulk writer Paul Jenkins
(I think). He said writing the Hulk was boring, but Bruce Banner
was infinitely fascinating, if for no other reason than to figure
out why he hasn't killed himself yet. But since the Hulk is what
people come to see, you've got to have a big green guy smashing
things. I don't know why I brought that up, except that it's an
interesting insight -- not only on the Hulk character and his
writers, but on us, the audience.
Anyway, now that the deed is done vis-a-vis Betty Ross-Banner, I'd
prefer it stay done. As little as I care for the Gwen Stacy
Syndrome, I don't want Gwen -- or Betty -- making a comeback. For
death to have any dramatic impact in comics, then gee whiz --
SOMEBODY'S got to stay dead!
Oh, and by the way, you've got it backwards -- Sue Storm suffered
a miscarriage with her second child (and is leery of trying
again), but Mary Jane Watson-Parker did indeed successfully bear a
daughter, who was whisked away by the Green Goblin to Europe (last
I heard), and Peter and MJ were TOLD there had been a miscarriage,
while the latter was unconscious and the former was off fighting
evil. The Parkers are unaware their daughter survived, but we
aren't -- after all, she grows up to be Spider-Girl, doesn't she?
Anyway, I'm on record that I would have been pleased to see
Marvel's characters continue to age, get married, have kids and
settle down, retire and die -- and for a new generation to carry
on the titles for the kids growing up today. Can you imagine a
wizened, grandfatherly Reed Richards advising the Human Torch's
kid on fighting supervillains? Wouldn't it be cool to have "wise
elders" in the MU -- whom the kids would promptly ignore? Can you
imagine a 50-year-old Peter Parker's impatience with a smartmouth
young superhero? And wasn't that a great scene in the Fantastic
Four/Fantastic 4 '99 Annual, where the long-lived heroes of the MU
-- Thor, Dr. Strange, Vision, Wolverine -- were sitting around
playing poker sometime in the future and reminiscing about old
friends who'd died in battle, or in bed? ("Remember how Cap bought
it?" "Yeah, I loved that man. And wasn't it a shame about
Hawkeye?" "Yeah, that's not how he would have chosen to go."
Brought a tear to my eye, it did.) What must it be like to be
Thor, and know that everybody around you will die in -- what must
seem to him -- the blink of an eye?
One thing that set Marvel apart in the '60s is that their
characters DID age -- a process that stopped sometime in the early
'70s -- and I enjoyed the idea that events MATTERED in the Marvel
Universe. That when Peter Parker graduated from high school, it
was never-to-repeated event -- his life would move on, like my
own. Now, of course, the Marvel characters have joined their DC
counterparts as unaging icons, so perforce we'll see only endless
recycling -- and, like Archie Andrews, Peter Parker will never
turn 30 and enjoy the rest of life's rich pageant. Too bad.
I may have gotten it backwards about Sue,
but he got it backwards about Betty! How do we make clear that there
are distinctions between deaths that were written well and those
that were not? And, those that were written in poor taste, like many
of the details involving Jean Grey? As somebody who’s not a fan of
the Phoenix story – or wouldn’t have been if it remained as it was
in 1980 – I found it horrific that a girl whom I thought we were
meant to care for was turned into a murderess who wiped out a couple
million beings in the Shi’ar galaxy. I remember the first time I
read one of those particular lines – I felt sick and depressed.
That’s why I’m glad it was retconned in 1985 – no sane person wants
a fictional character we were meant to root for turned into a
monster. In fact, no sane person wants the kind of slaughter we have
far too much of running rampant in real life littering adventure
comics either.
As for aging? Well duh, it figures they wouldn’t want to age their
heroes by too much. Being young is a form of wish fulfillment,
especially for women, I’m sure. So if I ever said I’d wish they
aged, I regret it now.
Dear Andrew: I just had to write and tell you how
much I enjoyed your column in the latest CBG. I laughed my
(butt) off!! Seriously, thank you so much for the write-up about
Kang and your awesome youthful exuberance over figuring out this
whole time-travel thing. "Huh!" Keep up the good work and do
more humor bits in your columns. You're pretty good at it.
Thanks, [...]! Every once in a while I feel the need to run a
letter like yours to remind me why I do this in the first place!
Oh, and also to offset letters like the following, which takes me
sternly to task:
Before getting to that, a respectable
disagreement with the correspondent about Smith’s humor. He’s bad at
it. Especially when he sensationalizes stories that make light of
sexual abuse like Identity Crisis.
Dear Captain: In the March 15 Q& A ... you and a
few letter writers ruminate on Batwoman's origin and training,
and nitpick the flimsy explanation for her athletic abilities,
her detective skills and for seeming to have fun on her
adventures. The Captain complains about the "Alicia Silverstone
Syndrome" -- that donning a costume, in and of itself, confers
Olympic-level gymnastic skill. And Adam Benson pooh-poohs
Batwoman's detective talents and writes, "The idea that
crimefighting is fun is absurd -- just ask any policeman (even
setting aside the tedious paperwork) how much 'fun'
crimefighting is. There would have to be something greater
motivating any rational person to tolerate the pain, injury,
lack of sleep, loss of social life and financial incursion than
just having 'fun'."
Fellows -- this is comics! Moreover, this is '50s Silver
Age comics! If you want realism, read The Wall Street Journal!
If you look at these stories through modern eyes, with modern
sensibilities, expecting them to be "realistic," they'll all
fall apart!
For example, look at the origin for the Silver Age
Supergirl. In a way, she had it worse than Superman. He came to
Earth as a baby and learned of the demise of Krypton only later;
she grew up with her family on Argo City with full knowledge of
that calamity, only to have them and their entire community die
from radiation poisoning when the ground beneath their feet
turned to kryptonite. Rocketed to Earth as an adolescent, she
meets her long-lost cousin, Kal-El, her last living relative and
the only other survivor of their civilization and planet -- and
does he embrace her, throw a feast in her honor, welcome her
into his home? No! He says, "Great Rao, I can't let anybody know
you exist!" He sends her to an orphanage, changes her name,
gives her a dopey disguise, and swears her to secrecy! Even when
they spend time together, he insists that nobody must know who
she is.
Put that way, it sounds awfully cruel, doesn't it?
Or consider: If Peter Parker had been bitten by a
radioactive spider, he wouldn't have gained "the proportionate
strength of a spider" and the ability to cling to walls; he'd
have died of radiation poisoning. If Bruce Banner had been a few
hundred yards from ground zero of a gamma bomb blast, he
wouldn't have turned into a cross between Mr. Hyde and
Frankenstein; he'd have died of radiation poisoning. If Reed
Richards and company had stolen a rocket and encountered "cosmic
rays," they wouldn't have turned into superheroes; when they
returned, they'd have died of radiation poisoning after they
were prosecuted for espionage. If Tony Stark had tripped a
hidden land mine in the jungle, he wouldn't have jury-rigged a
"transistor-powered" suit of armor to keep his heart beating; he
wouldn't have lived long enough to try. (But at least he
wouldn't have died of radiation poisoning -- just ordinary
infection if he didn't bleed to death first.)
I know, nobody said they wanted or expected these stories
to be realistic. But they are supposed to be fun, and that's
what the creators of the old stories put first -- that and
mechanical, pragmatic concerns (i.e., creating the Fantastic
Four because the competition had a popular super-team; giving
Batman a kid sidekick for the readers to identify with; giving
half the other heroes kid sidekicks because Robin caught on so
well; creating a Supergirl for female readers but not upsetting
the status quo, etc.) Coming up with realistic motivations for
these characters wasn't high on the list; these were adventure
stories, not documentaries.
Certainly, today's writers would go farther to craft
plausible (if not "realistic") explanations for how, and why,
these characters do what they do, and today's stories are better
for it -- to some degree. But I maintain that whenever people
talk about making comics "realistic," they mean doing something
that takes all the fun out of it.
Great Rao, […] -- you're right! These superheroes are
ridiculous! Why am I wasting my time with this drivel? Back to
Dostoevsky for this kid!
Seriously, we're just having fun. If we can't gig the characters
we've devoted a lifetime to reading, who can we gig? Adam's love
for Silver Age characters bleeds through every sentence he writes
-- but that doesn't mean he's turned off all higher faculties, and
doesn't see the inherent absurdity of some of the characters and
situations. And I grew up on Silver Age characters, leaping over
the gaps in logic with practiced ease, and still do. (Although,
the Supergirl thing did bother me at the time -- poor kid, why
didn't Supes do a little more to make her feel at home? She
certainly was well-adjusted, given the emotional trauma she went
through on Argo City and rejection from her own flesh and blood on
Earth. Not to mention that Kal-El was probably the only person on
Earth she could have non-fatal sex with.)
But I still set in my heels over the Alicia Silverstone Syndrome.
Silver Age characters I readily forgive -- well, OK, maybe not
Batwoman -- but modern creators I hold to a higher standard and I
want a bit more help suspending my disbelief. I'm still looking
for the "plausible explanation" you mention for Hellcat! On the
flip side, it's one of my huge enthusiasms for the new Batgirl.
Her origin goes way beyond plausible and makes her a valid
character in her own right, not just a spinoff from a male
character to secure the trademark. Or a dopey gimmick, like
Batwoman. Oops! There I go again!
Thanks for writing in -- maybe we've started another debate!
Not sure whether it’s Batwoman or Batgirl
we’re talking about, but honestly, it is petty to complain about
characters supposedly getting combat skills out of nowhere. What
should be criticized is if the writers failed to provide any clear
explanations in a followup story.
Unfortunately, the correspondent may have been one who sided with
Identity Crisis, so his argument doesn’t carry much weight here.
They’ve started another debate alright, just not one they might’ve
hoped for!
Dear Captain: First, you mention two comic adaptions
of Beowulf. There is at least one more quite recent one by Girth
Hinds and TheComic.com (you can see samples at www.thecomic.com)
-- maybe that is the one the reader was thinking of.
Second, I was thinking about the comment two weeks ago by
someone that we do not see much of Bruce Wayne as opposed to
Clark Kent. It reminded me of an interview of some comics
creator or other who talked about the difference of the Secret
IDs of the two. He suggested that whereas Superman is kind of
boring because of his incredible power leaving him in control of
most situations, Clark Kent is interesting because he cannot use
that power (to its fullest at least) and so there is more
tension. On the other hand, Bruce Wayne is boring because he
just hangs around cocktail parties and whatnot, but Batman is
much more interesting because he is constantly testing his
limits fighting against incredible odds with no superhuman
powers. Well at least that is how I remember what he said -- it
has been a while. That being said I think Bruce Wayne could do
interesting and exciting stuff (like fight a corporate war with
Lex) but I think it would be harder to write entertainingly than
more traditional scenarios (i.e., fights).
Finally, even though I like the Rick Jones of the early
days of the Avengers I can see how the name mascot applies. What
I cannot understand is why you seem to say in your column on the
JLA/Avengers that Rick Jones was not mascoting for the Avengers
until #3, but he was their from the ground floor (#1) as The
Hulk's "mascot" and indeed played an integral role in the
Avengers origin (but then so did Loki :), as I am sure you know.
I am curious do I detect a certain dislike for honorary
members (mascots) of superteams? I guess it is a bit ridiculous
to have skilled or superpowered crimefighters to allow rank
amateurs to run around with them risking life and limb, not to
mention the often hackneyed attempts to portray youth culture.
Still I like Rick Jones (I cannot speak for any other mascots)
in those early Avengers; he is just easier to relate to than the
other characters somehow. Also, you have to admit to face the
kind of danger super-mascots do without training or powers is
very brave (or is foolish the better term?).
Hope this will not prompt another visit by the Captain
Comics of Earth-Three. :)
Unfortunately, the Captain Comics of Earth-Three has already
escaped from the impenetrable bubble in the misty borderlands
between worlds -- but he hasn't shown up in the Comics Cave
lately. He's probably busy doing something nefarious elsewhere,
like being a telephone sales representative or deliberately
getting orders wrong at a fast-food restaurant. Yes, he is just
that evil.
Anyway, I did have a certain disdain for the Robins, Snapper Carrs
and Rick Joneses of comic-book land in the '60s and '70s,
primarily for the reasons you cite: 1) It lowered my estimation of
a Captain America or a Batman when they deliberately endangered
minors, and 2) that egregious dialogue was really hard to swallow!
This applies especially to Snapper and Rick; when they were
teenagers I was a teenager, and the bizarre lingo they spouted
resembled nothing ever heard in my neighborhood. If I had begun
babbling that pseudo-Beatnik patois at my junior high, I wouldn't
have survived until lunchtime.
Either that, or it's sheer jealousy. :)
Anyway all three of the characters cited above -- Robin, Snapper
and Rick -- have grown into more interesting, fully-fleshed and
plausible characters in the last decade or so and I now enjoy
reading about them.
Oh for crying out loud. It’s bad enough
they’re raising heckles over the surreal idea that teenagers would
take on vigilante crimefighting careers and that adults would
supposedly endanger them. Now they’re whining over surreal dialogue
that the writers came up with, not the characters themselves. So it
doesn’t sound like anything you’ve ever heard? So what? Big deal.
That’s a fictional universe we’re talking about, dummy, not real
life. And if that’s how Mr. Smith feels, then how did he feel about
Rick’s radio-surveying cohorts volunteering to work as scouts for
the Avengers and keep tabs on the Hulk? I guess they should’ve all
been arrested and thrown in a dungeon for being altruistic? Again,
we see the face of a man who makes petty arguments over deliberately
surreal settings, instead of just limiting his arguments to how
specific real life issues like WW2 are depicted in a fictional
setting. Now for another letter by me, and another I’m not so fond
of today:
Dear Cap: For this letter, I thought of discussing
how the Avengers & Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man & The
X-Men live in situations, worlds and environments that are very
far removed from each other. About how the Avengers and the
Fantastic Four are almost, if not entirely, accepted by the
world ... and even the universe, while Spider-Man and The X-Men
by contrast are largely, and unjustly, despised. And I think
what I’m also trying to contemplate here is how and what would
the world think of both groups, the accepted and the despised,
if they were to work together, and help each other’s causes.
That is precisely what can come as interesting, given that
I can’t say that I’ve ever really seen them teaming up together
for real in ... public. Or trying to help each other’s causes.
And in the case of Spider-Man and The X-Men, their causes are
certainly in need of assistance of others.
When the Fantastic Four first began way back in late 1961,
they were accepted by the public when they presented themselves
to it. Of course, that was about two years before J. Jonah
Jameson, the publisher of the Daily Bugle, came along, and when
he did, well, he proved himself to be quite an opponent and a
journalistic challenge to almost every and any superbeing in the
Marvel Universe, including the Four. And in 1993, he built a
smear campaign against the Human Torch after the latter
accidentally burned down a high school to rescue a ladyfriend of
his, and got Johnny Storm briefly jailed for arson.
Okay, so of course, from that story description, we know
that if someone like Jameson can really warm up the ground under
our heroes feet, then even the FF aren’t totally accepted by
society. But nevertheless, unlike Spidey and The X-Men, they’ve
never been feared and hated as much as the aforementioned are.
But what really gets me curious is what would happen if
say, the Avengers and the FF were to try and help Spidey and the
mutants' causes. For characters like Captain America and Iron
Man, among others, do care about what hostility mutants suffer
through, don’t they? Of course. And even they wouldn’t want
someone like Senator Kelly being elected president, because who
knows? He could probably force them to turn against their best
friends. And while the Fantastic Four may not have been born
with their powers, the Richards’ son Franklin was, and so
they’ve got a relative who’s a mutant, and though some of his
more stronger powers have so far exhausted themselves, he’s
still got plenty of them. And the Avengers have also got several
members who’re mutants, most notably the Scarlet Witch.
What the Avengers and the FF have got to do, for example,
is go after all those devilish foes who work both under and
above the law to destroy the mutant race. Under the law, for
example, are the Friends of Humanity. And above the law is J.
Jonah Jameson of the Daily Bugle. I’m not sure just now, but if
Daredevil is more accepted by society than Spider-Man is, then
he too is a character who can battle such evil entities. And
also, he’s a lawyer, so he’d know what to do both in and out of
costume. As a lawyer, Matt Murdock could represent persecuted
mutants who’ve been attacked by hateful (humans), and in
costume, he could do battle with the crooks who’ve committed the
crimes against his clients.
And on the mutants' side of the matter, you know, they too
seem to be too “enclosed” in their battles against evil. Back in
the late '70s, they did battle with Count Nefaria, but today it
seems like too many of their foes are mutants, too. In an issue
of Generation X from last year, they broke into a juvenile
prison where a lot of teens were being unjustly held, and the
warden turned out to be a mutant too. And in 1997, I’m not sure
if I can remember correctly just now, but I think Bastion turned
out to be a mutant as well (“ah, yes, there was a time when I
was not unlike you.” he tells them after showing them his power
of reversing power polarities). And in one of the last issues of
Excalibur, there appeared a trio of aliens who were apparently
mutants too! While it's always OK to depict a lot of their foes
as mutants too, it’s still too self-enclosed, if that’s the
fitting way to describe it, and the writers have really got to
make an effort to start providing the X-Men with more villains
who aren’t authentic mutants. And, they’ve got to take a shot at
helping the Avengers on some of their causes too.
And on the Avengers’ side, well, even Captain America could
try to help mutants fight the anti-mutant agenda. He, too, is
someone who could try to help mutants, and one of the most
fitting at that. What the writers could do, for example, is
burst onto the scene when the FOH was menacing a young mutant,
and say “Watch it, you Fiends of Humanity! Get your filthy hands
off that poor mutant!” And he could whup them a good one with
his shield and his superhuman strength.
I’d probably be going out on a limb to suggest this, but
supposing the FOH was to try and menace Franklin Richards,
since, as noted earlier, he is most certainly born a mutant. And
even the other Foursome as well. That too could make for an
interesting story.
It’s also interesting to wonder what the public would think
of the FF and the Avengers if and whenever they were to work
side by side with Spidey and the X-Men. Three years ago,
Wolverine teamed up with Captain America to fight some crooks.
And Thor teamed up with Spider-Man to fight an emissary of the
Dark Gods who’d accidentally teleported to earth, and who spoke
in rhymes, which of course led to Spidey doing some of his own
amusing wisecracks. In fact, a pedestrian remarked that he knew
that Thor saved lives, “but -- Spider-Man?!?” One of those many
who bought J. Jonah Jameson’s baseless smears, of course.
And also in 1998, just an issue or two after Professor
Xavier was reunited with The X-Men, they penetrated a burning
hospital to rescue some endangered infants, and initially, the
police threatened to shoot them, but Storm convinced them to
stand down. I wonder what would happen if the Avengers or even
the FF had been with them to help with the rescue mission? If
any regular members of the public and the press had been there,
what would they think? “Are they crazy? The Avengers are working
with a bunch of criminals?!?” And of course, what would happen
if any of the really bad bunch at the Daily Bugle got coverage
of the whole incident? J. Jonah Jameson would no doubt want to
do everything he could to smear them for that. The Bugle’s
headlines could read: “Avengers collaborate with criminal mutant
organization, The X-Men!” And then, what would the public think?
Would they look upon the Earth’s Mightiest Heroes as
double-crossing freaks? Or could it help them to realize that
The X-Men are a trustworthy bunch and not crooks, as J. Jonah
Jameson and Senator Kelly would like them to think?
Years ago, I read reprints of the first few issues of
Spider-Man, and he tried to join the FF, who told him after a
scuffle that they don’t take in new members, and that their base
is not a sanctuary for wanted criminals, but later, they came to
realize that all those claims made by the Bugle were untrue, and
since then, they’ve teamed up with him many times.
And last year, after Psylocke and Archangel were attacked
by the Twisted Sisters, so, you know what could’ve been a good
response to the doctors and cops? “It’s hard to understand why
you despise us so much and not the Avengers.” Admittedly, I
suppose it may be going a bit far to suggest that Archangel give
a response like that to the authorities, but it could give them
something to think about.
To say the least, there’ve been many times when (worlds of
) the Fantastic Four & the Avengers, and Spider-Man &
The X-Men, have been (or seemed) very far removed from each
other. And that’s why Marvel has to start getting both sides
involved in helping each other’s causes and agendas. It could
lead to a lot of interesting possibilities.
I’ve also read all about the new JLA/Avengers crossover and
I eagerly await it, but you know what could also be a good idea?
If the JLA were to team up with The X-Men too. Now there’s
another brilliant idea that Marvel and DC could take up. That
too has some very good possibilities.
Oh, and I'm also delighted with the introduction of [name
withheld] column. I may have heard of it a few years ago, but
only vaguely. Now I'm beginning to find out a lot more about it.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the thoughts, Avi.
I'm on record as agreeing that I find it increasingly hard to
swallow, month after month, that the Marvel public adores some
superheroes so much (FF, Avengers), while utterly despising others
(Spider-Man, The X-Men). In a world where superheroes are a given,
why is Iron Man so beloved but Cyclops so loathed? When a new hero
appears -- say, Nova -- does the public withhold judgment until he
or she passes some sort of collectively-agreed-upon "mutant" test?
And, in any sort of rational analysis, would it matter if you were
born super-strong or got that way from cosmic rays? Really, what
difference would it make?
And, yes, I think it's very much in the interest of such groups as
the FF and the Avengers to address the mutant hysteria -- it's
only a matter of time until it spreads to all "enhanced" humans.
Not to mention that these folks are heroes, and helping the
unfortunate (read: mutants) is what they do. I loved it recently
-- I can't remember where -- when Reed Richards was called upon by
some subcommittee or other to testify about mutants, and he
delivered a passionate speech equating his family with mutants,
and demanding to be lumped together with them -- with tolerance
for all. Richards and Tony Stark and Captain America ought to be
stumping for civil rights for mutants at every opportunity.
Secondly, I'm also on record as believing that Professor X has got
to be the clumsiest public-relations guy on Earth, or just plain
crazy.
He's often compared with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. -- very well,
let's compare them:
Martin Luther King perceived a pervasive, societal injustice that
reduced some of his fellow men and women to second-class citizens.
At the risk of his own life -- which he eventually forfeited -- he
attacked this injustice by staging legal non-violent protests,
waging court battles and constantly bringing this injustice to the
forefront of public opinion so that (white) men and women of
conscience could not turn away. His rallying cry was "I Am A Man!"
-- saying, in effect, "We are equal!" In the end, men and women of
conscience embraced his cause, the injustice became high-profile
socially, and headway was made into the cancer eating away at the
heart of American society -- to the betterment of all. The battle
isn't won by any means, but the wheel of history has turned and
America will never be the same.
This man is a hero.
Charles Xavier perceived a pervasive, societal injustice that
reduced some of his fellow men and women to second-class citizens.
At the risk of his own life -- which he's lost a couple of times,
but he always comes back -- he dressed teenagers in masks and had
them lurk in the shadows as vigilantes, fanning the flames of
distrust and disdaining the very tools of a free society (the
media, the courts, public opinion) that would most help his cause.
His rallying cry is "Homo Superior!" -- in effect, "We are BETTER
than you!" His battle is going so poorly his world is on the verge
of a race war -- yet he hasn't changed his tactics.
This man is a nut.
Well, I had to get that off my chest. In short, I think that The
X-Men ought to work with the FF and Avengers at every opportunity.
In fact, I think they ought to sign up en masse with those groups,
as well as SHIELD, the armed forces and the local police --
blending into the infrastructure of the society they've sworn to
protect, instead of standing apart. It's probably too late for
that, given how mistrusted The X-Men are now. But they surely need
to come up with a new game plan -- the old one sure ain't working!
Say, wasn’t that Magneto’s rallying cry?
After all, Xavier thought his bunch should be integral with the rest
of society, whereas Magneto was the one who thought they should be
isolationists or world conquerors. And it sure ain’t Xavier’s fault
if he had lousy lines, but the scriptwriters.
In any case, he needs to find a new tack for his career – the
current one sure ain’t working!
Hi Cap: You mention in this week's Q&A a number
of comic-character girlfriends who have met their four-color
end. I believe this site may have been covered on the decks of
your ship before, but the fairly morbid "Women In Refrigerators"
(just typing that was a bit unsettling) site presents an
absurdly comprehensive list:
http://www.the-pantheon.net/wir/
Yup, that site has been mentioned before -- but I'll be glad to
mention it again! It's by Gail Simone of the very funny You'll All
Be Sorry online column, as well as a writer for The Simpsons
comics. It's worth a look!
Maybe once, but no longer. Simone stopped
being funny long ago, and while some of her writing efforts may be
worth a look, her politics are a serious problem.
Hi, Captain: Thank you so much for running my letter
about my favorite comic, Lucifer, in your latest CBG column. I'm
very flattered that you thought highly enough of it to print it
in its entirety.
Of course, it's always fun to see one's own name in print,
but what I really hope is that my letter (and your printing of
it) can inspire other readers to try Lucifer. Thanks for the
help!
I like all sorts of literature, from Faulkner to Chandler
to The American Scholar, and I can truly say that I find the
writing in Lucifer to be as imaginative, as clever, as gripping,
as anything I've read. Months after I read Issue #10, I'm still
marveling over the scheme that Mike Carey developed to have
Lucifer call the depressed man to come to him, and the way he
told it: The wonderful images of thousands of doors descending
into The Dreaming, Lucien's biting understanding of the
situation ("I'd say that someone is sending out an invitation
... someone who doesn't care about incurring our lord's
anger."), the clear and concise explanation of what was
happening through one question by the Raven ("Know what a fish
on a hook feels like, pal? You should.") and the device that
Lucifer used to call him, the sound of the crying baby that for
some reason that we don't know yet haunts the man. ("I didn't
manufacture the sound. I found it in the abyss of things past
and brought it here. So that you could hear it.")
What masterful storytelling! What imaginative plot devices!
What refined and gripping dialogue! In every issue we have
marvelous images, we have great supporting characters, we have
Lucifer scheming, always scheming, always four steps ahead of
everyone else in ways we just can't see through, we have
suspense and conflict as a constant undercurrent; and all this
is presented in such an understated way that the reader is left
always wanting more. This is storytelling at its finest. I could
write about a hundred other elements of the comic that I feel
are positively inspired, but if I'm not quite preaching to the
converted, I'm at least preaching to someone who knows my
sermon, so I'll hold off.
But I do have one more possible bit of insight. In Mike
Carey, I'm reminded of something I used to think about Neil
Gaiman: For the entire time when The Sandman was being
published, Neil Gaiman wrote only one comic (except for the two
Death miniseries), and therefore could devote his entire month
to writing one issue of one comic. I think the quality of the
writing clearly reflected the time and devotion he was able to
spend on it. I feel the same thing about Lucifer; this is the
only comic that Mike Carey writes, and the complexity and polish
of the writing shows this, I think. And, as Neil Gaiman once
said about a writer who bragged about how much he could write
while Neil only wrote one comic a month, everything Neil wrote
is still in print 10 years later, and nothing of the other
writer's is. I dearly hope we'll be able to say the same about
Mike Carey.
Again, thanks for the chance to play up my favorite comic.
I hope I can do it again sometime.
You just did!
While Mr. Smith never did. Over the years,
I’ve come to view Gaiman as overrated, because of what he did with
Lyta Hall in Sandman, writing her turning against Morpheus after she
thought he was responsible for her son Daniel’s disappearance, and
finally obliterating him with the Furies towards the end. I just
don’t see how that helps her as a character.
Dear Cap: Some of your fans -- those with a quirky
sense of humor, anyway -- might want to find a copy of How to Be
a Superhero, by Mark Leigh and Mike Lepine. Mine is at home
right now, otherwise I'd include an excerpt here. It's filled
with classic comic-book schtick, including the pros and cons of
a female vs. male sidekick. MUST read!
Thanks, […]! I'll have to check it out!
I’m skeptical the correspondent has a real
sense of humor, because of his ultra-leftist politics. He was such a
brainless dummy.
Dear Captain: I did an interview with Jim Starlin
last summer and -- as anyone who knows anything about Starlin
would -- I asked him about the Death of Captain Marvel graphic
novel.
Some backstory before this even. I read this probably about
three years after it came out. I'd heard about it and was told
over and over to read it. For a character I didn't have a huge
affection for, I was genuinely moved by the story. A man was
dying and had no recourse. Its inevitability chilled me. It was
also a time when dead when dead and the whole Jean Grey
resurrection hadn't been broached yet (more on that later).
So fast forward to last summer, asking the man responsible
about this seminal work. I ask him how it came about. He says
(paraphrasing and condensing here) that it was a mix of three
things:
His father had recently died of cancer and it was a form of
therapy.
Marvel said they would let him do Dreadstar as an Epic
comic if he did the Death of Captain Marvel.
Marvel was going to do it with or without him and he wanted
this to be a special thing instead of some cheap death with no
meaning.
Starlin went on to say that essentially they wanted to keep
the Captain Marvel name (a la Monica Rambeau, a.k.a. Photon),
but not Mar-vell. Starlin said that in what he did with the
character during his tenure on the book and subsequent stories
had made him far too "cosmic" and "complicated" for other
writers to effectively use him. He wasn't just a Spandex-clad
thug anymore. He was bigger than that. And no one knew how to
handle that.
I view the death of Colossus in the same vein.
See, look at what Claremont did with Piotr Rasputin from
the get-go. He made him a complicated character during a time
when detente was at an all-time high.
He was Russian but he was not a rabid Communist. He was
good-hearted and essentially devoid of politics. He was the
perfect person to act as a grounding agent for those full of
politics (Sunfire, Wolverine, Banshee, Cyclops).
He was the gentle giant, with the strength of 200 men, but
the heart of an artist. He was a full, complicated character
that was only realized by three writers that I can remember:
Claremont, Fabian Nicieza (brief but true) and Ann Nocenti.
I always felt that Colossus was given the brush-off far too
often. (Scott) Lobdell never got a feel for him because he
couldn't understand how to write him properly. Mainly because
Lobdell can't write consistent character treatments anyway, but
look what happened when he saw he couldn't. He shipped him off
to Asteroid M's Acolytes.
When they brought him back, he still was used as basically
a steel-plated thug. I always wondered about what he thought
about his country's political upheaval, why he never joined the
Soviet Super Soldiers, what he really thought of them. It felt
like the ball was dropped here. Peter became more like every
American I know, who wasn't born in Russia during a heavy time
of Communism. I'm not saying that we should start writing
political comics (because that about as exciting as Bob Dole
doing stand-up), but there has always been a history of popular
media of inserting political/social commentary within a good
story. It would have fleshed out his character more as well. For
example, what is his religion?
Instead of the multi-ethnic, diverse group we started out
with (a Kenyan, a Russian, an Irishman, a Canadian, a German, a
Jewish-American, a South African), we have a homogenous group of
superheroes with the trappings of ethnicity but no depth. The
closest thing I've seen to Ororo going back to her roots is in
Black Panther. Why does it have to be another book that writes
her better? She needs to go walkabout in Kenya again (I know
it's a term for Australians, but it's the closest equivalent I
know of).
There was an exploration we could have had through
Colossus, had someone with the chops taken the time to do it
properly. Instead, he became a plot point and a casualty.
As a contrast, look at what Claremont did to anticipate the
death of Phoenix. Over the course of 37 issues, we see the
build-up of power and the struggle to contain that within the
confines of human obsessions and passions. The final act was
human and emotional. It was the cap to a long story in which the
sacrifice was made apparent. It was either her death or the
universe.
I just don't see the justification in Colossus's death.
Shame on you, Marvel, for bowing to some sort of pressure
to kill off a character just because your writers aren't up to
snuff. I expect better of you.
Thanks for letting me rant. I feel better and go burn a
picture of Scott Lobdell in effigy.
Colossus? Which one was he, again?
Just kidding, [name withheld]. I have never felt much about the
character one way or the other -- primarily for the reason you
cited: He was never fully developed. They made him an artist --
oh, look, what an ironic contrast with his role as The X-Men's
strongman! -- and left it at that. We didn't know his religion. We
didn't know his politics. We didn't know what TV shows he liked.
This supposedly sensitive artist-type was shipped off,
implausibly, to join a bunch of terrorists when he became
inconvenient to the storyline. He was a steel-plated straw man --
a cipher.
Which is not a slam on the character -- there are no bad
characters, just bad writers. Personally, I feel that Colossus,
Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Banshee, Bishop and virtually all the male
X-Men outside of the outrageously popular Wolverine and the
inexplicably popular Gambit have gotten short shrift. Cyclops, for
example, has virtually no personality and has been written out
half a dozen times. They keep trying to ship Nightcrawler off to a
circus or a monastery or England. Banshee is an Irishman, so he
talks funny. Bishop is -- well, who the heck is Bishop, anyway?
On the other hand, the X-Women have gotten tons of "air time."
Psylocke's had three or four revamps, Storm's gone through about
six personality changes and a half-dozen romances (mostly with
villains), Jean Grey has had multiple storylines written around
her, Rogue is every X-writer's favorite character and I know WAY
more about Kitty Pryde than I ever wanted to.
This is not to say I don't want to see development of female
characters -- just that I want to see development of ALL
characters. Lazy, desperation writing -- if that's what the death
of Colossus was -- is an evil I've railed against before. Killing
a character because you can't figure out what to do with him (or
her, as in the Gwen Stacy Syndrome) should be something that a
writer avoids as a professional failure. I know when I read a
clumsy, problem-solving death, I consider it a failure on the part
of the writer -- and I bet I'm not alone.
But getting back to the original point, nothing was ever done with
Colossus. And now nothing ever will. Alas, poor Pyotr -- I knew
him, […].
Did he? He sure didn’t know Jean Loring
and Sue Dibny. Come to think of it, he didn’t know Karen Page or
Courtney Ross either.
And just because certain hobbies are left blank is no justification
for killing him, or any of the other characters I’ve cited either.
This is another example of his two-face hypocrisy on characters and
writers. Nor do I buy his alleged dislike of Harvey Pekar’s
time-wasting tripe seen on April 18, 2001:
Dear Captain, I love your column -- or columns I
should say. It disappoints me that you don't like American
Splendor. I'm not going to try to change your mind, and I agree
that Pekar does sometimes tend to come off as unpleasant in his
comics -- not boring, but unpleasant, like many of the most
famous characters in literature, like most of the people I see
in the course of the day, like we ourselves can be. I think
that's what I like about Pekar and American Splendor, the man's
honesty about what a petty and annoying person he can be. I find
it refreshing. It is, I think you'll agree, unusual.
By the way, now that I've got you on the line, why is it
that you don't like manga? I've never heard you come down on it
or say you don't like it, but those little black squares tell me
you don't read it. Why is that? There's some great stuff out
there and you're missing it. Don't you ever get tired of
superheroics?
I'm delighted by your letter, […], since it gives me the
opportunity to discuss a couple of things.
For example, the fact that you and I have differing opinions is
welcome; it should serve as fodder for others to offer their
comments as well. The comics industry ought to be big enough to
serve all interests, and I'm always interested in hearing from
those who like things that I don't. It's what makes horse races,
after all.
Speaking of things that don't interest me, I'm pleased to run your
defense of American Splendor. It IS unique, it IS honest, it IS
something that ought to be published. I simply don't care for it,
for the same reason expressed by [name withheld] last week: Pekar
doesn't seem like a guy I'd want to sit next to on a bus, much
less read his life story. While I appreciate the intellectual
honesty of American Splendor, it doesn't entertain or inform me --
and it often repels me.
Right or wrong, those are my criteria for anything I take the time
to read: entertainment or information. American Splendor doesn't
do it for me -- I don't find Pekar entertaining, and I'm not
interested in being informed about his insights. I'm glad that
American Splendor does it for you, and I encourage others who
think they MIGHT be entertained or informed by American Splendor
to take a peek. I don't consider my opinions to be the touchstone
of what ought or ought not to be published (or Alan Davis would be
drawing everything). What a boring world that would be for anybody
not named Andrew Smith.
As to manga, I have to be careful here, because I've been taken to
task by Japanese-comics fans before for sloppy writing. Manga,
apparently, refers to a specific sub-genre of Japanese comics, the
one involving big feet; big eyes; annoying secondary characters
drawn in cartoon fashion; and cannibal teeth, crossed eyes and
flushed cheeks drawn on someone who is angry.
Yes, those comics annoy me. When a character who heretofore has
been drawn in realistic fashion, drawn in a realistic world,
suddenly develops a "manga" face to tell me she/he is angry, it
jolts me right out of the story. Not only is it something I don't
care for esthetically, but I'm vaguely insulted as well. I don't
HAVE to be told someone's angry in such a clumsy manner in a tale
that's well told -- I'd have divined it myself. And those little
cartoon sidekicks just irritate the snot out of me -- they are
clearly there as story exposition (Greek chorus/comedy relief),
and not "real" people at all. Phooey, I say -- I want the writer
to give me a cohesive world view that tells a compelling,
plausible story. The little sidekick just seems like a cheesy
gimmick to cover up for inadequate storytelling skills.
OK, everybody push back from the keyboard. I'm not saying that
Japanese storytelling tricks ARE evidence of poor storytelling
skills, just that I INTERPRET them that way on some visceral,
lizard-brain level.
I understand that these things are visual shorthand in Japanese
comics, like speed lines, blurgits, or plewds in American comics.
(Speed lines are parallel lines following characters to show
motion; blurgits are repeated limbs to show swift, repetitive
action; plewds are those little sweat beads that jump off Beetle
Bailey's brow.) Every culture develops its own shorthand. Maybe
I'm just too old and set in my ways, but I just don't like the
Japanese ones ... and, frankly, I don't have to. I'm not remotely
an ethnocentrist, I'm not even slightly anti-Japanese, I'm not
condemning it, nor am I looking down my nose at those who do. It
just doesn't appeal to me -- probably because I learned how to
read comics at the metaphorical feet of Jack Kirby, and that's
what I'm used to, and that's what I like. But for whatever reason,
those visual tricks ruin the story for me, so I'm put off from
reading the story.
As to OTHER Japanese comics, that my Nipponophile readers assure
me are NOT manga, I like them just fine. Lone Wolf and Cub is so
good I've run out of superlatives. Akira deserves every accolade
it's received. Mai the Psychic Girl is outstanding, and I'd show
it to every teacher, librarian and pubescent girl in America,
except for the unfortunate Japanese fixation on pedophile
cheesecake. (Darn those gratuitous shower scenes!) Yes, those
series also fall back on Japanese visual shorthand here and there,
but not often and not enough that I can't overlook it.
Again, I'm not faulting anyone else for what they like or don't
like. I'm glad there are comics out there that I don't care for,
as that means that there are comics with a customer base outside
of me and my two friends. Diversity is in all ways healthy for an
organism, be it a species or an industry. It fosters competition,
it challenges the status quo, it pushes the envelope in how to
tell a tale. It is in all ways a very healthy thing that you and I
find different books intriguing.
But nobody has to like everything, and it all boils down to
opinions. Now you know my opinions, which are no more valid or
important than your own. And it's even better that you and I can
have a pleasant chat about it.
Now, on to some letters about "What's wrong with the comics
industry."
Those wrongs include him, I’m afraid.
Before we get to the rest, I want to note I’ve never seen him
actually being critical of Pekar’s leftism, which produced
head-shakers like “Not the Israel my Parents Promised me”. And look
who’s talking about pedophilia-style writing in manga! The same man
who saw nothing wrong with Identity Crisis and making light of
sexual assault. Hmm, why is it wrong when Japanese mangakas pull
smutty stunts but okay when American writers do the same? The most
nauseating thing about the rape page in the second IC issue was the
1st-person viewpoint panels, making it look almost like a video game
(think Doom and Quake with hands shown in front). And he made
absolutely no mention of that, vehemently refusing to stress why he
thought it was worth defending. I sure wouldn’t want to sit next to
somebody that dishonest on bus! Besides, he’s one of many people
who’ve been throwing the best things about comics under it.
Dear Cap: This is wonderful. Busiek's work in
Avengers and previously in Astro City show he is one of the best
writers in the business for this project. Fans have wanted this
JLA/Avengers for decades.
However, its too bad about the "Prestige Format." Nobody
in the industry seems to get it. Although the Consumer Price
Index has roughly quadrupled (four times the price) since 1967,
a standard comic issue has gone up by roughly 20 times the price
since then.
I certainly understand that some of this price increase
was necessary to retain creative talent (artists, writers, etc.,
in a competitive labor market) and that the creative people
deserved a larger share of the pie than they got in the '60s. I
also understand price increases that were proportional to the
number of pages included. My favorite memories of comics are
diving into 100-Page Super-Spectaculars at roughly 2-to-2.5
times the price of the standard-size comic.
However, over the last 10 years or so, was it really
necessary to print some of the best stories in various "prestige
formats" for anywhere from $5-20? Not only was the price
increase for "prestige" comics a bad thing, but it also seems to
me that it cheapened the experience of the subscribers to the
existing ongoing titles. For example, as much as I loved the
Avengers Forever series (and it was great, too), I couldn't help
feeling that there was a time that this would have appeared in
the regular Avengers title as a running story or in the Annuals,
etc. My case in point to this would be the classic Kree/Skrull
War running story from around Avengers #85-95 (I'm going by
memory, I may have the issues wrong). I can't help feeling that
having these great one-shot or limited stories is at the expense
of the quality of the stories in the existing running titles.
I'm sure there is a time and a place for limited series or
one-shots for stories that won't ever fit into existing titles,
but this is not the case today. Any excuse for a one-shot or
limited series title with "prestige" covers gets put out instead
of running it in a regular title.
I remember as a kid thinking that some day, I'll simply
subscribe to every title Marvel & DC put out when I make
"real money" as an adult engineer. Now that can't be done, even
if I were willing to shell out the bucks each week/month
(anywhere from $2-20-plus a title), I am loathe to hunt down
each and every one-shot and limited series that is the latest
"hot title/flavor of the month."
I often read that the comics industry is in trouble. I
can't help feeling that those who are in decision-making
positions in the comic business just don't get it. It's not so
much the demographics (there are more people being born every
day) , it's not so much the aging fanboy population (they now
make more money and can afford to but more issues), it's not so
much the 50-plus years of teenage and young-adult life our
"ageless" heroes have (we have to suspend belief to enjoy a good
superhero yarn anyhow), it's not so much the other 100 excuses
I've heard from those who don't get it.
The problem with the comics industry is:
More fluff and crappy, uninteresting stories than there
has ever been before
Impossibility of keeping up with events surrounding our
favorite characters due to difficulty keeping up with various
titles, one-shots and limited series and "special" events in
various "prestige formats."
Diluting existing titles with crappy stories, while the
best writing and art goes to "prestige format" limited events.
And many other OBVIOUS marketing problems that I've lost
patience to continue reciting in this e-mail.
Speaking of lost patience, I'm out of time, so I'll sign
off by apolgizing for ranting and raving so much, but it's hard
to see something that you love die because it's so mismanaged by
people trying to make comics into something they are not and
were never meant to be.
And a fine rant it is, […]!
I don't agree with all of your points, particularly the one about
"more crappy stories." SF writer Theodore Sturgeon famously said,
"Ninety percent of all published science fiction is crap." That
quote has been extrapolated, and I believe accurately, to "90
percent of all entertainment media is crap." That includes TV,
movies, novels, and, yes, comic books. I think that the first year
of the 21st century has pretty much the same percentage of crap as
any other year, given prevailing standards. And I really do
believe that standards are higher now than ever before. Ye gods,
y'all, have you ever actually tried to read a Golden Age
anthology? Once past the lead feature, by current standards most
Golden Age stories are virtually illiterate -- and let's not
discuss the amateurish art on most of those titles! I buy DC's
Golden Age Archives for the history, for nostalgia, for research
purposes, for sociological perspective and because I'm a
dyed-in-the-wool collector -- but not because I think they're
anywhere near as well done as today's comics or those of the
Silver Age. Compare, for example, the original Starman strip in
Adventure (which was actually pretty good by '40s standards) with
today's Starman series. The former was formulaic eyewash for
children, the latter virtual literature for adults.
But that's a minor quibble, because your anecdote about
"subscribing to everything when I make real money" really hit a
chord. That is a youthful ambition, and an adult disappointment,
that we share. (And since I started collecting in 1963-64 when
Marvel was only two or three years old, I also expected to have
complete runs of all Marvel Comics the minute I made enough money
to buy those expensive back issues. Why, Fantastic Four #1 was
going for $30 at the flea market in 1965! Good lord, who could
afford THAT? Sadly, the price of those comics spiralled up faster
than my income did, and I realize now I'll never own the 20-odd
'60s Marvels I'm missing.)
But getting back to your point, I remember distinctly when I felt
exactly as you did about characters being extrapolated out of
their "home" comics: January, 1989. It was at that point that I
made the decision that I could no longer afford to buy every
Marvel comic, and dropped my first title: Marvel Comics Presents.
I did this with the very depressing realization that things were
going to happen -- sometimes big things -- to some of my favorite
characters (like Hawkeye) that I simply would never know about. I
remember thinking how unfair it was that I had slavishly followed
Hawkeye through every issue of Avengers and Avengers West Coast
all those years -- but that the advent of a third title was just
too much for my wallet. Then came the floodtide of miniseries and
one-shots, most of which I skipped. In fact, for the next five
years (until my income jumped substantially), I was pretty choosy
about what to buy. As a result, I'm now pretty spotty answering
questions in my Q&A about events from 1989-1994 (even though
I've gone back and filled in most of those issues), which is often
embarrassing.
So I'm in full agreement with you about wanting such things as
Avengers Forever to appear in the regular title. Sometimes the
miniseries mania is absolutely infuriating -- like recently when
TWO Daredevil miniseries came out simultaneously, while the
"monthly" Daredevil title took a five-month hiatus! Those six
miniseries issues could easily have been called Daredevil #14-19.
Ditto for Iron Man: Bad Blood, which could easily have been
shoehorned into the continuity of the regular title. And ditto for
most of the pointless X-Men miniseries of recent years (excluding
X-Men: Children of the Atom), that were not only crummy stories
(X-Men: True Friends, anybody?) but, with 11 regular X-titles that
those stories could have fit into, they were clearly just attempts
to gouge the existing fan base.
On the other hand, I have no problem with JLA/Avengers or X-Men:
Children of the Atom being prestige efforts; they wouldn't fit it
into the "regular" books comfortably, they're special projects
that might attract non-regular readers, and the higher profit
margin might make it possible to sell them outside of comic-book
specialty stores -- which would be a good thing.
I do understand the reasoning on such things as Avengers Forever,
though -- a miniseries will sell better than the regular book
because of the lower numbering, and more expensive packaging means
a higher profit margin all the way around. And Marvel and DC are
publishing companies, in it to make money. If they stop making
money, they stop being in business.
Ah, well. So much for the dreams of childhood.
Oh, and some quick housekeeping stuff for those taking notes:
-- The Kree/Skrull War is generally considered to be Avengers
#89-97.
-- Prestige Format is a specific printing term, indicating a book
that is square-bound, glued instead of stiched, with glossy covers
of a certain weight. For the purposes of […]'s argument, I left
unedited his references to "prestige formats" to indicate any
glossy, high-quality format.
If prestige formats cost too much, I’ll
agree with the correspondent that’s bad. As for Mr. Smith’s take on
Starman, I highly disagree with his comparison of the Golden Age
Starman and its modern followup, because the latter was built on
some of the worst ideas to plague the modern age, like killing off
“minor” characters so casually, as happened in a 1998 Starman story
where the Mist’s daughter Nash slaughtered 3 minor JLA members.
Hi, Cap!
RANT MODE ON
Comics today are NOT more complex than comics of the
'Sixties (DC in particular) or even comics of the '70s and the
early '80s. More soap-opera-ish? To be sure (though the Marvel
Age started the trend). More violent? Definitely. More confusing
and contradictory? You betcha. Better written? Wake up and smell
the Dr. Martin's dye. That is a misconception promulgated by
modern readers who: A) haven't read them; B) think it's cool to
raze something older than they are; or C) are jealous because
they missed the glory days of comics and only have the sloppy
leftovers of the medium's twelfth hour.
Thankfully, there is a growing minority of readers who
didn't collect comics during the Silver Age (like us and people
we know) but rather discovered these classics through reprints
in the '70s, or in Marvel Masterworks and DC Archives. The
industry would have kids today believe that they are better off
reading Spider-Man version 10.2 than, say, a SA reprint of say
"The Amazing Story of Superman-Red and Superman-Blue!", but
that's just not so. Just as alcohol and tobacco company aim
their marketing strategies at kids to start the addiction early,
so do the major comic book companies.
LOOK KIDS! ANECDOTES! Once, back in the early '90s, I
remember a friend and I scanning disgustedly through a comics
rack in a grocery store. We were in shock as we flipped through
some of the goriest, most violent and insipid crap we had ever
seen. A 10-year-old boy next to us looked up and said: "Really?
This stuff is bad?" with the look of somebody struggling with
the truth: That an adult-run business would actually feed the
youth of the world anything less than the best. The boy put back
his copy of Spawn and picked up a Jughead Jones digest instead
with a relieved expression on his face.
Kids really do like kinder, appealing, fun things. Really.
And that includes (and rightly so) superheroes. Why deprive kids
(and adults) of a positive role model in a negative world? When
I was a kid in the '70s, the world didn't seem grim and gray,
but looking back I know it was. Kids today don't have the same
"privilege" of innocence by reading escapism because today the
escapism has more acts of violence than even their everyday
world does. And they'll bring that desensitization with them
into the adult world. Even their heroes are questionable:
Punisher, Venom, Spawn ...
I grew up watching reruns of George Reeves's Superman. He
showed you all the virtues of what it meant to be a hero. Who
honestly wants to let their kids see Nicolas (Gone in 60
Seconds) Cage as the Man of Steel? Does anybody out there even
think of the latest comic incarnation of Superman as hero? Or
even a social rebel, like the GA Superman? Face it, he's a
pop/movie star; an all-boy band without the band. Just because
he can strut around in a big red "S" he thinks he's got it made.
So does DC. Comic books may have shinier paper, but that's only
because they have a greater clay content in them.
It is SOOOOOOOOOO easy to come up with plot events that
drag on from one month to the next, without end. That's why soap
operas do it. It's a sign of amateur writing. It is far more
difficult to come up with one, self-contained story that stands
on its own, takes the reader on a roller-coaster ride and
challenges them to guess the outcome. For there should BE an
outcome to any story in order for it to be called a story. The
only thing that should continue from issue to issue is
characterization. That's something that needs time to subtly
change over a long period of time and due to events that happen
to the characters. If a single story/theme/message can't be
brought across in one or two issues, then there is no point in
presenting it in comic-book format in the first place. Go write
Mary Worth. If DC and Marvel are desperate for new readers, then
they should ditch the soap-opera approach to writing and present
kids with single-issue stories. Or better yet, reprint all the
good stuff and save themselves some money paying all those
hacks.
I remember once, back when I worked at a bookstore, asking
a young boy who was buying a Captain Kirk bookmark which of the
numerous Star Trek shows he preferred. Shyly, he admitted that
he liked the original series the best because it was "more fun
and action-packed." I told him that he had great taste and was
obviously a lad of heightened intelligence and perception. And
he left the store feeling better about not sharing the same
opinion as his friends, Tommy and Timmy.
We sincerely believe that if DC and Marvel re-released all
the Silver Age classics (like Spider-Man from Amazing Fantasy
#15 and Superman from Action # 239) and reprinted them all over
again, month to month at an AFFORDable price, we don't think
they'd be "laughed off the shelves" as they say. In fact, they
just might make the companies more money than they've made in a
good long while. Kids are smart and appreciate quality. They'll
understand why Clark Kent is using a typewriter instead of a
computer keyboard. They'll "get" why Tony Stark is only a
multi-millionaire and, therefore, not even as rich as Bill
Gates's lawn-care specialist. They'll clue in to why Matt
Murdock doesn't carry a cellular phone around when he's away
from the office. They'll even figure out why the President is a
womanizer named JFK and not, say, a womanizer named BC. They
will understand ALL of these "topical references" because
ultimately they don't matter a fetid pair of dingo's kidneys in
the face of good storytelling. These are the comics that will be
remembered and placed in museums 1,000 years from now. Modern
comics, like back issues of the National Enquirer, will have
long since been recycled into no-name brand papier hygienique
(those with a smattering of French will know the meaning of that
one).
Comics today aren't more advanced storywise (and they are
downright Palaeolithic in the drawing department), they are
simply more convoluted. The multi-issue crossover scheme of the
late '80s was devised to take more money from consumers but
eventually turned into the monster of chaos and lost them a
loyal readership forever. Why did DC create the Crisis on
Infinite Earths (BTW, there were barely a half-dozen) series
when today they've only resurrected the multi-Earth concept as
"Elseworlds"?
Recently, we skimmed through that new Superboy's Legion
with an open mind. Sigh! It's sad how DC's trying so hard to
"bring back" the feeling of the Silver Age when their material
is so steeped in cyber-punk/manga of the '90s. Reading the
Legion should NOT leave you feeling depressed; but that's
exactly how we'd describe comics today. They are trying to be
fun but the creators don't really know how to do that, since
they never read that growing up. The comics come across as
"quirky" at best, but with a feeling of despair permeating them.
Just for once, couldn't DC bring back the real Legion in the
form of reprints? Why must classics be redrawn and "updated"?
During the '70s, Marvel Tales offered older stories of
Spider-Man at the same time as the new ones were being produced
(and I always preferred the classics, not even knowing that they
WERE classics). What are the comic companies afraid of? Losing
their fan base? HEL-LO-O! It's already happening, guys! YOU'VE
GOT NOTHING TO LOSE AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN! They're sitting on a
royalty-free gold mine and $50 Archives only caters to the older
fans. They need to make these tales available to the general
populace.
Ideas from better days and better people are hashed and
re-hashed, baked at 400 degrees, deep-fried, served, scraped,
given to the dog, scraped, then nuked in a microwave the
following Thursday. And all in a pathetic attempt to re-create
the joy and creativity of the Marvel of the Silver Age. Plots
are combined and re-combined with others, totally out of the
original context they were presented in. In that way, comics
today are like a "movie adaptation," serving only to encapsulate
the character/concept in one easy-to-swallow, product-placed,
merchandised-to-the-hilt pill.
Take the Batman movies. By virtue of the medium, they
compress into two hours events that originally took decades to
tell and so create a warped version of the legend. Examples: The
Joker being revealed as the murderer of the Waynes (how
convenient!). Robin being substantially older than 10 years old
when HIS parents are killed by Two-Face (of all villains).
Throwing a psycho Catwoman and freakish Penguin into the mix for
no other reason than misplaced "star power." That's bad enough,
but this approach to "storytelling" eventually bled its way back
into the comic medium it swiped from.
The upcoming Spider-Man movie is following suit (with a
brand-new animated series to accompany this latest butchery of
the anti-hero). Apparently, the vociferous fans DID make some
dent on Raimi's ego, since he so "graciously" agreed to have the
character use web-shooters after all ... BUT in conjunction with
organic silk-spinning abilities! Now why in the name of naggin'
Aunt May would Petey go and do that?!? If he needs devices to
"control" his "power," then logically he shouldn't have that
power in the first place. In the amount of time it would take to
create, then get the hang of the shooters, he should've been
able to practice his control anyway! If it's (Ripley's Believe
it or Not-type) realism Raimi wants, then how the @#!*% could
Petey whip up a latex rubber-moulded, textured,
made-in-a-manufacturing-plant-type costume and then proceed to
get in and out of it in time to stop any villain?!? Face it, the
Sandman would be mixing it up with the beaches of Club Med and
spending his retirement in tax-free splendor before Peter could
even fuse the two halves of his "kewl" rubber mask together!
Realism, he says! Sheesh!
AN ASIDE: Personally, I always harboured the
theory/suspicion that Peter Parker's powers had nothing
whatsoever to do with the spider, but only due to the dose of
radiation that he (and half the crowd of onlookers, probably)
received. The spider only served to give him an "Modus
Operandi." I remember reading the first Handbook to the Marvel
Universe decades ago that explained Peter's wall-crawling
abilities as being (paraphrasing here from memory) "an exchange
of electrostatic charge between his body and the object he is
touching" and nothing whatsoever to do with "sticky fingers." I
thought this was a really good idea. It explained why Peter
doesn't have a spinneret gland in his butt, and, no matter how
eerie a spider may act sometimes, Mr. Eight Legs sure doesn't
have a "danger sense." No, sir ... not when the heel of my boot
is a-comin' down and mushin' his body into pulp, he don't.
We haven't heard much else regarding this movie, but we
wouldn't be surprised if ol' Doc Ock is next door getting fused
to his mechanical arms when Peter's spider is putting the
radioactive bite on him. We also wouldn't blink twice if the
Green Goblin throws Mary Jane Watson off the Brooklyn Bridge
instead of Gwen Stacy, if cigar-chompin' J.J.J. asks Miss Brant
to come into his office and take dictation from under his desk,
or even if ever-lovin' Aunt May is played by Judge Judy and is
revealed to be the Black freakin' Cat ("Come and give Auntie
another Frenchie, Petey")!
RANT MODE OFF (For now ... heh, heh, heh)
So what's your point, exactly? :)
Frankly, I have no intention of getting in the way of THAT rant! I
will rise to the defense of the current writers of the Super-books
-- Jeph Loeb, Joe Casey, Joe Kelly and Mark Schultz -- none of
whom are "hacks." And I will allow that the current Superman is
virtually a different character from the Silver Age version -- but
he is still a hero, and embodies the same qualities of "truth,
justice and the American way." I haven't a doubt that George
Reeves would approve.
Housekeeping:
-- Gwen was thrown off the George Washington Bridge, not the
Brooklyn Bridge.
-- Amazing Spider-Man Annual #1 explained that Spidey's sticking
power was due to tiny hooks in his fingers and toes, like on a
spider. Hey, if Stan said it, it's so -- no matter what some
Handbook-Writer-Come-Lately has to say.
-- J. Michael Straczynski's first issue of Amazing Spider-Man
(#30, on sale now), raises the very issue about the irradiated
spider and Spidey's powers that you do.
Oh, and I don't speak French, but I can readily guess what papier
hygienique is! And speaking of French, did you have to include
that Aunt May line? Ewwwwww!
Uh oh, I see England, I see France, I see
Smith sugarcoating hacks with his underpants! Loeb just so happens
to be a hack, and come to think of it, so is Casey. Kelly is – or
was – okay, but even he had some sad faults. Guess that makes
Schultz the only really talented writer on the list Smith gave. Say,
and what did Smith really think of JMS’s lethargic debut on Spidey,
which gave us a weak story where gun wielder turned out to be a
bullied youngster? What a sigh-inducer that was.
Hi, Cap! Marvel Comics recently held a news
conference that dealt with many things, including the
un-cancellation of Spider-Girl and print runs.
The following is an e-mail that I wrote to Marvel Comics
Editor-In-Chief, Joe Quesada. I present this as an open letter
to the industry, as well. It addresses the no-overprint policy
from Marvel ...
From the transcript from the recent MARVEL news conference:
Question: "How has the retailer reaction been to your
no-overprint policy and do you regard it as a success?"
Jemas: "It was sort of an IQ test for comic
retailers -- you can count the digits in their IQ based on
their enthusiastic response to the no-overprint. The smart
guys who like to make money are very happy with the increased
overall consumer interest and with the just general increase
in Marvel's quality that's really directly related to the
additional dough that we have to spend on top creators. And
then you have the other end of the spectrum, and they speak
for themselves pretty constantly, so I'll just leave it at
that."
Mr. Quesada:
Bill Jemas has shown himself to be impulsive, condescending
and provocative in the past. Sadly, such traits are not good for
public relations and are not very professional in the least.
There was no "IQ" test in regard to Marvel's "no-overprint"
policy. Marvel decided to stop overprints because it was not in
a financially-stable state to do so. Instead, Marvel chose to
place the burden, risk and headache on the retailers and dress
up the new policy as a method to acquire new readers. How does
one acquire more readers if one cannot offer more issues of the
comics the readers are interested in?
Mr. Quesada, you explained in several forums that Marvel's
new policy on print runs was also based on the fact that Marvel
had been destroying several thousand unsold comics. Peter David,
when apprised of this on his *** board, said this was
"nonsense." Mr. David, a former sales representative for Marvel
Comics in the 1980s, explained that such unsold comics were
repackaged and sold as the three-packs that used to be
distributed in department stores such as Wal-Mart. Others have
suggested that Marvel could've donated the unsold product to
charitable organizations and write the loss off. When this
suggestion was made to Tom Brevoort on his board he did not
respond. Regardless, there is a middle ground that Marvel
refuses to meet retailers on.
The latest Comics Retailer has a market report, as well as
an article by columnist Bill Hibbs, that shows that the majority
of comics retailers must be ranking pretty low in IQ by Bill
Jemas's estimate. The number of retailers that have been proven
to be knowledgeable in comic book retailing history and
therefore can see the flaws with Marvel's overprint policy is
staggering. For Bill Jemas to knock these retailers for their
valid concerns and criticisms is to show a lack of comprehension
himself, and arrogance. Well, to borrow from Hans Christian
Andersen, that Emperor is not wearing clothes.
You see, because many of us retailers have been involved in
this industry since childhood, and because we have chosen to
make it our livelihood, we are aware of many facets of the
history and machinations of the comics industry. So when Mr.
Jemas makes comments that comics retailers/historians cannot
"see the forest before(sic) the trees," he is revealing more
about his own lack of perspective than anyone else. The
knowledge of many comics retailers on comics history extends to
the history of the companies and the business as well as the
characters. I know of the distribution problems of the 1950s
that led to the industry's sorry state at that time as much as
anything to do with the Senate Hearings and the Comics Code. I
know of the state of the market in the 1970s that led to the DC
implosion and made the formation of the Direct Market a
necessity to keep the industry going. I know that a good part of
our problem today is that Marvel, DC and others practically
abandoned the newsstand market because the Direct Market's
no-returns policy meant those companies made a clearer profit,
never mind the fact that the newsstand cultivates and raises new
readers/fans.
Bill Jemas knows speculation. He is a product of Ron
Perlman's regime. He was a part of Fleer, a sports/trading card
manufacturer. Fleer did not fare too well under his hand. Yet,
he would publicly insult retailers who have a working knowledge
and understanding of the market because they challenge his
ideology and assertions that Marvel's overprint policy is sound.
Marvel, via Bill Jemas and possibly others, is hoping to
control supply and demand in an effort to maximize profits at
the expense of their business partners, the retailers. The
policy has already affected the customers. I have had damaged
comics that were not replaced due to Marvel's miscalculations.
Marvel has lost money in the way of lost potential customers and
it is either unaware, or apathetic.
As I said, there has to be a middle ground. I grant you,
Marvel is in a bad position and has to make some tough choices.
Still, cutting print runs to the bare bones is suicide, as
surely as vast overprinting could be. Marvel has to share in the
risk as well. Marvel is a company. It needs to buck up and
accept some responsibility. Bill Jemas and others can continue
to place their index fingers in their ears and spout, "Nyah,
nyah, we can't hear you ..." to critical retailers, but soon
they won't be able to block out the consequences.
If Marvel seriously thinks that a policy that keeps comics
out of the hands of more potential readers is a good thing than
it is the people that run Marvel who are in need of an IQ test.
Mr. Quesada, I understand that you believe a letter
delivered "snail mail" is worth 30 e-mails, so I will be sending
this letter out in that form, as well. I'd also like to know of
a way in which I may e-mail Bill Jemas directly. As a retailer
who buys from Marvel Comics and helps support that company, I
think it is only right that I'd be allowed to contact Mr. Jemas
with these concerns.
Thank you for your time. Sincerely,
[name withheld]
I didn't cover the Marvel conference call, [withheld], as […]
handled that detail for his Bulletin. But I'm appalled that Mr.
Jemas made the IQ remark. To paraphrase Peter David from a Marvel
analysis in one of his "But I Digress" columns, "If Marvel hasn't
offended every freelancer and retailer in America, it's not for
lack of trying."
I understand that Marvel is swimming in red ink, that the
beancounters are really in charge, and that there's enormous
pressure on Jemas and Quesada to turn things around -- and
quickly. I can only hope that Jemas's "IQ" comment and his earlier
enthusiasm for "collectibility" are born of that pressure. These
comments make no sense, as those policies have been tried in
previous years and proven incalculably disastrous.
Oh sure he’s appalled Jemas made those
remarks. He who failed to publicly criticize Jemas in his columns
doesn’t do much to raise level of confidence in his courage and
talent. And he wasn’t particularly critical of Quesada for the
catalyzing mess he orchestrated called Civil War, which precipitated
much of the crossover chaos now dominating superhero comics.
Dear Cap: While pondering the question "Why are less
kids, and more adults, reading comics today?", I couldn't help
but recall what made reading comics enjoyable when I was much
younger.
Much to the disappointment of both our parents and teachers
alike, my schoolmates were forever trading, and more
importantly, reading comics. Picture three or four pre-teens
carefully studying each panel on every page of a comic, offering
commentary on every illustration. Then, when the page is page is
turned ...WOW! (The new page reveals the hero or villain
suffering a tremendous blow.) Three or four kids jump to their
feet with excitement.
This was a typical day during recess once upon a time. Then
the trading began. I can't tell you how many time I traded
brand-new, glossy-cover comics for rags that featured my
favorite characters. I can't say that I didn't know a kid that
wouldn't say the same. This was long before comics were
"valuable collectibles." We had never worried about whether our
comics should be stored in polyurethane or mylar, and a back
board was something we threw a basketball at. Just about every
drug store and convenience store had a comic rack, and you could
generally sample the merchandise before making your 20-cent
"investment."
Today, each Wednesday I drive 15 minutes out of my way
(finding a drug or convenience store with comics is a rarity) to
a specialty shop. After reading my comics (although I've find
myself buying more and more "investments" that are never read) I
store them safely away (heaven forbid my kid should, gasp,
wrinkle or crease one of them) where the light of day will never
touch them.
I can't help but feel we older fans have taken away some of
the wonder that comics once had, and replaced it with sterile
antiques.
My childhood memories mirror yours, and I'm straining my brain to
remember when it all changed. I, too, traded comics as a pre-teen,
and even opened a "comics library" where I would loan comics to my
friends for a week (in exchange for something of theirs I wanted
to play with). I didn't worry overmuch about "damage" to my
comics.
Still, I was always a bit more careful than my peers with my
comics, but not because they were an investment. I just knew,
almost instinctively, that I wanted to have them forever to read
and re-read. And, sure enough, I re-read them so often that I can
describe from memory cover and plot for just about any Marvel
comic book from 1963 to 1967. (After '67 I became too busy with
life, and had too many comics, to regularly re-read them.)
When boxes and bags became available, I eagerly availed myself of
them -- but again, for my own reasons: I wanted an orderly system
for my burgeoning collection where I could find things quickly.
There was never a thought in my head about "investments."
And to this day, when kids are in the Comics Cave, I step aside
and let them dive in like porpoises, damaging what they may.
Comics are for reading and enjoying, not for putting in a museum.
I wince when they damage something -- but then I think, "So what?"
And when people ask me what my collection is worth, I respond
honestly that it doesn't matter -- why put a price on something
you never intend to sell?
No, I'm not going to take the blame for what's happened to comics,
and I don't think you should, either. I place the blame on those
who looked to comics as a source of Big Money instead of
entertainment: Speculators and dealers, and those who joyously
jumped on the bandwagon: Publishers. Greedheads, not readers.
Older fans at fault for the "investment" mentality? No, I don't
think so. We may play along, because the market has decreed that
we treat our comics with white gloves. We may even forbid our kids
to read our comics, because we've been brainwashed. But older fans
are the ones who've kept the industry alive through thick and
thin, for decades. If there's an industry at all, it's because of
die-hards like us, who buy Spider-Girl as readily as we do the
latest "hot" book, just because we like it. Who buy Amazing
Spider-Man even when it stinks, waiting for it to get better. Who
guarantee retailers and distributors a certain profit margin, no
matter how fickle the speculators and "investors" may be.
No, I don't think we older fans should take the blame. But I would
encourage you to let your kids wrinkle or crease a few of your
books. After the initial shock, I think you'll feel better for it.
I take no pleasure in saying this, but
some older fans may have to shoulder the blame right along with the
speculators per se in giving publishers the vibe they can get away
with publishing some of the worst drivel to come down the pike since
the 1990s and the market crash. That is, if they bought various
comics that were badly written, and, in the case of Rob Liefeld,
badly illustrated, then they have to shoulder some blame too. And no
pseudo-fan – the perfect description of Mr. Smith – who acts as an
enabler should be above criticism for doing so.
Dear Andrew Smith: I really enjoy your CBG column
"Dear Captain" and have nearly written on several prior
occasions to pan or praise, but what finally moved me was your
comments on Ed Brubaker's Deadenders reaching a ... well, a dead
end.
I can't recall ever reading a review (or a post-mortem )
which so closely reflected my own feelings regarding both the
creator and the creation. I had also seen the announcement of
Deadender's impending demise, I believe in Comic Shop News, but
I'm not sure. I felt exactly as you wrote. What a nice-sounding
guy, and what a thoroughly ugly and depressing comic. The only
subject that you didn't touch on was the art, which left me
numb. You are a better man than I, Cap'n, because I lasted only
one issue! I took a moment to reflect immediately after
finishing #1 and asked myself the simple question "Why would I
want to pick up #2?" I even gave my copy back to my local
comic-shop owner for one noble and one not-so-noble reason: to
let some other person follow the story right from #1, and
because I didn't want to have to load that one issue in my comic
database.
So it was somewhat reaffirming to me (and my sense of taste
) to see someone else had a little problem getting into this
series.
Keep up the good work!
Well, great minds think alike, […]! Actually, every time I stick
my neck out with one of those Canceled Comics Cavalcade pieces, I
half-expect someone whose favorite book I'm panning to chop it
right off. It's always a relief to hear that others feel the same
as I do. Thanks for writing!
I sure hope the correspondent feels
startled today at Mr. Smith’s embrace of another ugly and depressing
comic, Identity Crisis. As I may have mentioned before and will
again, a poster on CBR once said that after the miniseries
conclusion, he felt like he’d been raped along with Sue
Dearbon-Dibny. And after Smith gave it his full approval, I felt
sick to the stomach.
Dear Cap: I have yet to read one of their books, but
I do have Crux #1 on order and am looking forward to exploring
their universe a bit. A science fiction/fantasy-based comic-book
universe is intriguing, with the opportunity for lots of
colorful action and adventure, but without the same old,
slam-bang superheroics.
It is obvious they aren't making this up as they go along.
An awful lot of thought went into developing characters,
plotting blueprints and backstory that allowed CrossGen to drop
a full-blown comic-book line into stores in a brief period of
time. So who is the master plotter at CrossGen? And do you think
they have the guts to allow their characters to age in something
akin to real time? I agree with your past observation that
Marvel blew a tremendous opportunity by not continuing to age
their heroes. Whatever course they follow, at least CrossGen has
demonstrated that a publisher with the right plan storywise and
marketwise can succeed. Hopefully the established guys are
taking notes.
The master plotters, as I understand it, were Publisher and CEO
Mark Alessi and COO Gina M. Villa, with assists by Barbara Kesel
and Ron Marz (and subsequent kibitzing by the individual writers).
I don't know if the characters will age, but I assume so -- at
least to a degree.
As to your remark that "it is obvious they aren't making this up
as they go along," that reminds me of an anecdote, and gives me
the opportunity to expound beyond what the limited space I have in
my columns allows:
Somebody at work -- who has started picking up some CrossGen
titles thanks to one of my columns -- asked me if I "really"
thought CrossGen was that good. (The implication being, I guess,
that I was just sucking up or filling space.) The answer is an
unqualified "Yes."
There are a number of reasons why, but they all blend into one:
I'm impressed with CrossGen.
As you noted, they have plotted their whole "universe" out to the
Nth degree. That's not all that unusual; Malibu, Tekno*Comix, Dark
Horse's "World's Greatest Comics" line and Jim Shooter's various
stabs at owning his own company (Valiant/Broadway/Defiant) all did
the same thing -- and failed. The difference is that Mark Alessi
has shown himself to be a realistic businessman as well as a
comics fan: He didn't plan to make money for several years, and
set up his company to absorb losses for an extended period of
time.
That achieves a couple of things. For example, it gives his
creators room to breathe, since they don't have to hook an
audience immediately with an explosion on Page One of Issue One,
nor do they have to fall back on villain-of-the-month plotting to
assure an explosion on Page One of every issue. They can build
their stories slowly. (Mystic, for example, is just now hitting
its stride -- and I've enjoyed the low-key buildup.) Secondly, it
gives those same employees job security. In an industry comprised
almost entirely of freelancers living hand-to-mouth, that is a
blessed relief and allows those same creators more time to focus
on their work, since they're spending less time worrying about the
car note and taking extraneous hack jobs to meet expenses. (Does
anybody doubt that Ron Marz is doing the best work of his career?)
Secondly, those creators really are EMPLOYEES, not freelancers.
Again, this achieves a couple of things. First, there's the
financial security the creators enjoy of health insurance,
retirement pay -- and this is important -- profit sharing. In
addition to the increase in productivity and quality mentioned
above, it's a far cry from the work-for-hire, plantation mentality
prevalent elsewhere, and Ron Marz, for example, isn't hacking away
at Green Lantern, a character he doesn't own. Instead, Marz has a
stake in seeing CrossGen succeed -- he's got a piece of the pie,
and added incentive to do his best work without feeling like he's
being used. Secondly, it allows the creators to go to work daily
in a professional environment, resulting in not only professional
behavior (like meeting deadlines; Marvel & Image take note)
but healthy professional competition and cross-pollination of
ideas.
And as a working journalist, I'm here to tell you that CrossGen is
a godsend. I've worked in newspapers for 20 years, done my comics
column for 10, and I can't tell you how difficult it is to GIVE
comic books publicity. The major publishers suffer from some sort
of anal-cranial inversion where they FEAR the mainstream press and
are generally reluctant to -- or don't know how to -- cooperate
with non-fan-press reporters. CrossGen, by contrast, has an
in-house PR department and acts like a professional publisher
along the lines of Houghton-Mifflin or Random House. When I want
something from PR pro Ian Feller, I get it -- instantly, so I can
make my deadline. When I'm NOT looking for something, I find art
and promo material and review copies in my mailboxes anyway. That
gives me something handy to write about -- it's right on my desk
-- when I'm up against a deadline or stuck for an idea. Which is
how a normal publisher is supposed to act -- you know, like it's
actually interested in getting its product mentioned in my
newspaper. And when I call CrossGen's offices, and ask to speak to
Mark Waid or Ron Marz or Barbara Kesel, I GET them -- because
they're AT WORK, AT THE OFFICE, like normal professionals, and not
esconced in some alleged "studio" somewhere, impossible to reach.
You know, one good quote will prompt a journalist to file a story.
Absent that quote, he'll write about something else.
Finally, CrossGen's books are just darn good. Strong stories,
strong artwork. They're not necessarily going to pop your eyes out
-- they're pretty low-key -- but I like that. Instead of the
bombast and adolescent-male approach of Awesome or Chaos! or
"parts" of Image, they're trying to tell good stories that will
stand the test of time and appeal to all genders and ages --
cross-generational, you might say. And those stories are NOT
SUPERHERO stories. For those who have been whining that comic
books are too one-note to succeed, here's a company committed to
reaching out to the mainstream with new genres and types of
stories. And it's not the in-your-face, shock-for-shock's sake,
perverse sex and gratuitous violence that I suspect those people
ares talking about when they complain that comics are too
"limited" in subject matter.
So, yes, I really do like CrossGen, and for reasons that extend
far beyond the product itself. So enjoy Crux -- I've read the
first issue, and it falls in line with what I've said above, and
is an intelligent, fun read that I suspect will build over time
for a full-blooded, satisfying experience.
Incidentally, I should note here my disappointment with the
question posed me by the co-worker above. She's a
brand-spanking-new comics reader, twentysomething, female -- the
very definition of the hard-to-reach new reader -- who was drawn
into the field by seeing my column. But she was thinking about
dropping Meridian, which is why she buttonholed me about CrossGen.
It seems she had read some negative comments on Slush Factory or
some other peurile fanboy online site, and was feeling some
buyer's remorse. I asked her, "Do you like Meridian?" She said,
"Oh, yes, it's my favorite CrossGen title." So I asked her why on
Earth she'd drop her favorite title. "Well, you know, all these
other people who read a lot of comics say it's not any good ... "
Gah! So I said something like, "Do you really want to be guided in
what you read or don't read by some 15-year-old who thinks Spawn
is the greatest story ever told? Of course Slush Factory writers
don't like Meridian -- they're all typical superhero fans, with
not one female among 'em." She said, "Well, I figured they were
the experts ... " And I said, "Well, by that standard, I'm an
expert too, and I say you read what you like and ignore what other
people say."
So she's going to keep reading Meridian "for a while, anyway." But
what does that say about us, as fans? We rag the publishers for
their failings, while we (Slush Factory and Wizard and whatnot)
set up a wall between us "insiders" and new readers.
Food for thought, folks.
Not if it’s coming from him. Some of the
CG products Marz worked on might’ve been his better efforts, mainly
because they weren’t being done for DC and Marvel, where he went
along in complete lockstep. But he seems to have long abandoned even
that much by hinting sheer disinterest in what he’d worked on in the
early 2000s. I sure haven’t seen signs he cares about it now.
As for critics, I would just point out that even rank-and-file
readers can be right, more so than critics per se can, so while I’m
not saying the lady had to listen to them, she should still have
considered that critics aren’t always in the right.
Dear Captain: I've heard about Terry Moore's
Strangers in Paradise for some time now. I think I did something
unthinkable, however, in regards to my buying the title. I
dismissed it as a "chick comic with lesbian overtones" without
ever reading it. Don't ask where I got the impression; I
couldn't tell you.
So I was perusing my local shop and was looking at the
latest issue. It was pretty cool. There were spoofs abound of
famous strips, inserting Moore's characters into the strips. It
looked pretty good. So I set it down and figured I better start
from the beginning. I grabbed the TPB of the first three issues
(with extras) and went home to read it.
I was floored. The art and the writing were fabulous! It
really kept me reading more. Moore really has a way of drawing
you into just talking heads pages without resorting to
superheroics. Really, it's why (Brian Michael) Bendis is so good
and I see that Moore's come from the same school. Dialogue is
key. Anybody can write a car chase, but to write clear
characterization is truly a gift.
And I really can't say enough about the art. It's fluid and
fun. Moore has a real knack for capturing subtler emotions (like
the way Kevin Maguire does) in his faces. Also, his women are
full-bodied women, like the ones I tend to meet in everyday
life. Francine has curves and I can't remember the last time I
saw someone in comicdom draw a full-bodied women who's sexy
without her being green and muscled up to her eyeballs. All the
rest of them tend to have knockers that would tip them over due
to center-of-gravity problems and waists I could fit between my
thumb and forefinger.
Can't wait to check out the continuing saga in the
collected editions. Thought I'd share my joy (in) finding
something new.
Thanks for the SIP summary/review, [withheld] -- perhaps it will
induce others to try the series.
I, too, initially dismissed Strangers in Paradise as a "chick
comic with lesbian overtones." After years of reading glowing
reviews, though, I finally tried it two years back. And, y'know,
it IS a chick comic with lesbian overtones! But as you say,
Moore's facile skill makes it a fascinating read and I haven't
missed an issue since.
I sure hope the correspondent thinks
differently about Bendis ever since he showed his true face with
Avengers: Disassembled and even his Civil War entries. Bendis’ work
on X-Men has also been nothing short of horrific. His take on the
women in the title is particularly atrocious.
Dear Cap:
<<Boy, Crisis just looks like a worse idea every day,
doesn't it? -- Captain Comics>>
I have never had a big problem with the Crisis. My only
complaint with it was what was done with the JSA afterward (the
whole limbo thing), which has been corrected, and killing off
the Huntress (Helena Wayne). I always thought they should've
given her a different set of parents and kept her around,
instead of re-creating her from scratch. I also think that if
the writers had done a better job post-Crisis, a lot of this
after-Crisis mess would never have been made.
My chief complaint about Crisis is the rationale DC kept trotting
out to justify it. Their argument was that the multiple-Earths
scenario was too difficult for fans to follow. Horse-pucky, I say.
The comments by DC's writers and editors at the time readily
revealed the actual impetus for Crisis: They were tired of having
to explain it every time they had an Earth-Two guy meet an
Earth-One guy. That struck me then, and still does, as sheer
laziness -- or contempt for the audience. Did Alan Moore have any
trouble with that in Watchmen? Or Frank Miller in Dark Knight
Returns? Or Mark Waid in Kingdom Come? Alternate Earths are
nothing new to comics (and science-fiction) fans, and we readily
accept them. I personally never had any problem when, say, Bob
Haney had Earth-Two's Wildcat guest with the Earth-One Batman in
Brave and Bold with no explanation. I just accepted that the story
took place on Earth-Haney or somewhere, and read it for enjoyment
without breaking stride.
Of course, when Crisis became fait accompli, I cheerfully set
about learning the "new rules." But then, as you noted, subsequent
mishandling of the "new" DC Universe made things even more
complicated than before, and story parameters became more and more
restricted. (Witness the Hawkman debacle for examples of both.)
And doesn't the DCU post-Crisis seem ... a little smaller,
somehow? A little less grand, less filled with sensawunda? I dunno
-- maybe it's just me.
Ironically, even after DC went back to
parallel dimensions post-New 52, they still trashed any sense of
wonder that might’ve been left. But did Mr. Smith complain? Nope.
Dear Cap: First of all, I want to say thank you for
recommending Starman. I just picked up the first trade and I'm
now thoroughly hooked.
I also wanted to drop my two cents on a few things:
1) Trade Paperbacks: I think this is truly the way the
comic industry will stay alive, although unlike some I think
that there will always be a need for some monthly and bi-monthly
titles simply to give DC, Marvel, and anyone else an idea of
what to put out there.
The big frustration that I have -- and I will point the
finger directly at DC here -- is why isn't there more
advertising for the trades? I hear advertisements for books all
the time on the radio and I see them on billboards and other
static advertising media. So where's the ads for the latest
Preacher trade, or the latest JLA trade, Superman trade, Batman
trade, etc.? Heck, if that charlatan Mistress Cleo (my opinion)
can advertise to such a great extent on cable television, I
would hope that DC could at least afford a few short spots to
try to reach the non-comics fan, or the lapsed fan that isn't
even aware that trade paperbacks exist. Here's hoping that when
Dark Knight II comes out that DC puts a few advertising dollars
behind it.
2) Death of Colossus: I was a pretty big X-fan in the
mid-to-late '80s, and I can honestly tell you that I won't miss
him too much. I totally agree with you that his character was
never really explored. In fact, there's only a couple of things
I remember him for -- dumping Kitty Pryde, getting in a barroom
brawl with Juggernaut while Wolverine and Nightcrawler looked
on, and killing Riptide during the Fall of the Mutants storyline
-- and I forgot the fastball special.
I always wondered why more was never done with him,
particularly from a cultural standpoint. After all, he joined
the X-men during a period when the Cold War was running quite
strong, he did have a sensitive side that was really never
explained well, his sister was a demon who ruled limbo -- plenty
of good storytelling fodder. Still he came off like just another
strong guy. R.I.P. Piotr, but don't come back until they figure
out how to write you.
3) Movies: I briefly wanted to share my opinion about
comic-book movies and why I generally don't like them. I'll use
the upcoming Spider-Man movie as an example.
The first problem that I see is that these movies tend to
have way too high an emphasis on special effects and established
stars, and not enough emphasis put on developing a good script
with good characterization. I realize that a lot of people are
up in arms about the whole organic web-shooter issue. While I
agree with most people that it's silly to change the character
in that way, if Hollywood wants to do so they will. They put out
the money for the film, and they think they know what will get
people to plunk down $8-10.
Another problem is that comics are a static form of
sequential storytelling, whereas movies are more kinetic in
style and scope. Try taking almost any recent issue of any
recent comic book, and try to turn it into a two-hour movie that
most people can understand. It's very difficult to convert the
form to live action and retain whatever it is that makes the
comic work.
What I'd really love to see is more animated series like
Spawn (not that I watched it or liked it) or The Maxx
(outstanding), where the time exists to tell the story properly.
If somehow a Dark Knight Returns or a Watchmen project finally
gets made, this is the format I'd like to see it in.
4) Comic-book movie recommendations: Just one quick one. If
you haven't seen the Iron Giant, go rent it now. It's worth the
rental fee just for the exceptional animation.
Anyway, just wanted to share a few thoughts. Please keep up
the good work, because checking out your site is one of the
highlights of my day.
1) I agree that TPBs are the way to go, and I also agree that some
form of serial form must continue, if only to provide the ongoing
revenue to make the TPBs possible (as the industry is currently
constituted). I can't honestly answer why comics publishers don't
advertise outside of the comics themselves; that failure is
pandemic across the board and there's no need to single out DC.
Outside of a few TV commercials I remember during the G.I. Joe
cartoon run, comics publishers seem content to preach to the choir
(through house ads, Wizard, CBG, etc.). And I'm here to tell you
that it's only in the last several years that I've gotten much
cooperation from the major publishers vis-a-vis my newspaper
column -- and I was TRYING to give them free publicity! But, boy
howdy, did they sit up and take notice when I started the CBG
column. Did you know that DC has one PR person handling
"mainstream media," but almost half a dozen handling "fan press"?
And that Marvel doesn't even have an internal PR department, and
has only in recent years started using a PR firm? And don't get me
started on Image! From a business standpoint, that is virtual
suicide. It's inexplicable.
And I also agree that Mistress Cleo is a laughable fraud. What's
that accent she's trying to affect? Caribbean by way of Scotland?
I watch the commercials just for the humor value.
2) My main memories of Piotr are how whiney he got toward the end:
Boo-hoo, my sister's dead; boo-hoo, I'm disillusioned so I'm
joining the Acolytes; boo-hoo, Kitty's dating somebody else so I'm
going to throw a tantrum. Gee whiz. It's almost like the X-writers
decided that "sensitive artist" meant "big baby." Maybe it's from
dealing with freelance artists. :)
Incidentally, I forgot about Colossus killing Riptide and wringing
his hands about it. I also remember him killing Legion and
wringing his hands about it. Come to think of it, I seem to
remember several scenes of Colossus "reluctantly" killing
somebody. I wonder how many people he actually killed? If some
enterprising fan would like to assemble a list, perhaps we can
make a case for Colossus: Hidden serial killer.
3) It's clear that Hollywood is dying to cash in on comic-book
characters -- which bring an existing fan base and are custom-made
for action movies -- but don't have a clue what makes them work.
The first Batman movie was a tour de force, with exactly what you
describe: a good plot and solid characterization. And it was
enormously successful. But the powers that be drew the wrong
conclusions about what worked, and started emphasizing "action"
and supervillains and spectacle -- and the sequels rapidly
deteriorated into tour de farce. Characterization was replaced by
Joel Schumacher's rubber nipples and one-liners, and plot was
buried under heaps of supervillains, purple lights and
incomprehensible "action" scenes. Ditto the Superman franchise.
And let's not get started on Captain America, Dr. Strange, Tank
Girl, Doc Savage and all those other tongue-in-cheek clunkers.
4) Iron Giant brings tears to my eyes. Every time I see it. I kid
you not.
Some of those scenes where Colossus may
have killed people were probably from the 1990s when quality went
down the drain, and led to the rock-bottom story where he was
initially killed off. And the whiney tone was mostly Scott Lobdell’s
fault, but once again Smith goes the double-talk route and leaves
writers out of the picture.
As for serial formats, who says it can’t be done in TPBs proper?
That’s just what they miss completely, and in the latter’s case,
probably deliberately because he’s so jelly-spined. I may have said
before, but today, I don’t care for the Tim Burton Bat-film. And I’m
skeptical he really liked Iron Giant.
Dear Cap: You are very astute in your insight and
observations besides being kind of clever. You can write in a
pink tutu for all I care; keep up the good work.
Hmmm. You know, a tutu would be a lot more comfortable than this
Ethel Merman outfit. And, I must admit, I've got the legs for it.
And I'm only "kind of" clever? Ouch.
The lady correspondent writing that one
hopefully knows that he’s awful as can be today. He could write in a
blue tuxedo and he’d still be truly awful.
Hey Cap (and […]): Thanks a lot for the recent review
of The Avengers in "[...]" Like […], I've loved Alan Davis ever
since his run on Excalibur and was fairly satisfied that he
could follow my all-time favourite George Perez. However, when I
first heard that he and Kurt Busiek were going to make the
Avengers more pro-active, I became very nervous.
I remember other teams that have made the decision to be
more proactive. And I remember that none of them pulled it off.
The X-Men were one of the first teams to go pro-active. They
moved to Australia in an attempt to isolate themselves. From
there, they could strike the bad guys with impunity. They could
act instead of always reacting. So what happened? They only
entered conflicts after team members were abducted by Zaladane
in the Savage Land and the Magistrates of Genosha. Then one of
their own was corrupted by Sinister and N'Astirh and she became
the Goblin Queen. Then they were attacked in their own base by
Nanny. Then they were attacked in their own base by the Reavers.
Finally, the team gave up and decided to start all over again.
A couple of years later, the X-Men again decided to be more
pro-active. Cable, Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm agreed that the
X-Men had been reacting too much. It was time to monitor threats
and deal with them before they become a problem. It was time to
be proactive, and in Uncanny X-Men #273, they even put up a
globe that listed The Shadow King, the Reavers and the Hand much
like the Avengers' globe in issue 38.
So what happened? Nathan Christopher Summers was abducted
and infested with a techno-virus by Apocalypse. The entire team
of X-Men was kidnapped by Lila Cheney in order to help Deathbird
defeat a Professor Xavier imposter. Upon their return to Earth,
the X-Men went out of their way to free Muir Island where the
Shadow King had only captured Moira MacTaggert, Polaris,
Multiple Man, Strong Guy and Siryn. Once again, the pro-active
X-Men weren't very pro-active.
Not that long ago, Howard Mackie decided that X-Factor
needed to be more proactive. In a memorable storyline, the team
of Forge, Polaris, Mystique, Sabretooth, Wild Child and Shard
staged their own deaths in order to escape the restraint of
Bowser and the government's Hound program. Then, posing as
federal agents, they died a second time so that their former
base would be officially quarantined and they could work in
peace.
So what happened? In the very next storyline, Mystique blew
her cover! The Mistress of Disguise who kept several identities
active for years blew her cover!?! They let Multiple Man know
they were alive so that they could use him to keep track of the
Brotherhood. And then they got mixed up in a time -ravel story
in which some of Shard's former allies in the XSE ended up
inhabiting other people's bodies in the present. The pro-active
X-Factor were never pro-active.
DC has also had its fair share of teams try to be
pro-active. The second run of the Outsiders was supposed to
feature a new, pro-active approach. Come to think of it, Batman
started the first group of Outsiders because he felt that the
Justice League wasn't being pro-active enough in the war against
crime. Batman wasn't the last hero to tire of the JLA's
reactionary approach. The Martian Manhunter founded Justice
League Task Force in order to combat specific menaces. Captain
Atom founded Extreme Justice because the regular team wasn't
aggressive enough.
So what happened? Prince Brion's Markovia had no
counter-espionage to speak of and was invaded in the first story
arc of the new Outsiders. The Task Force was overhauled several
times until it finally became a training ground for younger and
inexperienced heroes instead of the task force it was meant to
be. Extreme Justice devolved into a superhero soap opera and
dealt with alien slave traders instead of alien invasions. None
succeeded in being pro-active.
In all the years, and through all the teams (with the
possible exception of Warren Ellis's Stormwatch/Authority), the
superteam has never successfully been proactive. I'm reminded of
a quote/paraphrase from The Last Avengers Story: "Superheroes
just sit around waiting for something to happen. Superheroes may
have virtue but supervillains have work ethic."
Now, I'm not sure why we've never had a successful
pro-active team. Maybe they're not very interesting. Having
advance warning of alien aggression would've spared us from DC's
"Invasion!" and Marvel's "Maximum Security" crossovers.
Pro-active teams would've seen the invaders coming and stopped
them somewhere near Pluto. Not much of a story. Not much to
write home about. Maybe we want our heroes to solve problems
more than to prevent them.
Maybe we don't even want a successful pro-active team. We
wouldn't like it if our heroes went about checking up on known
criminals. We'd think they were pushy jerks. We'd think they
were possibly trampling on inalienable civil rights. We like it
when cops are around to help clean up a highway accident but we
despise them for pulling us over for the reckless driving that
is likely to cause such highway accidents. Would we react the
same way to superheroes? Would we hold it against them for
trying to save us from ourselves?
I don't know the answer. All I know is that supposedly
pro-active teams were either never very pro-active or never very
popular.
Of course, I thought that Avengers was in capable hands.
Kurt Busiek had written some great character-driven stories in
Astro City. Maybe he could figure out a way to make a pro-active
team work. And to be fair, the last three issues weren't bad.
But the team is still reacting to the threat of Diablo. A
pro-active Avengers just might storm Latveria so that they could
drag Dr. Doom before a War Crimes Tribunal. A pro-active
Avengers just might try to track down the recently escaped War
Toy. A pro-active Avengers just might try to take down The
Taskmaster and The Punisher.
I was looking forward to a new approach to one of my
favourite titles. Maybe, just maybe, Kurt Busiek and Alan Davis
would be able to pull it off. But I was also just a little bit
nervous.
I don't mind a team that reacts. Just like the fire
department or the paramedics. I've really enjoyed the 37 issues
of the Avengers (and the 415 issues that preceded it). But I'm
not sure I want to see another "pro-active" team that isn't.
You raise some valid questions, […]. The one that piqued my
interest most was the idea that a truly pro-active team would
almost certainly be a bore, since they'd finesse most supervillain
schemes before they came to fruition. And who wants to read a book
about a bunch of super-powered working stiffs who take care of
problems before they become dramatic? Food for thought.
And thanks for your overview of "pro-active" teams. I had
forgotten there were so many, because, like you, my eyes glaze
over when I hear the term.
Maybe we’ve never had a successful
pro-active team because phonies like Mr. Smith are rejecting them,
as he did with Outsiders back in the mid-80s. Next comes another of
my letters:
Dear Cap: In the March 22 Q&A, you and [name
withheld] certainly brought forward an interesting discussion as
to why the comic-book companies didn’t try switching to a
regular magazine format earlier. Well, while advertising is
certainly a major stumbling block, they still should’ve tried
converting at least six years ago.
If advertisers aren’t interested though, then that
certainly is worrisome. But the companies shouldn’t give up
trying to get a hold of them.
But nevertheless, you’re quite right that many comic-book
readers don’t enjoy having ads in their comic books. Even I wish
that there’d be more story and less advertisements. And don’t
you just wish that comics were longer? I wish they could be as
long as 100 pages. In fact, even if there’s only as many as 22
pages of story, it still takes quite awhile to finish, because
there’s all these many panels and word/thought balloons to look
over. Still, that’s what TPBs are for, because there you don’t
have any ads to interfere with what you’re reading.
But comic-book companies should still give the magazine
format a try, and in DC’s case, since they’re owned by Time
Warner, they just might be able to get advertising, if
necessary.
And there are just so many ways in which to form a magazine
for many of their titles, and not just those that they own, but
even for those that belong to Milestone, WildStorm and Vertigo!
They could publish The Milestone Magazine, The WildStorm
Magazine, The Vertigo Magazine, with maybe even special sections
for miniserials that the companies publish all the time.
And not always are ads neccassary for publishing a
magazine. MS magazine, for example, if I’m correct, has spent
the last decade publishing without advertisements. Even the
Jewish affairs monthly Midstream doesn’t rely on advertisements,
and it’s almost entirely devoted to articles, reviews and
essays. This, of course, is what’s known as non-profit
publishing, I think, but the drawback is that it may not be so
easy to sell to a regular bookstore.
But it could still be an example that some of the
independent companies could try, such as Dark Horse. When they
first opened in 1985, their first magazine was Dark Horse
Presents, an anthology title. Who knows, maybe a company like
them could try out a non-profit approach to publishing.
There are some possible drawbacks to publishing comics in a
standard magazine format though: Supposing DC were to switch to
only a format like that, then all four current Superman titles
would probably have to be merged together into one single issue;
ditto the four current Batman titles, because there’d be no need
to go out and buy the other issues: They’d all be there for you
in one magazine. Still, there is something good in doing that:
if the comics have 22 or 24 panel pages, then in a magazine you
could have close to 90 pages put together!
Then, they could print the editorials in ways that are
similar to regular magazines. They could publish an “about this
month” column similar to Wladyslaw Pleszcnski’s introductory
section in the American Spectator. And, they could also put the
editorials such as the Bullpen Bulletins and the Watch This
Space at the beginning of the magazine. And, at the end of the
magazine, they could publish an illustration page just like what
the New Yorker’s currently got.
To say the least, there are many advantages and drawbacks
in switching to magazine format. But when you look at some of
the advantages, it could be worth a try.
Also no less important is how and where to advertise. If
the companies are to maintain successful sales, then they’ve got
to extend beyond just advertising in comics-related medium.
They’ve got to advertise also in major newspapers. And here are
a couple of marketing strategies that could be useful for the
comics companies:
Advertise mainly in places that have the most comic-book
stores. New York and Los Angeles are likely to have the most
stores, and to make sure they can maintain a successful
buisness, they’ve first got to make sure that they’re doing good
business in the places that have the most stores.
Advertise in more than just the comics-related medium
itself. Major newpapers like the Washington Post and the Los
Angeles Times are surely among the best places where it can be
done. In fact, even videogame magazines are probably a good
place to do so. And even the Village Voice, the New Yorker, and
the LA Weekly are surely also good places to advertise.
Advertise in many different places across the Internet, not
just the comics-related medium there either. Do it on Netscape,
Lycos, ***, Gannett, Scripps Howard, Newhouse News Service,
McClatchy company Web sites and even PC Magazine’s Web site.
Advertise where parents and kids alike are most likely to surf.
And most importantly, use ads where subscriptions are
offered. And give discounts for parents who’re looking for some
good stuff that their kids can enjoy.
Do you think that these are good marketing strategies that
I’ve brought up here? Who knows, they just might work. And if
the companies aren’t trying out such strategies for marketing,
they could! It’s always worth a try.
I don't pretend to know how all the beans are counted in the
comic-book biz, Avi, but it does seem like professional publishing
firms (as Marvel, DC, et al, purport to be) would take any number
of risks to get back into the newsstand market -- which is what
magazines would do for them.
I am aware that Time Warner could offer "package" advertising in a
multitude of its products, levering advertising from its magazines
or books into the comics -- giving DC a crack at that elusive
newsstand market and some extra revenue. Problem is, the way Time
Warner is currently constituted there is no mechanism for such a
"cross-company" effort. All the Time Warner branches are
independent entities, and that will only get more complicated with
Time Warner's merger to ***.
Still, Marvel is making an effort with its Ultimate Marvel
Magazine (all-reprint comics, with feature articles and games) and
Image is attempting the same with its Tomb Raider Magazine. No
doubt the whole industry is watching these experiments with
intense interest.
Boy, I sure wish I could say I was
impressed with this in retrospect…but I’m not. What I should really
have done was say that mainstream comics should make a jump to trade
paperbacks. It could help cut down on much of the crossover madness
that devoured superhero comics in the past decade.
On a side note, *** – a pretty crappy source themselves – later left
its affiliation with Time Warner, and it really doesn’t matter,
because their management is truly awful. So too in fact is TW’s. And
some of this following letter from April 25, 2001, is the same:
Dear Captain Comics: I'm glad I found your site
because I was totally confused by the two Captain Marvels (among
other things). I think it would be funny to pit Captain Marvel
against Captain Marvel in a crossover, but is that asking too
much? Too campy? I don't know anything about Marvel's Captain
Marvel, but DC's Captain Marvel strikes me as being kind of
silly.
Um, anyway, on the topic of sales being down, here's my
take as someone new to comics.
(This turned out to be a much longer rant than I intended,
so be forewarned)
DC is probably making more money today from WB cartoons
than selling comic books. It doesn't hurt that the Batman
cartoon of the mid-'90s was high quality (I though
Batman/Superman Adventures sucked, though). The Batman cartoon
is very accessible. I had seen old Batman live action reruns on
UHF as a kid. The live-action Batman was campy (& I liked
it), while the cartoon was cool. Of course the '90s Batman is
darker, but it's still a cartoon show -- with, as I said, very
good writing -- so it didn't delve into depressing, twisted
psychological territory that critics and artistes love but I
personally detest in my entertainment (sorry, but I've got
enough depression in my own life to read about someone else's
personal hell). So, what's the point, you're wondering.
Backing up a bit, before I started buying comics, I did
pick up a Simpsons Comics collection (available in a regular
bookstore), plus I used to read my friend's Life in Hell and Far
Side collections. I also knew all about Peter Parker from the
comic strip (I used to be an avid comic-strip reader, and I've
read up on the history of funnies -- probably still know more
about that than comic books). My grandparents had an extensive
collection of Pogo collections (truly one of the masters). My
sister bought some of the Animaniacs comics (we didn't have
allowances, so she couldn't get all of them). And then there was
manga (although I'll take an animated sub over manga any day). I
liked all of this stuff. My friends in high school were into
Sandman and I flipped through an issue once (but not too
carefully because I was acutely aware that I did not have the
money to buy Sandman every month). So I wasn't a comics tabula
rasa.
Oh yeah, and I subscribed to MAD.
My sojourn into buying comics started in August of last
year. I was bored, did not have reliable access to television,
and for the first time in my life, I had money, so I decided to
give comics a try. It has been both rewarding and frustrating.
My first instinct was to go for heroes I recognized. BIG
mistake. Spider-Man didn't seem much like the guy I remembered
from the funny pages. The Superman title I picked up sucked.
(Many, many months later I picked up Astro City and found what I
was looking for when I bought that Superman ... of course I had
neglected AC all that time because I was already burned by one
book with a flying cape on the cover, and no one was around at
the time to tell me any better). Batman was okay, but, I dunno,
maybe it's Bat Fatigue or something. Batman and Detective Comics
kind of confused me, plus there were various other spinoffs and
one-shots -- I mean, which one is "the" Batman? Huh? I have
picked up Batmans here and there when they were in, but I don't
get it regularly.
But if Batman was bad, X-Men was impossible. There's
Uncanny X-Men, Generation X, X-Man, Children of the Atom (the
one I started collecting -- I don't know if it was a miniseries
or what, but I can't find it now), et cetera. Now I hear they
are paring it down. Thank heaven.
Quality in most of the Marvel titles stinks, as I soon
found out (and as former comics fans warned me), and the only
Marvel titles I get now are Black Widow (painted -- yes!), Black
Panther (took a while to get into it, but it's starting to pay
off) and old copies of Sensational She-Hulk from the bargain
bin.
In fact, if I hadn't picked up The Secret History of the
Authority #1 on my first trip to the comic-book store, I
probably would not have been back.
DC and Marvel BLEW it. As I said before, I bought Simpsons
Comics and my sister got Animaniacs and we got what we wanted --
the same characters, viewpoint and humor we knew from the TV
shows. Okay, I know that sounds a little crass -- over the last
nine months I've come to prefer comics with story arcs and (a
little) history, et cetera, but if you want people who've seen
your TV shows or your movie to buy the freaking comic then put
out something that a non-comics-person can recognize, for crying
out loud! Manga does not seem to have this problem, so I don't
think it's anything inherent to comics or to a multi-media
entertainment empire, or what have you. Batman was the only
title that came CLOSE to meeting my expectations, although the
more I found out about the DC Universe (more on that below) the
less happy I was with Batman, too.
Anyway, as it turned out, I ended up absolutely hating The
Secret History of the Authority, but that was AFTER buying
Authority: Relentless (my very first
trade paperback purchase, excepting the Star Trek: Tests of
Courage TPB I got used during my Trekkie days ... but that's
another story) and then collecting a bunch of old StormWatch and
basically launching my comics-collecting career.
I got sick of Warren Ellis's stuff, but that was after
seeing that comics did not have to be the crappy stuff they had
for the kids to read at the dentist's office (Spider-Man vs.
Narcotics Man!). The next book I found that I actually liked
(after StormWatch) was Static. I am white, by the way, but I
identified more with Virgil than any other comic-book character
I had met until then (or since!). I liked StormWatch (although
my standards are getting higher now) and Static absolutely
ROCKS. Too bad it came out in '93 or '94 or something. I managed
to get a lot of issues at 33 cents a piece, which is kind of
sad, but good for me. Then I found Shadow Cabinet, which was
even BETTER.
I dunno, maybe it was the good writing and the fact that in
both cases the universe was pretty new, so a newbie wouldn't get
confused. Because when I started delving into DC, boy did I get
confused.
I heard a lot about JLA. So I picked up an issue. Right
away I didn't like it because I didn't like seeing Batman and
Superman in the same comic. I thought the super-team concept was
stupid, although I've since changed my mind. Anyway, I figured
since Metropolis and Gotham are both ciphers for New York, the
two don't really belong in the same universe. Oh, and Wonder
Woman's costume sucks.
The universe -- man. Well, I didn't know anything about the
universe problem then. I never imagined that DC had the sort of
continuity problems that make Voyager's retcons seem trivial.
But anyway, when you strip away the visceral reactions, the
bottom line was, I didn't understand what was going on. In the
first one I picked up, the JLA goes after "Bruce Wayne," who
turns out to be a White Martian. I was very confused because no
one in the JLA seemed to know that Bruce Wayne was Batman. This
seemed strange, since I didn't know squat about the JLA, but I
was vaguely aware that they had been around since the '60s or
something and in all that time, the rest of the JLA didn't know
his secret identity? Huh? Let me add that I didn't know anything
about Crisis on Infinite
Earths, or that a lot of the characters were second
generation, etc. I didn't really understand most of what
happened in the book and I was pretty dismayed. I picked up
another issue and it was full of characters I had never heard
of, talking about events that I knew nothing about -- and no,
there was no asterisk with a box explaining where any of that
came from. So I gave up on JLA.
Well, then I picked up JSA. I was won over by the art and
by Black Canary. I didn't care that I was totally confused. Some
of the characters (the Flash and Sentinel) were clearly older --
finally, something made sense, because even I, a non-comics fan,
knew that these characters had been around a LONG time. However,
this led to me getting more curious about the DCU. I picked up a
copy of JLA Secret Files and Origins #3. I figured it ought to
explain what I was missing in JLA (at least). Well guess what --
it just confused me more. It had some completely retconned (I
realize now) history of the JLA. I could look over into the
bargain bins and see JLA with the big players from the mid-'80s,
but the SFO was saying something entirely different. Plus Oracle
claims the JLA is 12 years old (or at least that's what I
THOUGHT she said -- it's ambiguous). That I KNEW wasn't true.
DC's Web site is no help either. Finally I had a burst of Clue
and looked up the Justice Society in Yahoo! and found a fan site
about it.
Look, why can't DC tell the story of the character from, I
dunno, the beginning? And what was the point of Crisis, anyway?
It killed off tons of characters, invalidated lots of old stuff,
and makes continuity almost impossible. I can't follow the
continuity of any character! I personally think the Golden Age
history is part of the appeal, not a hindrance to be chucked at
the first opportunity. (I'm into quirky stuff and a certain
amount of retro, and I guess I just prefer the whole "mystery
men" idea to super-powered superheroes. I think superheroes have
gotten too powerful, and that's part of the problem with the
genre). The whole Crisis universe flattening, and the way DC
handles it makes the DCU very, very confusing to a newbie,
unless you stick to Bat-books.
Case in point: Harley Quinn. I practically jumped up and
cheered when I saw it on the shelf. Harley is one of my favorite
animated Batman characters, and I thought it was a cool idea.
The comic was -- in drawing style, setting, mood, what-have-you
-- just like the show, so it was immediately accessible. The
writing was pretty good, and it's basically an all-around
entertaining book. And there are no stupid continuity problems,
no characters who walk on that you're supposed to recognize, but
don't (there were some visitors in #2 or #3, I forget, but the
writers did a decent job of letting you know who they were.
Actually, I think they did expect too much of this reader, but
it was a laudable attempt to bring together a bunch of female
villains -- although I really don't see suit-wearing LexCorp
employees hanging around with Harley, Poison Ivy and the like).
This is one DC book I actually ENJOY without having to get
confused and/or frustrated.
Another problem with JLA is the way there's always a
world-shattering crisis (probably a consequence of making the
super-team too powerful). It's overkill. Why should I care? I
think the writing suffers. It's like on Star Trek -- the first
time The Borg went after Earth, that was scary. In First
Contact, though, it seemed a bit pat (especially the convenient
out) and by Voyager it was like, Borg, Shmorg. Janeway and Tuvok
got assimilated and now they're back. The same thing happens if
JLA fights some apocalyptic force or other every month. You know
nothing will change -- or maybe they will kill someone off, for
stupid reasons, but them bring them back on some implausible
pretense (in Trek that would be the Tasha Yar Effect -- although
on Trek it happens a lot less often).
About the crises, now that I think about it, part of the
problem is the fact that the heroes exist in another reality.
Most other comics universes that I've seen put superheroes into
our world. Harbinger, Shadow Cabinet and StormWatch come to
mind. Of course there is usually some breaking point between the
realities (besides super-powers), but you don't have to know a
totally new geography, history, current events, physics, et
cetera. Maybe what I'm getting at is that the DCU has become
science fiction, while passing itself off as superheroes. I
would say your average comics reader in the Golden Age could
relate a lot better to The Spectre repelling a Nazi invasion of
England, fictional though it was, than I can relate to Lex
Luthor becoming president. (What's the subtext on THAT,
anyway?).
I don't want to argue that anything that confuses the
reader is BAD. Hey, I'm a Babylon 5 fan -- I can appreciate a
little mystery. But watching Batman did not prepare me for
finding out that Gotham had been laid waste. Come on! How is
anyone who has not been reading comics supposed to know that?
DCU has great characters and DC has good writers and
excellent artists (& they don't kill my eyes with excessive
black, yellow and purple like the flatscans at Image, either).
My DC pile is taller than any of my others. But DC is driving me
crazy!
And that, I think, is why their books don't sell.
By the way, I think I'll take the chance to dump on Image
-- underwhelming doesn't even begin to cut it. Oh yeah, and
since I happen to be female -- gay, but still female -- I don't
think much of gargantuan mammae. And ridiculous proportions. And
the stupid scanty garments. Although the fact that there are
losers buying Witchblade and Darkchylde makes me feel like less
of one. Dark Minds is the one Image title that's well written,
but why the hell does an android have boobs the size of bowling
balls? Top Cow's no better: I think the art on Rising Stars
sucks all around and the inker on Midnight Nation is almost
doing a good job, except that cleavage and crap starts creeping
onto Laurel every few issues (stop it ... please).
Well, this rant has gone on long enough, and I fear was not
very coherent. I only hope you get some of the reasons why I
found comics hard to get into. I'm not saying that every title
should be marketed for the masses either (I absolutely love the
current Spectre and the Ostrander/Mandrake version, and both
require some background), and I'm certainly not suggesting more
retconning to make things "simpler" (it doesn't). But I want
something I recognize. You would think that a popular TV show
would translate into comic-book sales. But the way things are
now, I am not at all surprised that they don't (it's strange,
because publishers never have trouble selling BOOKS after a hit
movie -- stop blaming comics' troubles on the medium!). And DC
has got to be more honest about the backstory. I don't want to
read a (freaking) retcon. I'm not stupid -- I know Batman first
appeared in the '30s, I know most of the time they pretend that
superheroes don't age (it's entertainment, not real life!), and
I realize there are going to be inconsistencies, so why can't
they just run through the real history, connected to real world
dates? Why do I have to find that on fan sites? This makes
absolutely no sense to me.
Meanwhile, Marvel puts out a horrible array of total junk
and good stuff, with no good way of picking between the two. Of
course, what's most likely to be seen in the convenience store
rack are the junky "kiddie" titles, which even kids find beneath
them.
There's all sorts of wonderful comics out there, but the
mainstream is not getting them. Maybe Rising Stars will pull in
more sci-fi fans, although from what I hear, a lot of people are
just going for the JMS books and not looking at anything else
(burned too many times, I'd guess)
So, that's my take, as I said, on why comics don't sell. If
DC and Marvel could only get a clue and market something for
their TV/movie fans, then maybe they could draw people into
comics in general. And DC has to be more open about character
history. Maybe startrek.com can pretend to be in the Trek
universe, but it doesn't have HALF of the problems of the DCU.
Passing off sloppy retcons as "secret files and origins" is just
frustrating for the reader -- which is the last thing they need.
I wish I could disseminate your letter to the Powers That Be
in the industry, [...] -- but we'll have to settle for use in my
various venues, starting with this Web site!
Whether I or publishers agree with your points -- and I do, for
the most part, but can't speak for publishers -- they represent at
least one person's view about why comics are so hard to get into,
even for those who are trying. Doubtless you're not alone, and
many others would probably have given up by now. So your letter is
instructional.
Having said that, let me answer what questions you asked and add
what information I can -- and then I expect others will have some
comments:
<<DC is probably making more money today from WB cartoons
than selling comic books.>>
That is unquestionably the case. Conventional wisdom has it that
Time Warner gives DC more or less a free hand up to a point (even
to losing money on various titles) in order to keep trademarks
alive to market the characters in other media where they'll make
oodles of cash. I don't have any hard statistics on this, but I'd
bet the Tim Burton Batman movie made more money in 1989 than all
of the Bat-titles did in the entire '80s.
On Sandman: Now that you're making more money, you might check out
the Sandman trade paperbacks, which DC keeps perpetually in print.
They might not be your cup of tea, but if they are -- oh, what fun
you're in for!
On MAD: As I've said before, I think MAD ought to be required
reading for all adolescents. It teaches disrespect for authority
and general cynicism that those in charge have a clue what they're
doing. Valuable lessons, I think!
<<Batman kind of confused me, plus there were various
other spinoffs and one-shots -- I mean, which one is "the"
Batman? Huh?>>
Since I read them all, that's a question I never thought about
before. I guess there isn't one. But Batman: Legends of the Dark
Knight tells stand-alone stories that aren't connected to ongoing
continuity, so if you're looking to buy one Bat-title, that might
the one to go for.
On X-Men: X-Men: Children of the Atom was indeed a six-issue
miniseries, which attempted to give the five original X-Men a
plausible and cohesive origin. (Their backstories had been told
only in a "Origins of the X-Men" backup series in the '60s The
X-Men title, and those stories were, frankly, stupid. They were
never meant to stand the test of time, and CotA was much better.)
You'll be pleased to know that the purpose of the May X-revamp is
to bring the comics more in line with the movie -- which addresses
your issue of the comics publishing what non-fans would expect to
see when they pick up the books. There will also be some huge
X-perimentation -- some of which will doubtless not work -- but at
least they're dumping the convoluted, intimidating, overpopulated
continuity of the Claremont/Lobdell years, which even most X-fans
had tired of. Marvel was quite aware they had a problem there, and
this is their solution. Incidentally, you might also want to check
out Ultimate X-Men, which is CotA revisited, in that it starts the
merry mutants at square one, beginning in the present day.
On Marvel: Most of Marvel's best comics are printed under the
"Marvel Knights" imprint, including the two Black Widow miniseries
(if you missed either, they're available in trade paperbacks and I
highly recommend them) and Black Panther at one time. Since you're
a J. Michael Straczynski fan, I suggest you check out the latest
issue of Amazing Spider-Man -- JMS is picking up the writing
reins, and ASM #30 was the first issue of that title I've really
enjoyed since probably the '70s. Peter Parker: Spider-Man has also
been on the uptick since Paul Jenkins began as writer. Ultimate
Spider-Man is a terrific, stand-alone book also, and you might
want to check it out. And I also recommend Captain Marvel, which
isn't under the "Knights" imprint but is a very funny, very human
book. Those are the Marvel titles that leap to mind as being worth
your $2.99.
<<Oh, and Wonder Woman's costume sucks.>>
Heh. Check out Silly Super-Togs for another reader's tirade on
that. Frankly, it always struck me as odd that a character that
was originally meant as a role model for young girls dresses like
a Victoria's Secret model. Of course, being a heterosexual male,
I'd be hypocritical if I didn't note that I find Adam Hughes's
covers an eyeful. So I guess we can readily identify WW's ACTUAL
target market, eh?
<<I ended up absolutely hating The Secret History of The
Authority.>>
As it happened, so did I. You didn't give your reasons, but mine
were these: I was, in fact, a newbie to the WildStorm universe
when The Authority began, and was looking forward to Secret
History to clue me in on who half of these characters were. It did
no such thing, and instead seemed largely a Warren Ellis in-joke
to see how many sexual liaisons he could arrange for Jenny Sparks
(and the odder, the better). I really liked the Sparks character
in The Authority -- and enjoyed her sexual frankness -- but found
her to be little more than a drunken slut in Secret History.
Nothing wrong with sluts -- I've dated a few -- but if I wanted
soft-core p*** I could do better. (For the record, I'm happily
married and not looking for p*** at all -- I'm just speaking in
general!)
<<Static absolutely ROCKS.>>
I absolutely agree. The fact that a white heterosexual male and a
white gay female both identify with a black teenager says GOOD
WRITING in all capital letters. Currently there's a four-issue
Static Shock miniseries (which has come out, unfortunately,
somewhat sporadically), testing the waters for a new series. I am,
of course, supporting it, and I hope you are too.
<<I dunno, maybe it was the good writing and the fact
that in both cases the universe was pretty new, so a newbie
wouldn't get confused.>>
This is where I recommend CrossGeneration Comics, where you can
get in on the ground floor of a "universe" that doesn't require
you to buy more than one title to understand what's going on. My
favorites are Mystic, Meridian and Scion -- your mileage may vary.
But the writing is outstanding, and CrossGen doesn't even
genuflect to the superhero genre -- it's all Dragonriders of
Pern-style fantasy and/or hard science fiction.
<<This seemed strange, since I didn't know squat about
the JLA, but I was vaguely aware that they had been around since
the '60s or something and in all that time, the rest of the JLA
didn't know his secret identity? Huh?>>
Pre-1986, all the JLAers knew each others' secret IDs -- it was a
very friendly club. Post-Crisis, Batman didn't join the JLA until
late in its run (under unrevealed circumstances) and the latest
version of the team had everybody keeping their IDs private.
You'll be pleased to note that a recent Mark Waid-written JLA
storyline has corrected that (read JLA #50 for more), and now even
Batman says "There are no secrets in the JLA" (to Lois Lane,
Superman #168).
On Black Canary: I'm a BC fan too, so I have to recommend Birds of
Prey. A caveat: The series has taken a serious turn toward
superheroics, as opposed to earlier issues which focused on the
peculiar (they had never met in person), multi-layer friendship
between Canary and Oracle. I really enjoyed their interaction, so
the recent emphasis on superheroics (probably necessary for sales)
has left me cold. But the earlier issues are top-notch.
<<Some of the characters (the Flash and Sentinel) were
clearly older -- finally, something made sense, because even I,
a non-comics fan, knew that these characters had been around a
LONG time.>>
I'm on record as finding the generations-long history of the DCU
as being part of its appeal. I don't want to read comics where
EVERYBODY is twentysomething. It loses any verisimilitude, and
having older, grandfatherly superheroes dispensing (sometimes
unwanted) advice is more in line with the real world. The
Sentinel/Star-Spangled Kid story in JSA Secret Files #1 was a hoot
-- Sentinel was all pompous and stuffed-shirt about the grand
history of the JSA, and the Kid was -- well, a kid, all smart
mouth and "who cares" and bored as hell. In the end, though, they
found common ground, which made it heart-warming.
<<Oracle claims the JLA is 12 years old (or at least
that's what I THOUGHT she said -- it's ambiguous).>>
The "modern" DCU is officially ALWAYS 12 years old -- that is, the
Silver Age began 12 years ago (with the advent of Superman,
Batman, Green Arrow, Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, et al). This is a
post-Crisis conceit. Marvel has followed suit; Fantastic Four #1
happened 10 years ago, and always WILL have happened 10 years ago.
It's their solution to the characters not aging -- and it wouldn't
have been MY solution, but there it is.
<<And what was the point of Crisis, anyway? It killed off
tons of characters, invalidated lots of old stuff, and makes
continuity almost impossible. I can't follow the continuity of
any character! I personally think the Golden Age history is part
of the appeal, not a hindrance to be chucked at the first
opportunity. >>
I couldn't agree with you more. The more I think about Crisis, the
worse a decision it seems to me. It managed to retcon away DC's
primary appeal -- its rich history. It made everything "smaller"
and reduced the sensawunda that drew me to these four-color
pamphlets in the first place. And the point, since you asked, was
to make life easier for the writers -- not the readers, as they
kept hypocritically maintaining. That's another complaint: I don't
like being lied to, and I don't care for the insinuation that I'm
too dumb to keep up with alternate worlds/characters. But we're
stuck with it now, so I try to be realistic and enjoy things as
they stand.
On Image: I'm in agreement. Even as a heterosexual male, I find
the massive mammaries (and massive guns) stupid and insulting. The
bent-at-the-waist, please-do-me-from-behind poses the women assume
I find infuriating -- no woman would really stand like that in
public, and as I said earlier, if I wanted p*** I could do better.
(Of course, you could make the argument that they stand like that
because their breasts make them top-heavy!) I passed on Dark Minds
at first glance for the very reason you cite: There's no reason
for an artificial woman to have silicon injections, so I dismissed
the book as one whose primary purpose was to appeal to sexually
frustrated teenagers who aren't old enough to buy Playboy. That
might be unfair, but Image has given me no reason to sample a
title that looks like the Fathom Swimsuit Special.
On the other hand, the really egregious Image books seem to be
largely the product of Top Cow, Todd McFarlane Productions and
some of the smaller studios and I avoid them like the plague.
Image Central is very deliberately moving away from that approach,
and I highly recommend Age of Bronze, The Red Star and Powers.
You've already discovered Joe's Comics (by Straczynski), which are
strongly written -- although I agree that the art on Rising Stars
leaves me cold (and sometimes confused as to who's who). I hadn't
noticed the creeping breast enlargement on Laurel in Midnight
Nation, and in fact was mildly pleased that she was -- for comics
-- relatively flat-chested and realistically proportioned from the
get-go. But I have noticed that a character that I assume is
probably gay is inexplicably wearing a thong under her jeans. From
my experience, thongs on women (gay or straight) is an invented
male fantasy -- I haven't met a woman yet who wears them on a
daily basis. (My wife disgustedly eschews them altogether,
preferring to be naked, which gets no argument from me.) Either
way, I accept Laurel's depiction (I imagine it's considered
necessary to keep sales up), as I do Rising Stars' inadequate art,
because the stories are so darn good.
On Star Trek: I also found Denise Crosby's return to Next
Generation implausible, confusing and ridiculous. What was she
supposed to be? The daughter of Tasha Yar and a Romulan rapist
from a future timeline that didn't exist? Or something? Gah! Just
an excuse for Crosby to get back on the show when her movie career
tanked. And I, too, have tired of The Borg. Like Galactus, they
were terrifying when introduced, since nobody had ever defeated
them. Now Voyager defeats them on a weekly basis, and their
threat, like Galactus's, has diminished to invisibility.
Whew! That was a workout! Thanks again for the letter!
But no thanks to him for his dishonesty of
the weird kind. Funny why he’s weary of the Borg when he follows
their MO almost to the letter in his daytime profession.
It’s kind of odd DC would keep the 1989-96 Sandman series, of all
things, in print, because unlike some others, I don’t see what’s the
big deal about a series that later depicted Lyta Hall going berserk
and wiping out Morpheus because he said he wanted possession of her
child, Daniel. And that too was annoying.
I’m also unimpressed with Mr. Smith’s stand on T&A, if not guns,
at Image or elsewhere. He completely fails to grasp the concept of
escapism, and besides, even from a visual perspective, that’s still
peanuts compared to the questions whether the story is written
interestingly and absorbingly. Personally, I don’t consider Top
Cow’s creations in themselves to be the worst Image offers. I do
think that Rob Liefeld’s productions overshadowed some of the better
stuff, that’s for sure.
And, as for the correspondent, a real pity we have here an early
example of a "social justice warrior" who must think that sexy
costumes are shameful creations and the root cause of all evil. I
guess that means even swimsuit models for Vogue and Women's Day are
criminals? Sigh.
Dear Cap: Good point (in the 4/19 Mailbag). The old
stories have a nostalgic and historical appeal that does make me
more forgiving about the story. So yeah, I'll have to concede
the point from you and […].
On the business argument, however, I still don't buy it. I
totally agree that the comics are a business, and as such they
are in business to make as much money as possible (heck in the
case of publicly owned companies, the have an ethical OBLIGATION
to make as much money as possible to increase shareholder
value/wealth). The core of my argument is that the empty suits
that have apparently taken over the industry have ruined the
enterprise. They had a business that could have been a cash cow
for many more decades. They had a business that had a customer
base that was almost fanatical in their product loyalty and
repeat business habits. That customer base included many
"educated/highly employed" so the prospect was they would simply
continue to have more money to spend and become more affluent.
Before they decided to raise prices to more than $2 an
issue and have $20 "special event" comics, they took the ability
away for new kid customers to enter the mix without getting
major backing from their parents. I remember in my day, I could
afford a couple of issues a week and still had more than half of
my meager allowance remaining. Because new young readers could
not pick the habit on their own (the high prices meant parents
had to give consent, approval and financial support to a new
comic reader/collector's hobby), the ability to continue
restocking the customer base with new young readers was
hindered/curtailed. The other events and ideas that were
mentioned in my previous e-mail, have ultimately (it took some
time) served to undermine the golden goose the comics industry
had with the "fanatically loyal repeat business" cash cow they
had.
Although the "special issue" ideas must have been more
profitable in the short term. They have ultimately served to
release more and more would-have-been lifetime
subscribers/collectors from their hobby/obsession. If the comics
industry wanted to make TV shows, statuettes and etc. for
increased profit, no harm would have been done to their mature
"cash cow" business. When they started to mess with the core,
base, cash cow is when they began to kill the golden goose.
Everything would have continued had they not tinkered with the
core business (long-running comics series) with their special
"quick buck" ideas. My argument is that in their short-term
search for the quick buck, they have begun to destroy the
long-term stream of business they could have enjoyed for many
decades to come.
Many times when successful businesses try to become
something they are not, they begin to fail. My core contention
is that there are some empty suits in the world that ruin
successful business by trying to make them something they are
not (usually because they are driven by the belief that if they
don't grow at some specified rate they are failing). As long as
a business is profitable, it can endure and provide for its
owners even if its growth rate is modest.
Some analogies I would make are what if corner hot-dog
vendors tried to sell champagne and caviar? What if Major League
Baseball tried to inject WWF-style entertainment (there would be
a short-term increase in profits and growth, but they would
ultimately kill the core "fanatic" loyal business). The "New
Coke" campaign was another example of this failed business
strategy. There are certainly some "grow or die" businesses
(pyramid schemes for one, ha, ha!), but not all businesses are
the same and will have the same results with the same business
models applied.
The bottom line is that I'm sad that the hobby I love is
slowly being killed by semi-competent, semi-clued empty suits in
the decision-making roles for the industry.
Before I start agreeing with you all over the place, […], I think
you're laboring under a misapprehension on a major point. Please
bear with me here, as I'm not arguing with you so much as trying
to inform:
Comic-book companies didn't "decide" to raise prices from 20 cents
to $2. They -- honestly and truly -- had no choice. The publishers
are making no greater a profit margin (adjusted for inflation) on
the $2 version than they were making on the 20-cent copy -- and
selling quite a bit fewer of them. Factors that didn't exist in
the Silver Age account for that $2, including a huge increase in
the amount paid creators (which nobody is saying is a bad thing,
since creators were barely paid a living wage before the '80s) and
an exponential rise in the cost of paper.
One of the major bottom-line problems in the industry is the
elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about: The 32-page,
four-color pamphlet is no longer economically viable. Period. Due
to spiralling production costs (primarily creator costs and paper
costs) it costs more to make it than it's worth for the consumer
to buy (i.e., the publishers have to charge more than the product
is worth to us). In other words: Your complaint exactly, but not
for the reasons you cite. Using the inflation chart, comic books
shouldn't cost more than about a buck -- and I bet most of us
wouldn't blink an eye at that. But comics have, perforce, had to
raise their prices beyond the threshold that we're willing to
comfortably pay. And believe me, publishers really, really, really
didn't want to do that -- but had to, to achieve any kind of
profit margin at all.
Secondly, per-unit sales are in the toilet, so the publishers are
getting by with selling more titles at 100,000 copies each instead
of fewer titles at 500,000 copies. Problem there is -- yup, you
guessed it -- additional production costs. Marvel is swimming in
red ink, and rumor has it that Time Warner accepts that DC will
operate at a loss so as to keep the trademarks alive for use in
movies, TV and books.
Thirdly, the per-unit sales aren't down solely due to fans turning
away due to costs. There's also the fact that comic books, as a
whole, were bodily TOSSED OUT of the newsstand market, cutting
their access to new readers and reducing the outlets at which
comics are available to some 1,300 specialty stores nationwide.
That's all. Ninety percent of all Marvel comics sold are sold at
one of those 1,300 stores (and it may be fewer as I write this).
The problem here is, again, that the 32-page pamphlet isn't
economically viable. In the '70s distributors and retailers
weren't clearing enough profit per copy of Superman (vs., say,
Time Magazine) to make it worth their while to even pick the books
up from the warehouse. True story: In the late '70s, distributors
would often opt to leave comics they'd already paid for sitting on
the docks if they were running short on time/resources. Since
comics were returnable, it was no skin off their nose -- they'd
just "return" them, and the publishers would eat the loss -- and
have to find some way to redistribute them again. Finally, the
newsstand distributors just told Marvel, DC, et al, to pack their
bags -- they wouldn't handle them any more. Hence the rise of the
comic-book specialty shop, which doesn't return unsold books, in
return for a hefty upfront discount.
So what I'm saying here is that your implication that publishers
raised prices 1,000 percent because they're evil, stupid or greedy
is genuinely unfair. And your suggestion that Amazing Spider-Man
would still have the same kind of sales in 2001 that it had in
1971 if publishers had only raised prices in pace with inflation
is not only unfair, but impractical and unrealistic. Your
assertion that the "suits" are killing a viable, profitable
industry by Prestige Format gimmicks and the like is -- well, just
wrong. Comic books are NOT a viable industry. They are NOT
profitable. They are DYING, and it has nothing whatsoever to do
with management decisions or Prestige Format projects or
miniseries that make it hard to collect Captain Phlegm
comfortably. If Marvel & DC had the identical product line
today that they had in 1971, simply adjusted for inflation, they'd
both be out of business.
That's the harsh reality for the industry as it stands now, and I
thought I ought to apprise you of it so that our conversation can
proceed. Because I DO agree with you that publishers are often
evil, stupid and greedy -- just not for the reasons you cite!
My main problem is their short-sightedness. Nobody in the business
was unaware of the looming problem in the '70s -- but nobody did
anything. Nothing. Executives at Marvel & DC sat on their
six-figure salaries and did NOTHING. They didn't try new formats.
They didn't try to change their plantation, work-for-hire
mentality into a traditional employer/employee relationship (like
at CrossGen, which will make a profit by the end of the year even
under 2001 conditions). They didn't reach out to new readers
through TV or magazine advertising. They didn't do any promotions.
They didn't hire PR people to get the word out, or marketing
people to get the product out. They didn't try alternative
distribution methods. They did NOTHING.
You know, if you or I showed that kind of stupidity and laziness
in our jobs, we'd have been fired without a second thought.
Secondly, not only did they fail to expand the market, they tried
to throttle the existing, shrinking market by strangling every
penny out of it.
Marvel & DC both expanded their best-selling heroes into
multiple-title "franchises" -- meaning that a guy who was buying
Uncanny X-Men every month was suddenly faced with having to buy 11
different X-titles a month to keep up. And, as you bitterly note,
pricey miniseries and one-shots abounded. Gimmicks like multiple
covers and foil covers and whatnot became the norm. That didn't
increase the number of readers; it just beggared the 100,000 they
already had.
Plus, Marvel & DC both started monkeying around with the
distribution system to specialty stores -- and virtually collapsed
it. Now there's only one main distributor: Diamond.
The publishers have also put the screws to the retailers -- those
valiant 1,300 store owners -- in too many ways to go into here.
Marvel's decision to not overprint is just one recent example;
this forces retailers to over-order (three months in advance,
tying up their cash flow) to meet possible demand, or take the
chance of under-ordering and losing potential sales (and new
readers).
Marvel Publisher Bill Jemas says that Marvel's no-overprint policy
is "an IQ test" for retailers, implying that they're stupid if
they don't cheerfully slit their own throats. He also waxes
enthusiastic about "collectibility," a phenomenon that was a huge
disaster not only for comics in the early '90s but trading cards
in the late '80s (when Jemas was head of Fleer). Good grief! He
really, really, really ought to know better!
I don't mean to single out Jemas; other publishers say and do
equally dumb things (witness Archie's PR disaster with Dan DeCarlo
just before the Josie movie debut). Yup, pig-headed, short-sighted
and greedy moves by "suits" really are a problem, so I agree with
you whole-heartedly there. But none of that would make much
difference in a healthy industry.
And comics are anything but healthy. Whew! Am I running off at the
mouth this week, or what? Here's more:
He sure is running it way off. His whole
MO as a reporter is anything but healthy. It’s hilarious how a guy
arguing about the elephants in the room won’t even talk about them
in his newspaper column for the most part. Indeed, I don’t think he
ever has. In fact, I don’t think anyone’s ever spoken about it on
TV!
And the 32-page pamphlet is still the norm, nearly 15 years after he
wrote this, and not a single argument even in modern times. As for
Crossgen, any profit they turned was obviously short-lived, because
by 2004, they went under so badly, its chairman couldn’t even afford
to pay their abandoning contributors properly.
Greetings, Cap! Reading in the letters this week
about how bad things were in the '90s, I would agree that a lot
of the things that went wrong with the industry were because of
trying to pander to the lowest common denominator. That's not to
blame any one person or group. I for one don't think Todd
McFarlane is the Antichrist, but would there have been some of
the more -- colourful -- comics if Spawn had not been such a
massive hit? It's also unfair to blame comics like Wolverine and
Lobo -- the Powers That Be were trying to pander to the market
they believed was there.
The thing that really turned me off in the early '90s,
however was the move to the other end of the sleaze market --
the so-called "Adult" comics that just seemed an excuse for
bondage or even more grotesque combinations. Two things come to
mind when I remember this: Eros Comics, which was started by
Fantagraphics to bring European adult books over, and Penthouse
Comix. At least Penthouse made no secret of what they were
publishing. and they had some good people working with them, but
Eros just seemed to bring over the worst of what could only be
called p***. I even have a vague memory of them getting into
trouble with US customs -- can you recall any of the details?
The sad thing is that there is that market for intelligent
adult comics -- look at the success of From Hell.
As to how to get younger people interested in some of the
classics, what I would love to see is a new version of that
fanboy favourite from the '80s, Amazing Heroes. That was the
magazine that got me interested in things like the
Atlas/Seaboard line. The only difficulty is it would need to be
something that could reach out to the general market place,
rather than the specialist comic shops. What magazine publisher
today is going to do that?
Maybe what we need is a list of books from our own past
that we would use to show people that comics can be
thought-provoking and fun at the same time. Some come
immediately to mind -- Watchmen, Dark Knight, Swamp Thing --
would be on anyone's list. But what about some of the more
obscure ones, such as: Doug Wildey's Rio western books that he
did for Eclipse; Comico's Jonny Quest series; Larry Marder's
BeanWorld (which I still don't fully understand 15 years on);
the Zenith series by Grant Morrison and Steve Yeowell from '80s
2000AD, and so on and so on. I'm sure others could come up with
great suggestions as well.
No, I'm not going to put the blame on Marvel for Punisher,
Wolverine, etc., on publishers -- there wouldn't have been four
Punisher titles in the late '80s if we weren't BUYING them. That's
not a perceived market for violent titles -- it's an actual one.
The same goes for p**** comics. I've never bought a single Eros
book or a Penthouse Comix -- but the market is certainly there. In
fact, it's the p*** books that keep Fantagraphics alive, so they
can publish low sellers like Hate. That means a whole lot of
somebodies are buying them, which isn't Fantagraphics' fault --
it's ours. They're just giving us what we want.
And I'll lay money down that no single issue of From Hell sold
half as much a single issue of Penthouse Comix. And I miss Amazing
Heroes as well, but it went out of business despite being embraced
by the fan community -- there just aren't enough of us to support
a real magazine. And Larry Marder, creator of BeanWorld, is now a
high muckity-muck at Image, but you don't see them jumping to
publish it ... there just ain't no market for it.
Alas -- what does that say about us?
Depending on one’s viewpoint, it is
troubling that a market for violence could overwhelm the other end
so badly. But that’s mainly the fault of the publishers/editors for
putting so much energy into the violent products and diluting the
pool of talent for those with less of a mayhem level. And now that I
think of it, Mr. Smith’s also at fault for not complaining about
said failure by publishers/editors. What does that say about people
like him?
Dear Cap: I just finished reading the rant of […]
about today's comics versus those of yesteryear. I'd like to
offer a differing opinion on the subject. I'm a 26-year-old
comic-book collector, and I didn't start reading until I was 16.
I've read mostly comics that were published after I started
reading, but I've also gone back and checked out older comics,
either through the Marvel Masterworks, the DC Millenium
editions, and other reprint options. While I enjoyed some of
them, mostly the early Spider-Man stuff, in my eyes, most of it
paled in comparison to what I buy today. I've now read the first
appearances of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and most of
Marvel's characters as well, and for many of them, my first
reaction was "Why did this become so popular?"
My feeling is, in our eyes, the comics that first attracted
us to the field will always be "The Best," whether that's
Detective Comics #27, Fantastic Four #1, or even Spawn #1. My
favorite comics of all time are the first run of New Warriors,
by Fabian Nicieza with Mark Bagley and Darick Robertson
providing the art. Although I recognize many comics that are
better written (like Transmet, or Watchmen, or others) or better
drawn, they don't give me that original thrill that re-reading
the "Forever Yesterday" story does.
While I can understand […] wanting to reclaim their youth
(something I like to try to do, even though it really wasn't all
that far in the past), their claim that "If DC and Marvel
re-released all the Silver Age classics ... and reprinted them
all over again, month to month at an affordable price," they
would sell well, seems to contradict the fact that every reprint
series that I'm aware of, from Marvel Tales to the reprints of
the Sandman series (issue by issue, not trade paperbacks), has
been canceled due to lack of sales.
I'm all for having the full history of the comic industry
available at a reasonable price, but the idea that the industry
should "reprint all the good stuff and save themselves some
money paying all those hacks" is shortsighted, to put it nicely.
(That's not the word I first came up with, but I was taught to
respect my elders.) Sorry guys, but the Silver Age is over, and
never coming back. Neither is the original era that I got into
comics ever going to return. But, I can accept that, and try to
find the best material that's out there today, and trust me,
there's a lot of it, if you know where to look.
Thanks for taking up the defense of the "modern age" […]. I also
disagreed with most of […]'s rant. But they're entitled to their
opinions, I feel obliged to run them, and I resist using my
"power" of having the Last Word to jump in and go "Nyah, nyah,
you're wrong, nanny-boo-boo." It just ain't cricket! I try to be
more moderator than participant in the more subjective debates.
But, objectively, things are exactly as you state: Reprints --
particularly those 20 years older or more -- just don't sell. Even
modern ones -- you cited the Essential Sandman monthly, and you
can toss in Essential Swamp Thing and Marvel's Monster books also
-- don't sell in a broad-based sense. Reprints that are targeted
to a specific age group, like Marvel's Masterworks, DC's Archives,
Archie's digests and Marvel's Essentials, do well enough -- but
they aren't barn-burners.
But I don't fault […]'s viewpoint; it's actually one we all share
in one way or another. To wit: The Golden Age of Comics is age 12.
That's another way to phase what you said, in that whatever books
first made us squeal with delight are always going to be "The
Best." Fantastic Four #30-60, Green Lantern #30-89, Justice League
of America #21-22 and Amazing Spider-Man #10-50 will always be
"The Best" to me, even though intellectually I know they're
horribly dated now and most kids turn their noses up at them. I
LOVE those comics! But I do realize that the storytelling skills
employed in their making are passe and wouldn't interest a modern
audience, and content myself in reading and re-reading them for my
own pleasure. (And I try to avoid proselytizing younger readers,
who would think me mad -- or worse, a fuddy duddy!)
To put it another way, Spawn does nothing for me, and I was so
bored with your beloved New Warriors that it's one of the few
Marvels in the last 35 years I didn't bother to collect. But the
Nicieza Warriors run is YOUR Golden Age, and I don't fault you for
it -- far from it, I'm delighted that you have those warm
memories, that no one can take away.
Just as every comic book is somebody's first, every comic book is
somebody's favorite -- and I'm glad […] have found such pleasure
in Mort Weisinger's Super-books. But they simply aren't going to
turn the crank for everybody.
[…] had more to say on another subject:
We’ll get to that in a moment. This
argument is oblivious to the paperback/hardcover reprints that have
boosted up since the mid-80s. Iron Man’s Demon in a Bottle trade was
an early reprint that went the right path for the whole idea. Of
course pamphlet reprints wouldn’t sell well by contrast as time went
by, because they were becoming outdated! This is especially evident
today when you have so much in paperbacks.
Dear Cap: In your Silly Super-Togs section, you
wrote:
<<Does anybody know why she's called MAGENTA instead of
MAGNETA? I mean, she has magnetic powers, not color-based
powers. Maybe in addition to being fashion-challenged, Fran's
dyslexic!>>
Well, her power seems to have a pinkish-purple aura to it when
activated, which some might describe as magenta, or close to it.
But, I'm betting the real reason her nom de guerre didn't end up
Magneta is because it's a little too close to another
supervillain's name put out by another company ... And
strangely, his power's visible affect is usually magenta as
well.
Isn't it interesting that colorists lean toward pink/purple to
illustrate magnetism? And isn't it equally interesting that the
major magnetic-based characters -- Magenta, Magneto, Dr. Polaris
and Cosmic Boy -- all favor pink/purple in their costumes? Is it
some Jungian thing? Or is it just follow-the-leader?
It’s peanuts compared to Smith’s idea of
follow-the-leader. That is, the establishment based mindset that
destroyed comicdom, and even moviedom.
Dear Cap: I was re-reading your "Silly Moments"
section when I suddenly remembered one from years ago. The story
in question appreared somewhere between 1975 (when I first
started reading comics) and 1985 (I'm fairly certain it was
pre-Crisis). I'm a little sketchy on the details, but the story
went something like this:
Lois Lane and Clark Kent are sent to a disco dance contest,
either simply to cover it or actually to enter it, I don't
recall. Clark somehow becomes aware that the dance floor has
been rigged to explode (by terrorists or crooks or somebody).
Clark cannot get away from Lois (I marvel once again at how
weird the sexual politics of Silver Age comics were), and so
hits upon the idea of entering the contest so as to get himself
out onto the dance floor. Once there, he uses some fairly
bizarre dance moves as cover while he delivers blows to the
dance floor itself which will somehow disarm the bombs (don't
ask me how), and ends up winning the contest and impressing Lois
with his unique dance stylings. I presume he caught the mad
bombers as well. The image stays with me of Our Hero in his
patented blue "Clark Kent suit" busting moves never seen on any
dance floor before or since. I particularly remember a panel
wherein Clark slammed his knees down onto the dance floor. Very
odd. The story was redolent of "Older Writer Good-Naturedly
Joshing The Wacky Youth Culture and Merely Exposing His Own
Unhipness Syndrome." It was obviously meant to be humorous but
left one with a sneaking suspicion that this was someone's idea
of what disco was really like, vaguely like the episodes of
Gilligan's Island and The Flintstones in which they introduced
rock bands that essentially chanted "Yeah, yeah, yeah" over and
over again.
At any rate, the one thing I can't remember is what book it
was in. Maybe you or one of your Legionnaires will remember what
book it was in. I'm not sure, but I don't think it was in either
Superman or Action. I was a more consistent reader of Superman
Family (and Batman Family) in those days, so maybe it was in one
of them.
As a side note, I miss the old "Family" books, I remember
them fondly. With all the ancilliary characters Supes and Bats
have acquired, maybe now's the time to bring them back. (Have
you ever noticed that no matter how often they clean up a
character's continuity, they still manage to collect all sorts
of detritus fairly quickly?)
I have indeed, […] -- note how quickly the Super-books
re-introduced the Phantom Zone, Bizarro, red kryptonite, The
Prankster, Toyman, the Bottle City of Kandor, the Fortress of
Solitude and Mr. Mzyzptlk after the post-Crisis Byrne revamp so
painfully ditched them all!
And you'd think I'd remember something as bizarre as the "Disco
Clark" story, but it doesn't ring a bell. Perhaps one of the
Legionnaires can point me to it for addition to the Silly
Super-Moments section!
And note how quickly the editors were
determined to get rid of Cat Grant’s son – in a story where he was
murdered by the Toyman in 1993 – and I shouldn’t have to point out
how painful that was! I wonder why that doesn’t qualify for a panel
discussion here?
Dear Cap: A while ago [name withheld] wrote about the
philanthropist side of Bruce Wayne being ignored. Specifically:
<<When Bruce Wayne appeared in Gotham Knights #4 visiting
a man on behalf of V.I.P., I was startled; I'd bet every Image
title I own that it was the first time V.I.P. was mentioned in a
Bat-title in 25 years. (Many thanks to writer Devin
Grayson.)>>
This reminded me of something Max Allan Collins stated in an
interview in Amazing Heroes #119. He noted "And I was trying to
speak to the central dichotomy of the Batman character, which
is, by day he is a liberal philanthropist and by night he is a
right wing, Fascist vigilante. How do these two men exist in one
skin? To me it was more interesting to see that this was one
complex person who in the one persona of Bruce Wayne was trying
to fight the symptoms -- illiteracy, poverty, funding free
clinics in slums, trying to help education move forward -- while
as Batman, he was dealing with those souls who are so torn by
the disease that they are now lost like they were zombies in a
George Romero movie."
Unfortuneately, Collins only did a few issues of Batman,
wrote an annual story, wrote a prose Batman story for the prose
collection The Further Adventures of Batman, and wrote the
newspaper comic strip (those last two were pretty much tie-ins
with the 1989 movie), so his work on the character was rather
infrequent during the late 1980s/early 1990s. Of late his only
Batman work was the Elseworlds Scar of the Bat (which, in an
interiview at www.januarymagazine.com, he noted was "the most
accurate story of Elliot Ness in Chicago (I) ever did ... except
for having Batman in it"). Hence, he was never able to develop
this characterization.
Thanks, [withheld]. It is an interesting dichotomy, and I'll be
interested in hearing what others have to say.
An even more interesting dichotomy is why
Mr. Smith sometimes says he finds sexual discrimination galling,
then goes right along and embraces obscene stories like Identity
Crisis soon after.
Dear Captain: While taking a break from the drawing
board today, I had two things on my mind.
A few weeks back (sorry, can't remember specifically when)
there was a discussion about sidekicks and such. Rick Jones was
brought up, and there was mention about how he stuck it out with
Bruce, largely through his guilt of helping aiding in the
creation of the Hulk.
While that is true, and every time there's a retelling of
the Hulk's origin, the panels that Kirby made famous are shown
(Rick sitting in his jalopy, Banner running, arm outstretched,
etc.) However, Rick isn't the MAIN reason why Banner found
himself trapped in the Gamma blast.
What about Igor?
Igor was the typical '60s comic Commie stereotype, working
under cover as Banner's assistant. As Bruce runs out of the lab,
he specifically tells Igor to halt the countdown for the Gamma
Bomb. Being a good little Commie spy, Igor ignores the
instructions, and of course, the rest is history.
So sure, Rick should feel the guilt, but if it wasn't for
Igor ...
My second thought, is a response to one of your responses.
In answer to a letter talking about TPBs being the future of
comics, in your answer was:
<<I agree that TPBs are the way to go, and I also agree
that some form of serial form must continue, if only to provide
the ongoing revenue to make the TPBs possible (as the industry
is currently constituted). -- Captain Comics>>
In a way, I'm attempting to do just that. I've created and have
begun running a daily (Mon-Fri) adventure comic strip on the
Web. My aim is to offer my work, free on the Web, trying to
build up a readership. Then, after 6-9 months, will package a
collection of the strips (along with extra panels) in a TPB.
Obviously, I'll be making no money while the strip is on
the Web (hence my freelance work to help pay bills) but I'm
hoping that attracting the readers for free on the Web, will
interest them to read the adventures collected in a book.
Will this work? Am I just kidding myself? (Will I drop dead
from all this work??) Stay tuned.
Free plug; [link withheld]
Glad to provide the plug, [name withheld] -- in the era of new
media, nobody really knows what's going to work and what isn't,
and I applaud you blazing a trail into the unknown. Good luck with
Charlie Kizmet -- and if it works, you'll be hailed as a
visionary!
As to Igor, the John Byrne Hulk revamp downplayed Igor's
involvement, and removed all references to his being a dastardly
Commie. (It was published after the fall of the Berlin Wall, after
all.) I don't know how much of Igor is still canon or not, and I
doubt Marvel's going to go to any great lengths to dredge it up
and explain it. They're probably just hoping we'll forget all
about "The Reds" being involved in the Hulk's origin (and those of
Iron Man and the Fantastic Four).
I think Peter David restored some of it by
1993, when he wrote a story where Igor (whose last name was now
revealed as Drenkov) “relived” his past actions as a spy and then
cracked up. But would they like us to forget about the past stories
involving commie villains? More precisely, they’d rather not even
use commies as villains today, any more than they would
Islamofascists! If we take a look at how bad the creative horizon’s
become under Joe Quesada, Tom Brevoort and Axel Alonso, we’ll get a
very good idea why.
Hello Captain! I just today found your Web site, and
while looking it over, I found the debates regarding Hal Jordan.
I have the perfect solution to clear up all of the standing
issues with the Hal Jordan murders and his current status as The
Spectre. It can be summed up in two words, HECTOR HAMMOND. My
idea is that just prior to the destruction of Coast City, Hector
Hammond did a soul/mind swap with Hal Jordan, but he left a
brainwave overlay of Hal's brain patterns in case he was scanned
by any telepaths. He was so looking forward to assuming Hal's
life that when everything went to crap as soon as the swap was
made, he lost it and went into a destructive rage because all of
his long years of plotting was for naught. In effect, he had
traded his life as a living statue for the life of his
most-hated enemy only to lose everything a second time. Sinestro
recognised the mental/soul difference during his and Hal's final
battle before Hammond-Hal slew him. I distinctly remember
Sinestro saying something about the evil within Hal, though I no
longer have that issue for reference. This would also explain
the Parallax mentality that Hammond/Hal developed later, and it
could also be part of the explanation for The Spectre taking
possession of Hammond/Hal as a punishment for Hammond, whose
soul essence is still locked within the Hal body. This means too
that Hal's still "pure" soul essence is still trapped within the
immortal, but paralyzed, form of Hammond and awaits the heroic
plot twist that will free him from this hellish curse. Of
course, this is all just wishful thinking on my part, but hey,
we fans can do nothing but dream.
That's a pretty good one, [withheld]! Would that it would come
true!
I have my own pet plotline to erase "Emerald Twilight" -- and it
stars Sinestro. He was imprisoned in Hal's ring for a lengthy stay
by the Guardians at one point. My "theory" is that Hal's powerful
personality (all that will power, remember) impressed itself on
Sinestro and after he was released it overpowered his own -- and
Sinestro's own yellow power ring transformed him into Hal!
However, Sinestro's one overriding obsession -- destroying the
Corps -- still asserted itself even as he was acting like Hal (who
he'd have imprisoned in the ring, 'natch) and he DID destroy the
Corps, believing himself to be Hal Jordan all the while.
And Tony Isabella has a plan as well -- that Hal had been
imprisoned on Apokalips by Darkseid before "Emerald Twlight", and
Darkseid had dispatched an unliving Parademon to masquerade as
Hal, who came to forget he was a Parademon and thought he was
really Hal Jordan. Meanwhile, Jordan's long since escaped, and has
been organizing an underground movement against Darkseid ...
I'd love to hear other "theories" about how "Emerald Twilight"
could plausibly be undone. Consider that a challenge,
Legionnaires!
Then consider mine: simply disavow the
entire “event” from continuity and if Hal must have been missing in
all this time, find an excuse for his absence. I just don’t
understand how people who went through the making of Crisis on
Infinite Earths can’t try similar ideas again if that’s what needs
to be done either.
Dear Cap:
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29691-2001Apr17.html
Just in case you haven't been alerted to it, the above URL
links to a lengthy feature article in today's Washington Post on
the 60th anniversary of the creation of Wonder Women. Besides
dealing with her various incarnations there is lots of
interesting information on William Moulton Marston, her slightly
crackpot creator, and on Phil Jimenez, her current illustrator.
Thanks, […]! [name withheld] and [also withheld] also clued me in
to the article, which doesn't offer much new info on the Amazing
Amazon but is pretty clever. Wish they'd asked me to write it!
As bad as the Wash. Post’s writers are,
Smith would be no better. I’m sure he’d sugarcoat more than enough
about DC history while he was at it, proving once again why many
mainstream reporters aren’t fit for their jobs.
Dear Cap: I read your column on time travel in the
April 6 Buyer's Guide (I am a little behind in my reading), and
I have a possible answer to the quesion you raised about Mon-El
existing in the 20th century. You mentioned that in the DC
Universe, when ever anyone traveled back to a time where he
already existed, that person became intangible (which answered
your question on why Superboy couldn't try again to prevent
Lincoln's assassination). Well, when Mon-El was in the 20th
century, he was intangible as a part of the Phantom Zone.
Therefore, he didn't really exist in the 20th century.
Now when you mention about Superboy's failure to prevent
Lincoln's assassination, I should point out that Superman did
prevent it -- sort of. I don't remember the issue number but it
was in the '60s during the height of the Silver Age. Lori
Lemaris, Superman's old mermaid girlfriend, was bemoaning the
fact that Atlantis had sunk beneath the sea and although
Superman said that it was impossible to change history, he
decided to try another exercise in futility. He traveled back
into time and prevented Atlantis from sinking!
This amazed him, and feeling better he also traveled
through time and,
Prevented the Battle of Little Big Horn (Custer's Last
Stand)
The execution of Nathan Hale
The assassination of Abraham Lincoln
And also Krypton from exploding.
Feeling proud and bewildered, the Man of Steel went back to
the 20th century and checked out a history book in the local
library. He found that none of the changes he caused ever took
place. He then traveled back in time and then found himself
sucked into a parallel universe where he found out that his
changes WERE in the history books. Apparently, he traveled into
a parallel universe were the natural laws could be transgressed
and history could be changed.
Speaking of time travel, I also remember the movie Bill and
Ted's Excellent Adventure, where they wreaked havoc with time
travel, but since your field is comics, I won't go into it.
Thanks for the misty memories of the Silver Age, Thomas -- I
remember that story, but don't remember where I read it either.
Lord knows I'm not plowing through 20 years of Action, Superman,
World's Finest or Superboy to find what was probably an eight-page
backup story.
As to Mon-El being in the Phantom Zone in the 20th century, that's
true enough, and I was playing fast and loose a little for the
sake of the joke. But only a little. In Mon-El's origin in
Superboy #89 (Jun 61) it was established that Lar Gand had been a
space explorer in the 20th century for some length of time -- he
even visited Krypton 16 years previously, through some weird
circumstance, and met Superboy's parents! So Mon-El was in the
Zone only for the latter part of the 20th century, and DC was only
occasionally careful about establishing WHEN Mon-El visited
Superboy's time -- he'd just show up with the Legion, and we had
to assume it was AFTER Superboy #89 every single time. Pretty
sloppy, you ask me! :)
Yet nowhere near as sloppy as Smith’s
morale and rationale! Let’s continue to May 2, 2001:
Dear Captain: I read about the new debate and thought
I'd throw in my two cents. I tried to wrap my head around the
argument. And here's where I came down.
Darn right! Stick it to them. Why should they Ithe
criminals) have money (and the power that comes with it) to use
against the normal citizen? I'm on the side that by embezzling
the money before it's used for illicit means that she has in
essence prevented a crime from being committed (money equals
paid to criminal equals criminal commits a criminal act). Ends
justify the means in this case.
Within any given comic book, the comic-book "heroes" are
making choices that are questionable at best. Batman commits
about 15 felonies within any given comic-book issue and we don't
condemn, do we? In the last issue of Green Arrow (I've only read
#2 as of now), Ollie breaks several laws within one page. But we
cheer him on, don't we? Is not Iron Man breaking several laws
(fraud, FAA regulations, endangerment) any time he plays "hero?"
The point is, are Barbara's actions in line with what's
going on in the community around her? No, but not completely out
of bounds for the group in which she's playing. I think this is
a "glass house" argument. All of these heroes have a skeleton or
two in their closet (except maybe for Superman, but even he's
killed in the name of justice).
She also serves as a information hub for the Bat-crew and
the JLA Watchtower, and I think the Titans by relation. Are they
going to cut off a major information source that's helping them
quite a bit because of an unethical smudge? One which helps to
fund something that continues their fight? No, I don't think so.
Those that know (Nightwing, Batman, Robin, Black Canary) turn a
blind eye because it helps their cause not to.
I think Barbara's place within the DCU is misplaced. I
think that she would make more sense being an underground myth
rather than so accessible to "heroes." See, now her association
taints all of them, doesn't it?
Think about this. Shouldn't she be more like Gary Sinise in
Forrest Gump? I mean bitter, disillusioned. Even moreso because
the source of her "power" (her legs) have been taken away from
her by a man who should've been put away permanently years ago.
I know that it makes her seem much more noble to not look back
in anger, but I don't think we got to see Barbara's angry
period. Which means, of course, that it's just displaced or
repressed and it's ready to come out. Stealing from a criminal
like Blockbuster would seem like pretty passive/aggressive way
of venting that anger, wouldn't it?
OK, what I'm doing is building a case for Barbara Gordon to
go "bad." I think it would be easy to do so, but that's neither
here nor there. It hasn't been explained within current
continuity and so far she's in the good-guy column.
In the crowd in which she's running, she really should be
funded by Wayne Industries or Max Lord or something with clean
cash. The dirty money is dirtying the business of justice in the
DCU.
But, what do I think? Is theft a heroic act? No, on its
face, of course not. I had a stereo stolen from my truck about a
year ago and all sorts of fantasies about catching the little
(creep) and getting my Dwight Yoakam CD back. No, theft is bad
in this case.
But what if the stereo I had was stolen and I had done the
bad deed? Do I have a right to be angry in that case? What if
it's stolen back by the guy from whom I stole it? Muddies the
waters a little doesn't it?
Are "unethical" or "immoral" or "unlawful" acts
unjustified?
I was looking at the word to make sure I had a grasp on
what we were talking about when we use "ethical" and "moral."
They get swapped around a lot. "Ethical" tends to deal with a
profession and the right or wrong of conduct in it, in this case
heroes. "Moral" tends to deal more with personal character and
behavior, in this case the actions a heroes employs to pursue
the cause of justice. And we've already discussed how "lawful"
most heroes' actions are.
Within the confines of ethics, Barbara's falls flat. She's
unethical. Which means, she needs to change the venue and stop
hanging around the Spandex crowd. But I think her actions are
moral; she's doing it for the right reason (in the name of
justice).
I'm going to separate what I think from what should happen
to her. I think if you can use money like that to undermine its
own industry, I believe in that. Let's put it this way, if there
was a chance to tap into the Department of Defense's black
budget and take enough in order to fund schools so that every
child gets a quality education for the next 10 generations, I'm
for it. I wouldn't lose a bit of sleep over it. There are
problems with that simplistic assessment (government funding to
schools, sheltering the money in off-shore accounts, not coming
under IRS scrutiny, etc.), but I don't see the moral quagmire
that some see from Oracle's fictional account.
Her embezzlement makes sense to me. Use the criminal's
resources against them. Punisher's been doing it for years. I
think it's mostly because Barbara used to be an upstanding hero
that we have a problem.
But you know what? Lose the use of half your body and see
what kind of outlets you use to satisfy the needs you still
have, but not the abilities to match them.
Fight the power!
I like your distinction that Barbara's actions are both moral
AND unethical. That may seem like splitting hairs, but that's why
it's a debate -- this is pretty muddy issue. Superheroes, despite
being technically vigilantes, have grown a code of conduct that we
subconsciously accept as genre convention -- heroes famously don't
kill, for example, and don't act as judge and jury. They act as
super-cops, not super-judges. By that standard, Barbara's sin tax
is in violation of her peers' rules of conduct.
A similar moral/ethical situation would be The Joker's defense
lawyer "throwing" his case to make sure that a homocidal maniac is
off the streets -- it's a very moral thing to do, but it violates
the ethics of his profession and could cost him his license to
practice if discovered. Since the original question was about
Barbara's ethics (although it grew exponentially), that's a vital
point.
On the other hand, Blockbuster is a REAL BAD GUY, and would use
money in the pursuance of illegal acts. So, heck yeah, rob the guy
blind and cripple his organization! Right? But once you start
"fining" Blockbuster, where do you stop? Is every crook's bank
account, no matter how petty or small-time, open to thievery?
Where do you draw the line -- and who decides? What if the crook's
bank account was money he was salting away for his doting mother's
heart medicine, instead of earmarked for crime? Uh oh -- that's
not so easy to justify.
Which brings up your point about how Oracle probably ought to
separate herself from the other characters. It's never been
established if Batman knows about her "funding," although common
sense dictates that nothing gets by The Bat. If he's "looking the
other way," then that makes him an accessory, and brings up a
whole new debate!
Wow, for the umpteenth time, look who
babbles about morality and ethics yet fails to follow them when
commenting on screeds like Identity Crisis! Just what is this
dummy’s point?
He hasn’t considered that lawyers usually have the option of
refusing to take a case or represent a defendant. Doctors and
nurses, on the other hand, have a much harder time opting out of
treating certain patients no matter how dirty they are. Not very
challenging ideas being pitched, eh? Now for 2-in-1:
Dear Cap: I was re-reading old "Mailbags",
particularly the letters concerning the ongoing "What's Wrong
With Comics Today?/What Can Be Done To Save Comics?" debate, and
I got to thinking. At first I wondered if maybe the problem is
that the whole superhero genre is played out. Maybe there's
nothing more to to be said with superheroes, and since
superheroes virtually are comics in the USA, the medium is
diminished because the genre is diminished. (Now, I realize that
there have always been some non-superhero stories, and that
today creators are more diverse than ever in their storytelling,
but superheroes still dominate the medium.)
In turn, this led me to ponder another question: "What if
the character 'Superman' had never existed?" As I recall, Siegel
and Shuster got turned down a lot before National Periodical
Publications (DC) bought the Man of Steel. What if they had
given up? I'm sure this isn't an original thought with me, but I
always figured that Superman was the primary cause of the Golden
Age superhero boom. I imagine that some characters with various
super-powers would've existed (as they always have) as would
"masked avenger" types like Batman (Superman was never really
one of his antecedents), but they probably wouldn't've come to
dominate the medium as they did in our history.
What would comics be like today if Kal-El had never
existed? Would they have a history of greater diversity of
genres, as comics had in their early days, and as Japanese and
European comics do today? Of course, other countries tend to
have their dominant genres, too. In the British comics (brought
back from Canada by my vacationing parents), a large majority of
stories revolved around WWII heroics and soccer teams. But even
then they had more variety than the comics I grew up with.
On the other hand, without the unique, colorful and
wholesome character of Superman to attract readers, would comics
still exist today? People often mock the "Boy Scout" images of
Superman and Batman in the early Silver Age, but no other
versions of the characters would've survived the 1950s. I
distinctly recall a Golden Age Batman story where he
machine-gunned zombies from his Batplane. What would Dr. Wertham
have made of that?
As I said earlier, I'm sure I'm not the first person to
think of this, so that if you know of any book/article/Web site
or whatever where these issues may well have been discussed by
cleverer minds than mine, I'd love to read them.
I guess the question that fascinates me is this: Taken all
in all, has "Superman" (and by extension, his offspring, the
"superhero") been a good thing or a bad thing? God knows, I've
enjoyed superhero stories my whole life long, but I can't help
wondering what we might've missed by our emphasis on this one
type of story.
Anyway, sorry for blathering on. […] go home now.
Heck, […], I hope you consider this site a home of sorts. At the
very least, it's a playpen, where there's no two-drink minimum and
your spouse never asks you where you've been!
Anyway, it's an interesting question you raise, and I won't
pretend to have a definitive response to questions no one can
possibly answer -- I'll leave that to the Psychic Hotline. I will,
however, hazard a guess.
In passing, I'll note that Alan Moore's famed Watchmen series
posited a world where superheroes actually existed, and all the
ramifications thereof, including the fact that comic books
wouldn't focus on superheroes. (Why buy a superhero comic book
when you can watch the news for all the superhero stuff you can
stomach?) Instead, in Alan Moore's vision, PIRATE COMICS dominated
the medium! I don't know his reasoning, but it's as likely as
anything else!
For my part, I suspect that without Superman to establish huge
sales and a large infrastructure in the early '40s, the comic book
would have disappeared in the late '40s when the novelty (and
sales) fell off. Some other form of heroic fiction would probably
have surfaced -- you can trace the genre back from pulps to penny
dreadfuls to The Iliad to Gilgamesh to Beowulf to cave paintings
-- but it probably wouldn't be our familiar, four-color pamphlets.
By extension, the comic book wouldn't exist in France, Japan, or
elsewhere, since they got the format/concept from us.
But superheroes a bad thing? No, I don't think so.
I agree with those who want more variety in our comics -- I think
it's a necessity to keep the medium healthy. But I tire of the
whining about superheroes. I disagree fundamentally with those who
say the genre has "destroyed" the medium. Superheroes haven't
chased away other genres -- if those other genres had lasting
appeal, they'd still be here. No, the medium is often dominated by
superheroes because they ALWAYS SELL. During lean times, it's
usually only the superhero genre that remains -- not because it
somehow sabotaged the other genres, but because it's the last man
standing (weakly) in a (weak) medium. Instead of vilifying the
superhero genre, we ought to rationally recognize its lasting and
significant impact on keeping the industry alive. Realistically,
without superheroes, there'd be nothing for the whiners to whine
about -- there'd be no superhero-dominated industry for them to
rail against.
[…] responded:
Dear Cap: You present an interesting case for superheroes.
Understand, I've always enjoyed superheroes myself, and I have
since I was 13 or so and used to jog several miles at 6 a.m. to
get to a store down by Cleary Square called simply "CIGARS"
which also sold comics. I was re-reading a diary I kept in those
days the other day. One day's entry reads simply "Bought Hulk,
All-Star and Nova." Was that really 25 years ago? And did I
really read Nova? I would've been better off reading Spidey
Super-Stories!
I have a feeling we may find out what a world without
superhero comics is like fairly soon. Maybe I'm cynical or
unduly pessimistic, but I sometimes get the feeling that we are
breeding a post-literate generation. In Fahrenheit 451 Bradbury
posited a future in which all books are banned by government
fiat. What I'm afraid of is that books won't need to be banned,
when they can instead be allowed to die of neglect.
I don't imagine that superheroes as a genre will disappear
from the world. There's no reason I can see that our four-color
friends couldn't survive online. In fact, as technology
progresses I can imagine superhero stories being presented as
little online mini-movies with levelsof "realism" that could
never be achieved with mere ink and paper.
Now I'm no Luddite. I have a computer, and I use it
frequently. (The World Wide Web, still your finest place to look
up wrestling results.) But I find myself defending comics the
same way my late father used to defend the old-time radio shows
he grew up with against television. "Television gives you
everything," he would say. "Radio required you to use your
imagination, to construct the scene in your head." I hate to
sound like the Old Man, but I really think that as marvelous as
the developing technology is, it will never be a substitute for
holding a comic in your hands and reading it.
I'm willing to bet that you, as a youngster reading comics
for the first time, developed a clear idea in your head of
exactly what the Hulk, Captain America, Thor and friends sounded
like. They may have been very different from the voices I
imagined for them, but they were right for you. And didn't you
hate it when you saw some darned cartoon where the voice actor
for a given character sounded completely different from what you
imagined? I guess that's why I loved the old 1960s Fantastic
Four cartoons (pre-HERBIE the Misfit Robot) -- the characters
sounded exactly the way I thought they would sound. Conversely,
it's also why I can't watch the new X-Men: Evolution cartoons.
Nightcrawler in particular just sounds wrong!
Anyway, to get back to my point (and I do have one, as
Ellen DeGeneres would say), I have a feeling that comic books as
we have known them cannot survive. It's a sad thought, and I for
one hope I'm wrong. Now I don't expect that comics will die out
completely, any more than vinyl records entirely vanished. (You
can still find them some places, if you look.) But it may be
that the future of superheroes does lie in electronic media, and
kids a generation or two from now will create their own
super-stories on their computers as easily as you or I created
them with our Crayolas once upon a time. And old-timers, perhaps
named […] or […], will tell these future generations about this
thing they used to have when they were kids called "comic
books". And maybe those self-same kids will roll their eyes and
say "Sure thing, Pops," just as I did when my father used to
tell me about the adventures of Jack Armstrong, the All-American
Boy.
But, you know what? That's life, times change, styles
change, and things move on whether we want them to or not. And
hey, I could be wrong, I don't know everything. If I've learned
nothing in 38 years, it's to expect the unexpected.
Wow, this little missive is dragging on and on, so I guess
I'll leave you with this profound thought: […] HUNGRY. […] GO
EAT NOW.
And I hope […] smash puny McDonald's human if he or she gets his
order wrong!
That's a sobering analogy you use about your Dad and old radio
shows. Yup, I've found myself in curmudgeon mode in exactly the
same way, talking to my nephews or other youngsters. I try to
eschew it, but really -- compared to videogames, what's a comic
book to today's kids? Sobering thought, indeed.
And, yes, you and I both bought Nova. Let's keep it our little
secret.
I don’t find that Hulk joke funny. With
all the maniacs running around assaulting women, you’d think he’d
know better than to make slapdash cracks like that. But maybe it
could explain his lenience on Identity Crisis, and even Civil War
(and Avengers: Disassembled, despite his attempt to sound like he
was panning it). It brings to mind the recent Bill Cosby rape
scandal – something I’ll probably have to comment on here in the
future – and some of the passages in a few of the books he wrote
during the 80s and 90s which some critics say register as creepy
today.
Dear Captain: I yelled a "hallelujah!" when I saw
your review of the following in your Next Week's Comics column:
MINISTRY OF SPACE #1: An interesting concept --
particularly for the history buff in me -- in which Warren Ellis
follows the idea that the Brits hired away Germany's best rocket
scientists after WWII instead of the Americans. But the
anti-U.S. propaganda is wearing a bit thin ("The way the Space
Race SHOULD have been!"). Note to Ellis: It's nice that you have
such loyalty to your native land, but please consult "B" in your
Barlett's Familiar Quotations, under "Bite the hand that feeds
you, don't."
I picked up The Authority during Ellis's run after
receiving your recommendation to check it out. Unfortunately,
this was exactly the point when he decided to crank up the
anti-Americanism. I posted to WildStorm's site to see what
others thought of the issue. Sadly, all on that board replied
with long treatises on what's wrong with America and that Ellis
is a hero for telling it like it is.
Why do so many Americans loathe their country so? As an Air
Force veteran, this disturbs me profoundly. Thank you, sir, for
providing a much-needed corrective.
Glad to do it, […]. I'm here to tell you that I think the USA is
the greatest country in the history of our globe, and I thank God
daily that I was born here and not, oh, Serbia. Or England, when
you come down to it, and I don't mean that as a slam against
England.
That's not to say I'm a blind patriot, or a zealous "America: Love
it or leave it" jingoist. Sure, the US has plenty of problems --
who doesn't? The cool thing about the US is that we are utterly
free to discuss those problems, disagree with each other about
solutions, and even irrationally slam our government, our
political system, the religious right, the goofy left, our
second-grade teacher and our next-door neighbor if we want to.
That principle was enshrined in THIS country for the FIRST time
200 years ago, arguably making it possible for freedom of speech
to exist ANYWHERE. Some abuse of it is the price we pay for having
it at all. Freedom of speech exists to protect UNPOPULAR opinions,
and I grit my teeth when somebody burns a flag -- but it's his or
her right to do so, and I'd fight to the death to defend it.
Why do so many Americans belittle their own country? I assume it's
because they can. And if you talk something down enough, it's
human nature to accept it as true. (Joseph Goebbels called it "The
Big Lie Technique.") Besides, a great many of the folks you refer
to on the WildStorm boards are probably adolescents, and it's the
nature of adolescence to be dissatisfied with and critical of the
status quo -- hey, that's what being a teenager is all about, and
it's healthy and normal. They don't yet have a stake in the
system, the status quo generally doesn't benefit them directly,
and they have no adult responsibilities. Once they have their
first mortgage payment, they'll abruptly lose their radical
firebrand pose.
When I'm not annoyed by Ellis's blatant anti-Americanism, I'm
amused -- because the only reason he can shoot of his big bazoo is
because America made it possible for him to do so. I guess we're
big enough to take it.
Sometimes I’m amused by Smith’s own
hypocrisy on serious issues, but never when it comes to his
flippance on topics like sexual/spousal/child abuse. How fascinating
a man who alleges to find anti-Americanism appalling can’t find it
in himself to condemn Identity Crisis and Civil War for their own
anti-American metaphors.
Intrestingly, Rick Veitch later wrote a 9-11 Truther screed called
“The Big Lie”, and one can wonder if he got that name from Goebbels’
creepy tactics…and why Mr. Smith’s never bothered to argue why that
kind of monstrous propaganda only hurts the medium’s reputation.
Dear Captain Comics: A while back, somebody asked why
the comic-book industry never switched over to a standard
magazine format as an answer to their sales and distribution
problems with traditional magazine & book retailers. In
response, you quoted from (and provided a link to) a Stephen
Grant column on the Comic Book Resources page in which he states
that the idea can't work. His primary arguments are that A)
magazines derive 60 percent or more of their revenues from
advertising and B) comics circulations are too small to attract
the notice of major advertisers.
I read the full column, and I don't agree with his
conclusions. Sure, comics circulations are relatively small; I
understand that the best-selling title today barely cracks
100,000, a far cry from the 1950s when Whiz Comics routinely
sold more than a million. (By the way, all my information is
anecdotal, but I welcome anyone with hard facts to share them.)
But that's a chicken-and-egg argument; today's comics are
largely shut out of the newsstand market, so who can say that a
newsstand-distributed product can't do better today?
The closest analogues we have today for newsstand comics
are MAD, Cracked and Heavy Metal. I have no numbers for Heavy
Metal, but I recently read in The New York Times that Cracked
sells at about 230,000, and MAD sells at about 250,000 -- almost
half the 480,000 it was selling just three years ago, before
some ill-considered editorial changes sent readers fleeing.
Grant argues that comics fans wouldn't put up with ads, but
come on -- we see them in every other magazine, so why would it
be so strange to see them in comics? Even MAD has begun to
accept advertising.
Why are advertisers interested in MAD? For the same reasons
they could be interested in other comics titles -- demographics.
The readership of comics, by and large, is males from their
early and mid-teens up to their early 40s. And who are the most
desirable targets for advertisers today? Males in the 18-25 age
group. Males in the 25-36 group and in the 13-18 group are also
highly sought after, which describes just about the entire
comics-reading audience! Ads for video games, CDs, computer
games and software, movies, videos and DVDs, soft drinks and
clothing are naturals for this crowd.
Why are the 18-25 males so prized? Because they are thought
to be the hardest bunch to reach with advertising; anything that
captures their attention is worth a premium. This is why
advertisers flock to the Super Bowl; it reliably draws the
largest audience of males every year. This was the rationale for
the creation of XFL football; WWF wrestling is big with that
young audience, so there was hope that its popularity would rub
off. (Well, that idea flopped, but that's another story.)
I'm somewhat baffled that DC, at least, hasn't tried
harder; after all, it's part of *** Time Warner, which has a
whole division dedicated to creating new magazines. (It gave us
People, Entertainment Weekly, In Style, Teen People and Sports
Illustrated for Women, among others.) And, as you and others
have noted, DC Comics is the incubator for an endless array of
spinoff products based on the comics characters.
The biggest hurdle I see to getting comics back on the
newsstand (aside from publishers' lack of will to make it
happen) is that there's been a lot of consolidation among
magazine distributors in recent years. The new giant in the
field, according to The Wall Street Journal, is rather ruthless
about pushing for efficiency. He can't yet end the system where
retailers merely return unsold stock to the distributor, but
he's trying; he's starting by lowering the bar on how many he'll
take back.
Another problem is the notorious brand loyalty of comics
fans to their particular company -- Marvel zombies, Image
freaks, etc. After all, the main goal of advertising is to steer
you away from the other guy's product. Advertisers don't prize
the 18-to-25-year-olds because of their disposable income; after
all, the 36-to-54-year-olds are at the top of the earnings
curve, and the 54-to-72-year-old have more time, and several of
them have more money, than anybody. The reason advertisers want
the 18-to-25-year-olds is that they haven't settled on their
favorite brands yet; they still can be persuaded to switch. This
is why a show like Touched by an Angel can draw four times as
many viewers as, say, Buffy the Vampire Slayer but can only
charge a fourth of what Buffy gets for a 30-second ad; Buffy
draws the young viewers, and Touched attracts their grandparents
-- who, after all, have fewer years left to buy stuff.
To illustrate, there was a Pepsi commercial that aired
during the Super Bowl a few years ago. It showed a newborn baby
in the maternity ward, and his first sight was Cindy Crawford,
Tyra Banks and Christy Turlington waving at him through the
window, sipping Pepsi and ooohing and aaahing about how cute he
was. The tagline: "Baby Norman -- Pepsi drinker for life."
Well, if Baby Norman truly is a Pepsi drinker for life,
then neither Coke nor Pepsi want to waste any more time or money
on him. In other words, Pepsi has GOT his loyalty, so the fact
that Christina Aguilera is in Coca-Cola's ads won't make him
switch; she's for the kid in the next crib who hasn't made up
his mind.
A newsstand comics magazine may not be the answer for
getting the young reader back into comics, but I think its a
viable answer for the audience that exists -- and making comics
available to more places than just the specialty stores would
surely help the business grow.
As for the younger reader, I am baffled that DC doesn't
have a reprint digest, like Archie does, or a kids magazine like
Disney Adventures, which is at the checkout of every supermarket
I've ever set foot in, right next to TV Guide, Readers' Digest,
Jet and the soap opera magazines.
The official reason Marvel & DC don't publish digests is
because reprint fees to creators make it cost-prohibitive. I don't
know what Disney's policy is, but Archie Comics doesn't pay
reprint fees, making their digest line possible. Tough break for
Dan DeCarlo, though.
As to Golden Age circulation figures, they are indeed suspect. The
editors of Comics Buyer's Guide have done a lot of hard journalism
on that subject, and what they've turned up is that circulation
figures posted by publishers in the '40s were often for whole
lines instead of individual titles -- that Fawcett posted
circulation figures for Captain Marvel Adventures, for example,
that included every Captain Marvel title published that month! (DC
would do the same thing with its Superman line, its Batman line,
All-American Comics, etc.) Since an ad that appeared in Captain
Marvel Adventures would also appear in all those other Captain
Marvel books, it wasn't exactly fraud. But what the actual
circulation figures for specific titles were, nobody knows -- and
we should certainly look at those gargantuan figures with a
jaundiced eye.
You made some nice points about the magazine format -- except that
magazines have a notoriously difficult time making a profit
because their circulation requirements are so high. Ninety percent
of all new magazines fail -- only 10 percent crack the circulation
ceiling necessary to charge advertisers sufficiently to make a
profit. Needless to say, that ceiling is a LOT highter than the
100,000 that X-Men pulls -- in fact, it's probably three or four
times that. You'll note, for example, that Heavy Metal was
probably pulling in twice the numbers X-Men does, and failed
anyway. Ditto with Penthouse Comix -- they were making a profit,
but only marginally, and Bob Guccione killed the title as a waste
of his time and resources. Marvel & DC would have killed for
those circulation figures, but it wasn't deemed profitable ENOUGH
in the high-stakes, highly competitive magazine market.
Since this was written, outside
advertising in mainstream’s shrunk to much fewer ads published, with
in-house ads now making up a larger percentage. This was
particularly noticeable in Spider-Man several years back, after the
whole One More Day debacle.
Speaking of loyalty, even alleged journalists aren’t much different
from the zombie-fans, judging by how they fail to comment
objectively on some of the worst products in comicdom today.
Dear Captain: A couple of things:
1) Liked your updates to "Silly Super-Names." How about the
old Flash foe Big Sir? I thought this name was absolutely absurd
and meaningless when I was seven years old. Years later, when I
discovered that it was probably taken from the most beautiful
region in California, I realized it was an even dumber name than
I'd thought.
2) As promised, my comments on Michael Chabon's The Amazing
Adventures of Kavalier & Clay: As I'm sure you know, this
novel -- which just won the Pulitzer Prize -- centers on the
Golden Age of comics. It's really very good, and I'm so glad
that it's garnered so much attention. It furthers our ongoing
crusade to make the general public aware and appreciative of the
comics medium and comics history as a vital part of American pop
culture. (I get so frustrated whenever anyone says that jazz is
the only truly American art form.) This is especially important
since the comics medium is dying, and we'd better recognize it
before it goes the way of freak shows and radio serials.
(Fortunately, I saw Michael Chabon on CNN, and he said movie
rights have been sold for Kavalier & Clay, and he's already
completed a first draft of a script).
Chabon -- obviously a comics geek himself -- got a lot of
his details right, although he raises a few questions. For
example, one of his protagonists, writer Sammy Clay, is a
closested gay man. What kind of evidence is there that any of
the creators of the real-life Golden Age were gay? It makes
sense, since even then it was an outsider's medium, and
superheroes have always appealed to people who feel alone and
powerless, but I wonder if Chabon based his story on any
documented truth.
Also, and this I find particularly interesting, the
character that Kavalier and Clay find success with is called The
Escapist, a super-powered escape artist. Joe Kavalier, the
artist, started out as an escape artist himself, and Chabon
makes a point that a primary inspiration for the concept of the
superhero was Harry Houdini, wildly famous in the early 20th
century as a showman of nearly superhuman abilities. Has anyone
discussed this point previously? I'm surprised it's never
occurred to me, since I'm a big Houdini fan, and I've spent more
than a little energy on analyzing the meaning of and love for
superheroes. Another interesting point here is how Houdini, as
he got more and more famous and more and more revered, became a
raging egomaniac (read Houdini!!! by Kenneth Silverman, an
excellent and meticulous biography, which informed me that
Houdini had an affair with Jack London's widow in my sister's
Greenwich Village apartment building!) I've always felt that if
superheroes were real -- if a virtually ominpotent person like
Superman or Green Lantern actually existed -- they too would be
egomaniacal, if not worse (say, power-mad and intent on
conquering the world). I suppose that's why I've always been
partial to Batman -- his super-competence makes him a jerk,
which makes his stories a lot more believable.
Finally, probably the crux of the whole novel is how Joe
Kavalier -- a Czech refugee who leaves his family behind during
World War II -- uses The Escapist, and his battles against
fictional Nazis, as a way to calm his survivor's guilt. How much
do you think the actual Jewish creators of the Golden Age felt
this way? That having Captain America punch out Hitler, or
Superman destroy a German tank, was a way of compensating for a
lack of powerlessness against the Nazi threat? Did Siegel and
Shuster, for example, have relatives who died in the Holocaust?
Sorry I went on so long. Just read the book.
Big Sir is indeed a silly name, and has been added.
As to closeted gay Golden Age creators, I don't know of any --
but, then, that's what "closeted" means! Frankly, I'd be surprised
if there weren't quite a few them -- statistically, if for no
other reason, and also for the reasons you cite.
As to escape artists and funnybooks, Houdini was certainly in the
mix when Bob Kane dreamed up Batman, along with The Shadow, Zorro,
The Scarlet Pimpernel, The Bat Whispers, Errol Flynn,
Michaelangelo's bat-winged flying device and God knows what else.
Jack Kirby's Mister Miracle was based on a real-life escape artist
too -- Jim Steranko, believe it or not.
As to Siegel and Shuster, they dreamed up Superman in the mid-'30s
-- long before the Holocaust was a reality, much less common
knowledge. Actually, I always assumed Superman was at least partly
based on the Jewish legend of The Golem -- a creature of
unbelievable power whose duty it was to defend the defenseless.
Although, I hasten to add, events in Europe were certainly
frightening in the '30s, as Hitler marched through the Rhineland,
Alsace-Lorraine, Czechoslovakia, Austria, etc., and that would
likely have had an impact on the zeitgeist that produced Superman,
first published in 1938 but created several years earlier. I'd
guess fear of Hitler and rampant anti-Semitism played a role in
S&S's thinking, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hitler's
unnerving success made publishers a bit more open in 1938 to the
idea of a powerful protector than they were in, say, 1935.
Smith’s answer forgets to note that
Austria, from where Hitler came from, was a key nazi collaborator.
It’s regrettable that the correspondent thinks Chabon is worthy of
recommendation, because he represents some of the crummiest
left-wing ideals for a novelist. So far as I know, Kavalier &
Clay wasn’t adapted to film, and that’s okay, because it may be a
leftist propaganda vehicle too.
Dear Cap: While I'll agree that Penthouse Comix was
just sleazy, they did have one brief, shining moment: They
published an issue long "tie-in" to Tim Burton's Mars Attacks
movie, which featured an absolutely hilarious story pitting Mr.
Monster against the invading Martian hordes. There was little or
no nudity, gratuitous or otherwise, let alone the sort of OB/GYN
stuff normally found in Penthouse, and other than some physical
resemblance between the Martians in the movie, the story was
pure, over-the-top Mr. Monster silliness.
Also, thanks for the insights into what actually went wrong
with comics in the last 30 years from the business standpoint.
I'm cc-ing my assembled comics fan buddies, and I'm going to try
to put it up at my local comics shops. It completely ROCKED.
Thanks, […]! I sometimes forget that what I've learned in the last
35 years isn't common knowledge -- but I'm glad to share! And I
missed a Mr. Monster story! Darn! Here's more on that
comics-business business:
He thinks Penthouse’s product is sleazy,
but not Identity Crisis? Ladies and gentlemen, there’s another
double-standard by a left-wing propagandist. One who long forgot
morale for the sake of establishment norms.
Dear Cap: Another fine installment of the Mailbag ...
I feel that your takes on the state of the industry are spot on
-- especially lately, in particular the analysis of CrossGen's
success following a "modern" business model and the utter lack
of viability of the 32-page pamphlet as a sales vehicle, despite
it being the bread-and-butter sales vehicle in the industry.
Another take was recently aired on Comicon.com -- a notable
one at that -- by Mike Friedrich, an important figure in the
building of the current (if not "modern") comics business
landscape, playing a part in the creation of the Direct Sales
Market and serving as counsel (most notably) for Neal Adams in
the early days of the quest for recognition of creator's rights
(I'm probably remembering the last piece wrong). The take,
however is not particluarly inspiring, but eye opening
nonetheless. He echoes your sentiment that the current
publishing form IS severely outdated, and wishes for the arrival
of comics King Arthur/Joan of Arc figure -- a young (Friedrich
gives the age of 25) overflowingly talented and (this is
important) savvy individual who can come in and make things work
again (he evokes Will Eisner as the prime example of this). A
really good interview:
http://209.198.111.165/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000160.html
Good grief! Friedrich really HAS read too many comic books! He's
waiting for somebody to swoop out of the sky and save us? Look,
the Lord helps those who help themselves -- why isn't Friedrich
doing something to bail out the industry? And why does Our Hero
have to be 25? No offense to 25-year-olds, but I don't expect them
to have much in the way of business savvy! Wouldn't somebody with
Friedrich's experience and acumen be more likely to bust a move?
I think Mr. Smith has read too many
left-wing journals! That’s why he can’t comprehend the key problems
with Identity Crisis and Civil War. And despite what he might say,
he can’t understand what’s wrong with Avengers: Disasembled either.
The incompetent correspondent who wrote that piece also bought too
far into his CG analysis. As a result, he doesn’t get how Smith’s
deviation from objectivity led to a very poor analysis of their
“success”.
Just some quick notes, Cap, on things from this
week's Mailbag and Q&A.
I was so pleased to see someone else observe that DC's
Crisis was designed to make things easier for the writers, not
the readers. I never knew a reader of any age, at any time, who
didn't grasp the concept of parallel Earths. However, DC's
writers and editors, no doubt, were constantly being called to
task by reader complaints such as "How could Wildcat team up
with the Creeper? Wildcat lives on Earth-Two, while the Creeper
is from Earth-One." The few times I've heard or read DC
personnel or other comics professionals trying to defend the
Crisis as doing it "for the readers" has always sounded weak.
You also echoed another point I've always made, in
reference to the huge price inflation of comics over the last
three decades. Like you, I do not claim that the executives at
DC or Marvel are immune to bad decisions or short-sightedness;
however, I know that they aren't evil men out to gouge the
buyers by raising the prices ad librium. For some reason,
though, there is a highly vocal number of fans who believe that
DC hasn't got the right to make any profit out of its comics --
as if DC has some sort of sacred responsibility to print the
fans' favourite comic.
It's an oddity of comics fandom, possibly because we're so small
and insular. But a lot of comics fans feel they "own" their
favorite characters, and the companies have no right to make
wide-ranging decisions about them. Well, without consulting them,
I guess. :)
As to Crisis, for months in '85-'86 I heard those weak defenses,
suspecting that it was a lie. Then someone -- I think it was Marv
Wolfman! -- let it slip in an interview that, "Yeah, you know, the
whole multiple-Earth thing was annoying to have to explain at the
first of every team-up, so we killed it." Frankly, there was no
joy in finding out I was right.
Oh, does that correspondent know how to
sugarcoat! He was among the Identity Crisis supporters, so I don’t
see what business he has complaining about “weak” defenses, when
plenty of those issued for IC rated even lower.
And if Smith realizes how insular comics readers have become in a
time when they’re such a tiny part of the population, how come he
doesn’t have what it takes to admit Identity Crisis stems from that
very insularity? How come he doesn’t even have what it takes to
distinguish between fictional characters and the writers assigned to
them? How come he zigzags too whenever he feels like it?
Dear Cap: Did you see The Daily Show (on Comedy
Channel) when they visited Gaylaxicon and they asked this guy
whether he got more flack for being gay or a sci-fi fan? He said
it was sf geek hands down.
Anyway, that got me thinking. Isn't it funny how:
Memorizing the powers and origin stories of superheroes and
discussing who could trash whom is geeky ... whereas doing the
same for baseball players is normal?
Spending hours fixing up a car and yabbering about classic
cars is cool ... whereas building and fixing up computers all
day labels you a nerd?
Writing your doctoral thesis on racism in Star Trek makes
you look like a mental case ... while writing your thesis on
trashy B-horror movies of the '50s earns you both academic
cachet and real-world envy?
Weird but true. I hate to say it, but doing the comics column has
been an impediment to my newspaper career -- a lot of editors
don't take me seriously now -- whereas being gay or black or
female or Chinese or a bad dresser wouldn't have been. Comics
fans: The last oppressed minority!
How nice of him to espouse victimology. I
suppose when somebody in mainstream develops the guts to say IC is a
screed, he’ll continue to call us all victims? The only thing we’re
victims of is addiction to buying and collecting no matter the
quality of the story, and an inability to grasp how this only
emboldens the publishers to continue with their atrocities, no
matter how small their audience gets.
Dear Cap: Long time, no communicate. Here's some
commentary.
<<... but if it advances Captain America beyond the
two-dimensional Ward Cleaver construct he's been for years, I'm
all for it. -- Captain Comics>>
What about Mark Waid's run on Captain America? I can't think of
a single writer -- including Kurt Busiek writing the character
-- that has handled Cap so well in comics. The only other really
good handling was Tony Isabella and Bob Ingersoll in the novel,
Captain America: Liberty's Torch.
<<The first problem that I see is that these movies tend
to have way too high an emphasis on special effects and
established stars ... – […]>>
It's hard to blame Hollywood for wanting lots of special
effects in superhero movies. Just look at the source material:
comics media stories with unlimited special effects budgets. The
only limitation for special effects in a comic are those of the
imaginations of the writer and artists and the ability of the
artists to develop that onto paper. Comic books are, basically,
huge special-effects productions.
Yes, Hollywood does overdo it. From the beginning, the
Batman films were garish. The Batwing? Bleah. Couldn't fly
(there's this little thing called "lift" that anyone who has
taken physics or studied aviation could tell you about). The
Batmobile? Each movie's Batmobile was worse than the previous.
Batman's costume? So much for ol' Bats's gymnastic abilities.
X-Men, on the other hand, kept the technology pretty darn
close to its comic-book origins. One of the two differences I
really saw was Cyclops's motorcycle. Where'd that "turbo boost"
come from? The second was the chamber that Cerebro was in. Every
time I see the movie, I can't helping thinking the words
"Stellar Cartography" (see Star Trek: Generations if you don't
understand the reference. The Cerebro unit itself, however,
looked very close to its comic-book origin.
As for casting, I've said it before and I'll say it again
that casting big names is NOT neccesarily the way to go. Yes,
there were some big names (in the Superman movies). Of the two
biggest names, one (Gene Hackman) was the villain and the other
(Marlon Brando) was in a pretty minor role. Who had heard of
Chrisopher Reeve before he helped to make the world believe that
a man could fly?
Same thing with X-Men. Sure, it had Patrick Stewart and
some other well-known names -- none of which I'd consider
A-level Hollywood actors and actresses. (This is not to belittle
their talent, they just aren't on the popularity level of, say,
Tommy Lee Jones or Julia Roberts.) But James Marston? Hugh
Jackman? I read bios that listed other things they have done,
but I never heard of them before X-Men.
It was these (relative) unknowns that helped make both
movies so good. And it was celebrity casting that helped make
the Batman movies so bad.
Of the three actors to play Bruce/Batman, I think that only
George Clooney fit the role well. Unfortunately, he was saddled
with a terrible script and a director with a terrible vision.
Jack N. as Joker was pretty darn good: scary and homicidal.
Michelle P. as Catwoman was also very good, even if the film's
Catwoman was nothing like any Catwoman I've ever read in the
comics. But so many of the others were just terrible in their
roles (DeVito, Kilmer, Ah-nold and others, especially Chris
O'Donnell).
I seem to be ragging on the Batman films. I hope so. From a
comic fan -- and especially a Batman fan -- standpoint, they
were abosolutely terrible. Each one was worse than the previous.
I'm sure looking forward to Spider-Man, though. The cast is
known, but not A-level. The director seems to be truly
interested in doing a good adaption of the origin material. And
organic web-shooters? A good idea. Stan Lee may have been a
genius, but even geniuses miss things sometimes. (And there is
precedent for a Spider-Man with organic web-shooters. See Peter
David's excellent Spider-Man 2099 series.)
MJ just left Peter.
Rant time. The first two issues of Mary Jane's return (in
the regular monthly titles) were terrific. Even (my wife)
enjoyed them. Then came part three in the Spidey annual. And it
sucked. Big time. Peter just saved MJ from a psycho who has had
her captive for months. They had a terrific reunion. Everyone is
happy. Then the annual comes out and suddenly she doesn't want
to be around him. They've "grown apart." (Expletive).
Do you how ticked I have to be to use a word like
"(expletive)?" Really, really ticked. This was a (expletive) bad
story. I have a feeling that it was editorially driven, not
writer-driven. Why even bother bring Mary Jane "back" to life
just to return the books to the status quo that they've had for
months? Just so they can say to some fans, "See? We didn't
really kill her." I never really believed that she was dead
anyway. What a waste.
<<I have my own pet plotline to erase "Emerald
Twilight" -- and it stars Sinestro." -- Captain Comics>>
It sounds like a good story but has one minor glitch. The
Guardians brought Sinestro back as a final defense against Hal.
Hal killed him, just like he did so many others.
<<He wasn't a bad man. He was a good man ...who did a bad
thing. And if you can't tell the difference between the two then
what the Hell are you doing here? -- Superman in JLA:
Superpower>>
I picked that quote simply because I'm re-reading Superpower.
It occurs to me that Superman's comment (to Green Lantern)
equally applies to Batman's attitude about Hal Jordan. What do
you think?
I think that Hal didn't do a bad thing, like the character in
Superpower. I think he did a MONSTROUS thing. He wiped out an
entire police force! He left thousands of grieving spouses and
children! He left the whole universe open to Darkseid or Mongul or
whoever! He murdered HIS BEST FRIENDS IN COLD BLOOD! And how many
sentients died in a natural disaster because there wasn't a GL
there to stop it? Translated into real-world terms, it's as if I
murdered my family and everybody at work, and then killed every
policeman, firefighter and paramedic in the world! His crime is so
unbelievably huge and shocking, I STILL can't get over it! And
they still call him "the greatest Green Lantern"? Good grief! He's
worse than Darkseid!
Whew! Got to switch to decaf.
On to your other points:
On Hal killing Sinestro: Well, heck, that Sinestro was just
another ring construct by those tricky Guardians evoked for
psychological reasons. Geez, roll with me here! (And, come to
think of it, whey didn't the Guardians just shut off the Green
Power to Hal when he went berserk? They'd done it before --
famously in the Green Lantern/Green Arrow series, when Hal "went
on sabbatical" and they cut him down to half-power. Oh, wait,
there I go bringing story logic into "Emerald Twlight" again, when
it is simply not applicable.)
On Mary Jane leaving Peter Parker being stupid: I agree. The MJ
"finding herself" excuse was nonsensical in terms of established
characterization and clearly editorial fiat to clear the decks for
J. Michael Straczynski's debut. Mary Jane deciding, after months
of separation from her husband and life, that MORE separation is a
swell idea -- well, it's just stupid and makes for a bad story.
You could practically see the editor's hand swooping down and
snatching her from the series. And, as I'm on record as saying, I
resent any story that's guided by anything other than telling a
good story. Like, oh, Emerald Twilight.
On movies: Can't disagree with a word you said. Have nothing to
add.
On Captain America: I enjoyed Waid's run quite a bit. I was
referring more to Mark Gruenwald's lengthy run, which I couldn't
stand, and everybody seems to think is the standard for how to
write Captain America. Bleah. Gruenwald wrote Cap as a clucking
old hen who disapproved of everybody and everything. Instead of
being the best big brother you could imagine (as Stan Lee wrote
him), he was the disciplinarian father you couldn't wait to
escape.
And Brad Meltzer wrote Wally West as an
ignorant idiot who cared more about the magic “lobotomy” in IC than
Dr. Light’s violation of Sue Dibny. So I don’t put any value on his
observations of Gruenwald. Smith didn’t make any serious complaints
about the shafting of Mary Jane in his columns during 1999 either,
so I see no points to his arguments here, and come to think of it,
the correspondent doesn’t have many to offer either. Next is the
umpteenth letter I wrote:
Dear Cap: Have you heard about Kurt Busiek’s plan to
tell about what happened to one of Marvel’s big mistakes, the
teenaged version of Tony Stark? He’s now planning a story for
either the title itself or for a miniseries that explains what
happened to Tony’s teen self five years ago, during the Heroes
Reborn story arc. It’s something he’d been planning to do for
awhile now, and now he’s got the time.
Marvel’s idea to replace Iron Man with a teenaged version
of himself with zero personality was a really big screw-up that
really surprised me. Why did they ever think he was “too old”?
As you once said, you see Tony Stark as being a guy in his early
30s. And in my opinion, it’s a pretty fitting age for him too.
It gives him a more authoritative image, and as the chairman of
a huge machinery firm, it helps make him look more convincing
without being too old. One difference is that he’s undeniably a
few years younger than Bruce Wayne/Batman, to be sure.
Of all the “older” characters in the Marvel universe, Iron
Man is probably the one I can identify with the most. While I’ve
never been paralyzed or suffered broken limbs like he has, I
have many times suffered some painful cuts and bruises from
foolishly knocking my hands and toes against hard furniture when
I was young. And there have been many times during the summer
when I’ve had a problem of getting blisters on my ankles (my
shoes haven’t always been the best). But painful as such things
are, I’ve survived them. And it’s amazing as to how Iron Man
survives his even more painful injuries: he’s taken flak from
the (North Vietnamese), he’s been crippled by a madwoman’s
bullet, he’s come very close to death by a mind uplink with one
of his remote outfits, and he’s been beaten badly by The
Mandarin.
And he just keeps on going! And it’s so amazing as to how
he constantly survives all those near-lethal injuries, without
fear of his enemies. And by building some remote controlled
robotic duplicates of his armor, this makes it possible in some
ways, if not all, to conceal his secret identity even better
than Peter Parker can as Spider-Man.
It’s quite right that Iron Man is in some ways the Marvel
version of DC’s Batman, but unlike Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark does
have some differences:
Unlike Batman, the injuries he suffered have more often
been physical than emotional.
Unlike Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark is much more open and part
of society than the former is, and he much more of a ladies'
man, and among the gals he’s swept off their feet, there’s also
Carol Danvers/Warbird.
Unlike Batman, Iron Man is much more of a traveller, and
he’s probably worked outside of New York much more than Batman
has out of Gotham City, as well as travelling into space a lot
more often too.
I’ll probably take a look at Busiek’s story explaining the
fate of the teenaged Tony, but overall, no, that colossal goof
won’t be missed. It’s so great to have our suitably 30ish Tony
Stark back, and I thank Kurt Busiek, whose work I’ve hugely
enjoyed on the Avengers, for setting the record straight again.
While we’re on the subject of iron, […] made a good
recommendation with the Iron Giant, to which I thought I’d add
some recommended reviews.
The movie's Web site:
http://www.theirongiant.com/
And next the reviews:
The Austin Chronicle:
http://www.auschron.com/film/pages/movies/8752.html
The Detroit News:
http://detnews.com/1999/entertainment/0806/mgiant/mgiant.htm
The Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/videos/irongianthunter.htm
The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle:
http://www.rochestergoesout.com/mov/i/irongi.html
The Cincinnati Post:
http://www.cincypost.com/living/1999/giant080699.html
The Indianapolis Star:
http://query.starnews.com/movies/search.html?action=re&mid=42613
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette:
http://www.ardemgaz.com/cgi/showreview.pl?The+Iron+Giant
The Providence Journal:
http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/movies/films/irong.htm
The Chicago Sun-Times:
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1999/08/080602.html
The Iron Giant was a very good cartoon movie that contains
a lot of great messages that even Disney cartoons haven’t been
able to offer. And one the best comic-related parts is where
Hogarth Hughes shows the robot his Superman comics. I too would
very much recommend it. And also, seeing that you enjoyed the
movie of Josie and the Pussycats, I’ve got several reviews that
I can add to that as well. For example:
The movie's Web site:
http://www.josiethemovie.com
Minneapolis Star Tribune:
http://www.startribune.com/viewers/qview/cgi/qview.cgi?template=free_article&slug=jos11
Courier-Journal (Louisville, KY):
http://www.louisvillescene.com/movies/rev2001/20010412josieand.html
Cincinnati Enquirer and Post:
http://www.cincinnati.com/freetime/movies/mcgurk/041301_jossieandthepussycats.html
http://www.cincypost.com/2001/apr/11/cats041101.html
The Detroit News:
http://detnews.com/2001/entertainment/0104/11/c03-210426.htm
Detroit Metro Times:
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/review.asp?id=47852
Star-Ledger (Newark, NJ):
http://www.nj.com/movies/index.ssf?/movies/reviews/josie.html
Austin Chronicle:
http://www.auschron.com/film/pages/movies/23349.html
LA Weekly:
http://www.laweekly.com/film/film_results.php3?showid=1519
Los Angeles Daily Star:
http://63.147.65.28/socal/film/review/0401/11/mov01.asp
Toronto Star:
http://king.thestar.com/thestar/editorial/movies/full_reviews/MO-JOSIE_20010411.html
New York Post:
http://www.nypost.com/movies/041101b.htm
The Providence Journal:
http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/movies/films/josie.htm
I hope this isn’t too much for you. Have fun.
Thanks for the links, Avi! As to Iron Man, I shudder to
remember the Teen Tony storyline, back when Marvel & DC were
infected with some sort of mania to de-age or replace their
characters with younger ones in search of some elusive
teen/twentysomething demographic (not only Iron Man, but Green
Lantern, Green Arrow, The Atom and probably some others I've
forgotten).
I have nothing against twentysomething characters, but there are
ought to be SOME variety. If I want to read about a beginner
superhero, there's Green Lantern; if I want to read about a
struggling, young-adult hero, there's Spider-Man -- but there
ought to be a book about adult situations, too, and that book
ought to be Iron Man. In fact, I wouldn't mind if Tony hit his
forties -- after all, he was a founding member of SHIELD's Board
of Directors back in '65, an exclusive club of high-powered
politicos and industrial leaders -- probably not a one of whom was
under 50. They don't invite wet-behind-the-ears types into those
smoke-filled rooms, and even if Tony was a prodigy, he wouldn't
have been there if he wasn't deemed mature enough. I say write him
as if he's pushing 40 (or over), which in no way obviates his
success with women or in industry -- in fact, it would probably
accentuate it.
Say, what’s this? He’s defending GL's
rendition circa the 90s despite all the botched setups circa Emerald
Twilight? Gee, even I didn’t try acting so sloppy when I wrote that
letter! How come he didn’t cite The Flash instead? Or, how come he
can’t distinguish between good and bad efforts to replace older
protagonist creations with newer ones?
Dear Captain: I agree with you, I thought Josie &
The Pussycats was a pretty good movie too. Not great, but pretty
good.
I'm not exactly a teenager either. Well, let's put it this
way; I'm just a couple of years older than [name withheld].
[withheld], of course, is "Mr. Know-It-All" of the Legion of
Superfluous Heroes, and author of a number of movie/TV
encyclopedias.
And it's disturbing to be an adult and like Josie, isn't it? We
aren't exactly the target audience! But it was fun little piece of
fluff.
All this from somebody who doesn’t think
it’s disturbing to love a book like Identity Crisis, which features
anal rape from a nearly 1st-person perspective in the second issue.
By contrast, I don’t find it too disturbing to like Josie at all,
since at the time, it was a movie done with far better respect for
the female persuasion. Now for May 9, 2001:
Dear Captain: I think that this kind of debate played
out in the comic-book realm would really be a great story if
done right. Y'know, some kind of crossover (logically done in
this case), between all the books that (Barbara) is directly
involved in, like the Batman books, Nightwing, JLA (though
played down since Mark Waid's run) and Birds of Prey. I'm
tempted to write in and tell DC about it.
Thanks for letting me rant once again. This is so much fun and
reading how other people react to these debates really keeps me
hopping.
It is fun, isn't it? And some correspondents have already
responded -- proving no debate is ever over in fandom! To wit:
The sad thing is, in the past decade,
there’s been cases of comic book dialogue written like a whole
debate on a message board, taking away considerably from whatever
value a story has. The Oracle debate may be interesting, but it’s
not something DC would be able to handle in a comic proper.
Dear Cap: I was reading the latest letter on Oracle's
garnishing money from Blockbuster. Indeed it is an interesting
debate!
But imagine if or when Chuck Dixon decides to resolve it.
What would happen if Blockbuster found out about his money being
stolen and who was responsible?
Of course we can assume no matter what Babs would survive
because BoP wouldn't exist without both her and Dinah but she'd
be left in a quandary. Odds are BB would set up greater security
for his funds upon learning this which would prevent her from
using them unless she could get around his protective measures.
So where would Babs turn to for cash? Garnish off another
supervillian or look to other options (and I don't mean stocks
because they're just too unpredictable to give her the constant
source of money she needs)? I can't imagine her begging Batman
even though he likely has enough money to fund New York City for
a year.
I'm sure he'd be more than willing to help her but it would
go too far against the independence she's set up for herself.
Actually, Dixon DID resolve the issue after a fashion; there was a
four-part crossover storyline called "Hunt for Oracle!" that ran
through Birds of Prey #20-21 and Nightwing #45-46. Read no further
if you don't want to know how it turned out.
Still with me? OK, in "Hunt for Oracle!", Blockbuster captured and
tortured Nightwing and hired some previously established computer
hackers (a character called Mouse and her associates -- and, yes,
Mouse dressed like a mouse for no good reason) to hunt down the
mysterious Oracle who was stealing his money. There were some
fairly clever bits, as you saw exactly how hard it is to track
Oracle through her various dummy servers and whatnot, and in the
end, with Barbara "cornered," she had diverted Blockbuster &
Co. to an abandoned submarine in Gotham harbor, tricked out to
look like Oracle's lair. Leaving aside for a moment how few cities
have abandoned submarines floating unused and unguarded in the
harbor, it did allow Barbara some physical "action," as she used
the enclosed space (and relative darkness) in the sub to limit her
opponents' mobility and somewhat even the odds as she battled
desperately against professional killers.
It didn't address your question -- what would Barbara do if her
"sin tax" was curtailed? -- but it did finally allow Barbara and
Black Canary a chance to meet face-to-face. Canary showed up to
help Barbara out -- and to make the outcome of the inequal battle
more plausible -- and, for the record, Dinah surrendered herself
to Blockbuster as "Oracle," so Barbara's secret remains safe. And
Blockbuster thinks the "garnishing" problem has been solved.
Look who’s talking about no good reasons!
The same man who won’t admit Identity Crisis was chock full of them.
Come to think of it, he wouldn’t even admit Avengers: Disassembled
was too, and never gave a meaty explanation in his columns. So,
how’s anyone supposed to know it was worse than he said it was?
Re: Kavalier & Clay, Superman & The Golem
Dear Cap: Actually, the Golem legend is the centerpiece of
the first part of Kavalier & Clay, and Chabon makes the
superhero/Golem connection very explicit. And while the
Holocaust wasn't a reality yet when Superman, etc., were
created, the persecution of Jews in Eastern European ghettos
(where Joe Kavalier and the families of so many real-life comics
creators were from) had been a reality for decades (the pogroms,
etc.), hence the diaspora that brought so many of them to the
United States.
As for Houdini being an inspiration for Batman, in all the
writing I've read about how Kane and Finger came up with Batman
(way too much), I've never seen Houdini mentioned. I think the
connection Chabon is trying to make is how Houdini was more than
an escape artist -- he was, literally, a superman. When people
ask how Houdini did all his stunts, the answer is usually that
he fought his way out of those traps. Sure, there were tricks
and cheats employed, but most of it was by dint of pure physical
ability -- the man was a bona-fide physical marvel. The
conceptual leap to a man who can leap an eighth of a mile and
lift automobiles above his head is not difficult. (And it helps
that Houdini -- the son of a rabbi -- grew up in the shadow of
the Jewish immigration.)
One more reason to read Kavalier & Clay! How much The Golem
(or the diaspora) affected Joe Shuster & Jerry Siegel's
creative process is something I can only imagine, as I've never
read anything to assert it one way or the other. As to Houdini and
Batman, I've seen the name touted here and there as one of
Batman's inspirations -- but again, I don't remember anything
specific to Bob Kane, so we'll just have to speculate.
Alas, Chabon’s work is overrated. I’d
strongly recommend Will Eisner’s work instead, because he had
understandings of awful ideologies like communism that provoke more
thought than Chabon ever will. I don’t know if the Golem had any
influence on Superman, although it certainly did have some on Ben
Grimm, of the Fantastic Four.
Dear Cap: [...] (though he didn't have to look very
hard this time): You're probably going to be asked about it this
week, so I'd like to know your take on this, Frank Miller's
keynote speech last Friday in Pittsburgh to open this year's
Harvey Awards ceremony:
http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/kdreger/articles/miller_wizard.htm
Also on the front page of http://www.comicon.com/splash/ as
I write this.
I thought actually being there would have been a great,
just to see Miller perform and articulate all this. It also
seems to be a bit tinged with some residual bitterness after his
"Michael Jordan-does-minor-league-baseball"-like stint as a
Hollywood screenwriter on Robocop 2 & 3. However, I do think
he is spot on with his sentiment that comics are STILL an
unbreakable matrix of creativity, as shown by the Harvey
nominees, and that comics should not take a back seat to anyone,
whether it be the crushing machine of the Hollywood "production
process" or the yoke of anti-productive "publicity" from the
likes of Wizard Magazine.
Needless to say, my sympathies lie with Miller -- no matter how
self-serving his rant may or may not have been -- than with the
Hollywood "suits" that defile all they touch, and the relentless,
deliberate and self-satisfied immaturity of Wizard.
But the uncomforable subtext of what I heard is that 1) comics
really aren't mainstream, and probably never will be, and 2) if
they BECOME mainstream, then they'll be just like TV and movies --
safe, uncreative and run by smarmy thugs in suits who are always
looking at the bottom line. Of course, there are those who'd argue
that's exactly what the industry is like, anyway.
That's what popped into my head as I read Miller's rant. I'd like
to hear what others have to say.
Meanwhile, […] followed through with Wizard's response:
Re: Wizard responds to Frank Miller!
http://news.wizardworld.com/Comics/CB0502-Wizardresponds.asp
Frank Miller is a legend in the comics industry. Precisely
because of his stature, it's strangely gratifying and hurtful
that he imputes so much power and malice to our magazine,
Wizard: The Comics Magazine. During his keynote speech at the
Harvey Awards at the Pittsburgh Comicon, he describes, among
other things, the trials and tribulations of dealing with
Hollywood: the potential to make money, the likelihood that your
product will be changed by a studio's needs (or perceived
needs), and the fact that once you're no longer important to
them, you're thrown into the "ignore" bin.
We at Wizard deal with thousands of comic creators
throughout the year who want to -- or who have -- these
concerns, and concerns similar to this. These creators, like
Frank, are struggling to put out the best product they can. I
believe Wizard offers these creators the best chance to be seen
by anyone -- by fans, by Frank's "Hollywood establishment," and
by people in Frank's "real world." And ultimately, that's a very
good thing.
Wizard Entertainment makes huge efforts and risks millions
of dollars every year to make sure that the comic book industry
has the greatest outreach to new readers possible. Wizard is on
the newsstands every month, many times in places that no longer
carry comics themselves. Our goal is to always, always push
readers to buy books, and find their local comic shop. We're
often successful in that goal, which is good for everyone.
Why is Wizard successful in both our industry and the "real
world" to which Frank refers? I believe, and the "real world"
seems to concur, that it's a great product. Wizard is bright,
funny, thoughtful, and clearly provocative. What else does our
industry need from a consumer magazine? If the "Hollywood
insiders" read Wizard (or pay people to read Wizard, as Frank
contends) but don't read comics themselves, I find myself in a
quandary. Haven't we done our job? Hasn't Wizard gotten them
interested in the very ideas and creations that are the heart
and soul of our industry?
Wizard is a very well-respected magazine throughout the
professional world. Does that make us an easy target? Sure. Is
it fair to the guys who write and design Wizard, who pour their
hearts and souls into the magazine every month, to call them
"Satan?" I don't think so. Make no mistake, Wizard is a great
and successful magazine because everyone involved cares so much
about the magazine, about comic books, about the people who
create comic books, and most especially, the final arbiter, the
people that actually read and buy comic books.
Thousands of people in our industry are involved in the
creation of Wizard. Every month, Frank Miller is always welcome
to participate in its creation and has been invited to on many
occasions. Sometimes he does, and sometimes he doesn't. But just
as all the creators in the industry are free to create their
products their way, we at Wizard are free to create our product
our way. It seems only right. We're proud of our product.
As Frank has pointed out, for better or for worse, Wizard
has become an ambassador for the comic book industry. For those
who are unhappy, you are welcome to become more involved.
Otherwise, we will continue to put out the highest quality
monthly publication about comics we can, working with the
industry professionals that share our passion for promoting
comics on a worldwide scale.
Fred Pierce
President-Wizard Entertainment
Frankly, I'm flabbergasted. This is an imposing and striking
letter.
For one thing, in my 10 years working in comics journalism, I've
never seen a letter like this. No misspellings. No verb/subject
disagreements. No lost antecedents. No misuse of hyphens,
apostrophes, semi-colons or ellipses. Nothing. This is a perfect
letter. I had to do zero copy editing on this letter. Stylistic
differences, yes -- I hyphenate "comic book" when I consider it a
compound adjective -- but otherwise, simply perfect.
And the content! Ye gods! Wizard is positioned as a champion of
the oppressed! A hero to the industry! A white knight, doing
battle with the forces of evil on a daily basis, with rabid dogs
like Frank Miller nagging at their heels! Gee whiz, give these
guys a break! And sign me up at the recruitment center! This
letter is BRILLIANT!
And, of course, laughable. Content-wise, Wizard is a peurile,
adolescent, self-important piece of fluff full of fart jokes and
whiney self-aggrandizment that underscores the contempt the comics
industry has for itself, and other industries have for comics. It
makes a fetish of positioning its staffers -- none of whom have
written, drawn or edited a comic book -- as celebrities on the
level of, oh, a Frank Miller. This letter disengenuously suggests
that the magazine is something that created people like Frank
Miller, instead of a magazine that sells because of people like
Frank Miller. An "ambassador" that makes the whole thing possible.
And Frank is "welcome to participate" in an industry that he and
other like him are pretty much holding up single-handedly. Oh,
sorry, was FRANK somehow involved? It's WIZARD that's somehow
putting out tremendous comics that have kept the industry alive!
Oh, silly me -- it's not the CREATORS who are doing the work here,
it's the REVIEWERS who are the driving force of the industry -- in
fact, its "ambassadors!"
For Pete's sake -- I've been a comic-book journalist for 10 years,
and have never confused myself with someone who actually creates
comic books. Frank Miller creates something. I talk about what he
creates. In the grand scheme of things, I'm a flea on Frank
Miller's back getting a free ride ... and so is Wizard. But my
circulation is bigger. :)
Whoever Fred Pierce is, I doff my cap to him. He deserves a raise,
Mr. Shamus! I am genuinely impressed!
Oh, does he really talk about Miller’s
output? He never did when Holy Terror went to press, and I find that
telling. Come to think of it, he never spoke about Will Eisner’s
last GN either, which deals with similar issues.
Wizard is no champion of the oppressed, but then neither is Mr.
Smith, because like them, there’s many bad ideas coming out of the
big two today he won’t condemn, like DC’s monstrosity of 2004, or
Marvel’s from 2006.
Dear Cap: My wife just finished reading Superman #170
and it moved her nearly to tears. She rushed home to hug our own
dog, Buster, and promise to never send him away. The main story
was strong enough by itself, but what topped it off was the cute
puppy material allegedly provided by Kyle Rayner.
Have you ever had a dog of your own? It's apparent that
Clark didn't realize how much attention would be required to
keep Krypto happy and emotionally healthy. I'm not suggesting
that Clark isn't responsible -- his sense of responsibility is
above reproach, even to the point of sending his dog away when
he realized what happened (and could happen again). But he never
had a dog as a child on the farm, did he? He's never been part
of a dog's "pack" or experienced a canine's special need for
social order and interaction. He probably didn't realize humans
have to adapt to dogs as much as dogs adapts to us.
Because I just can't help thinking how irresponsible it was
for Clark to even consider keeping a superdog to begin with.
Let's face it, Clark has no regular schedule -- he can expect to
rush off without a moment's notice to save the world, in
addition to whatever journalistic obligations he has to meet.
Lois's schedule isn't much better (she's only human, after all;
I expect she works harder as a journalist than her husband).
When could he ever commit time to train Krypto to be a good dog
in a human world? And how could he expect an obviously active
dog to remain passively content in such a small apartment?
I know he didn't have a lot of choice in the adoption, but
it still bothers me. Legally, pets are property. They aren't
human, and it would be a mistake to treat them as miniature
people. But they're also living, breathing responsibilities, due
some small measure of respect and care just because they're
alive. And leaving a dog alone, with or without a robot, just
isn't fair to the dog.
A solitary dog is a pitiful creature; they need pack
stability. One of the worst things you can do to a dog is to
derprive it of social interaction. What he's done is the
super-equivalent of chaining Krypto to a tree in the back yard.
I sincerely hope Clark finds a better home for his dog soon, OR
commits to appropriate canine training (Krypto is the world's
smartest dog, after all; he would probably learn very, very
quickly).
I hope the story has a happy ending, but I fear for the
worst.
Oh, no. No, no, no. I haven't read Superman #170 yet, and now I'm
afraid to.
My dog is asleep beneath my chair as I write this. I give her as
much love, attention and interaction as I possibly can. It rips my
heart right out of my chest when I have to go to work -- and she
sees the keys and gives me that despairing look. My wife and I, in
addition to being her "pack," are her entire World. No toy can
replace us, no amount of guilt food can alleviate her suffering
when we're gone. It's estimated that the majority of health
problems dogs in America suffer from are caused by ... loneliness.
Dogs require social interaction, or they just die.
I don't think I can stand to read Superman #170. I'll have to work
up to it.
In that case, how come he could stand to
read Identity Crisis, including the 1st-person perspective view seen
in the second issue? What a phony, and the correspondent is too. I
recall he penned some anti-war farrago in a weekly paper, leading me
to make clear that Iraqis/Arabs/women who suffered under Saddam’s
rule are living, breathing people too, and he sees them as animals?
Speaking of which, for somebody worried about dogs, if he is, he
sure isn’t worried about the Islamic religion’s degrading view of
canines.
Dear Captain Comics: I saw your column in Comics
Buyer's Guide #1434 regarding "the dumbest comic book you ever
read" -- Marvel Team-Up #28, featuring Spider-Man and Hercules
in "The City Stealers!", the classically bad tale in which some
anonymous villain moves Manhattan out to sea, and Hercules tows
it back.
I wouldn't call it the dumbest comic I ever read (after
all, there are a LOT of Silver Age Superman, Action Comics,
Superboy and Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane issues that
qualify) but that story certainly rates high. Plus, you did a
fine job pointing out many -- but not all -- of the holes in the
story. Let me mention two more:
A look at a map will show that Manhattan is too wide to fit
between Staten Island and Brooklyn, and
A look at the famous two-page spread from the story showing
Hercules towing the island with Really Big Chains shows that
they are attached to the south end ... which means he put it
back FACING THE WRONG WAY!
They definitely don't make 'em like that any more, thank
goodness.
Good points, [name withheld]. Marvel Team-Up #28 -- which is
reiterated in large part in the Silly Moments in Comics History
section -- isn't really the "dumbest story I ever read." As I said
in the column, it was just the first story I remember throwing
down in disgust, having reached an age where my cognitive
faculties were kicking in. But it really ranks up there, doesn't
it?
I’d be tempted to say Mr. Smith was the
dumbest columnist I’ve ever read, but I think that honor is best
bestowed elsewhere. What I do know is that Identity Crisis is one of
the most offensive, disgusting and bigoted comic tales ever
published, allegedly about superheroes, but Mr. Smith sure doesn’t
think so.
Dear Mr. Smith: I was very disapointed to read the
sidebar to your column in CBG #1434 (May 11) titled "Canceled
Comics Cavalcade Comments". In it, you chose to print the
comments of [name withheld], praising your prior negative review
of the canceled DC/Vertigo comic Deadenders (See Canceled Comics
Cavalcade). Both you and […] are fully entitled to your negative
opinions of the book. However, by printing the comments of a
reader who agrees with you instead of one voicing a contrary
position, you violate a common rule of editorial fairness.
Although sales on Deadenders were obviously poor enough for
the book to be canceled, there were certainly some readers
buying and enjoying the book. Commenting negatively TWICE on a
canceled book is beating up on a dying horse. Surely ONCE is
enough! I for one looked forward to Deadenders each month, and
found it one of the more enjoyable books on the stands. I also
found the art very attractive and appealing.
Thanks for the defense of Deadenders, [withheld] -- and especially
for the polite tone of your letter. I find your use of common
civility in disagreement to be a refreshing change from the
junkyard dogs snarling at each other on the Internet bulletin
boards.
And, naturally, I don't want to violate "a common rule of
editorial fairness." Not only are you correct, but in the words of
Monty Python, if I break the unwritten law, you'd have no choice
but to nail my head to the floor. And then screw my hip to the
coffee table.
Anyway, I'm certainly aware that there was a dedicated following
for Deadenders -- in fact, I said so in my initial CCC remarks --
just not one big enough to support the title. The fact is, your
letter was the only one to arrive in support of Deadenders. Since
I can't run every letter, I try to pick ones that are
representative of what I do get -- and […]'s letter reflected the
many letters I got from those disappointed with the title (as well
as being the most concise and the best written).
But fair's fair, and now that I HAVE a letter in support of
Deadenders, I present it herewith. Good enough?
And as long as we're fielding complaints:
I’m sure there’s a lot of meatier issues
raised by some correspondents he’s never printed either, so this one
needn’t have felt left out. After his original site was
discontinued, he stopped running pages reprinting reader letters,
and just relied on a mostly left-wing forum for everything. And most
of the leftists I allude to simply weren’t very morally reliable,
that’s for sure. I know we’ve come a long way in web technology, but
still, some old fashioned ideas are still valid…assuming they’ll
respect dissenters with political correctness.
Hi, Cap! In response to a message in your Mailbag,
you make an affirmation which doesn't represent the absolute
truth. I'll quote:
<<For my part, I suspect that without Superman to
establish huge sales and a large infrastructure in the early
'40s, the comic book would have disappeared in the late '40s
when the novelty (and sales) fell off. Some other form of heroic
fiction would probably have surfaced -- you can trace the genre
back from pulps to penny dreadfuls to The Iliad to Gilgamesh to
Beowulf to cave paintings -- but it probably wouldn't be our
familiar, four-color pamphlets. By extension, the comic book
wouldn't exist in France, Japan, or elsewhere, since they got
the format/concept from us.>>
About your first argument, although superhero comics were the
main genre published in the '40s they were FAR from being the
only one. And just after the war, the crime and horror comics
easily surpassed them. If U.S. comics survived the war, they
would easily get into the '50s (and them the Comics Code would
probably destroy them, but we are making a lot of assumptions
already).
For your second argument, the French and Japanese comics
were NOT based on American comic books. They were mostly based
on American comic STRIPS, so much that the superhero genre is
rare in Japan (DragonBall is an exception) and unheard-of in
France (except for U.S. comics reprints).
Do not overestimate the importance of American superhero
comics. They weren't published in most foreign countries until
the '50s and '60s, when both the European and Japanese
industries were already in formation.
You make some interesting clarifications, […] -- but,
respectfully, I'll stick with what I said. I never said the
superhero genre was the only one in the '40s, just that characters
like Superman and Captain Marvel -- which sold in the MILLIONS --
were primarily responsible for making the industry profitable
enough for a huge publishing and distibution infrastructure to
spring up. Without Superman's success to piggyback on, war and
crime comics would have been more expensive to produce and
distribute -- and likely no one would have bothered for long.
And, while I may overstated the case in reference to France,
Japanese comics were definitely based on the U.S. model. Comics
books and baseball were two cultural items deliberately and
specifically transplanted to Japan during the American post-War
occupation -- and neither existed in Nippon before that. I never
specified what genre was introduced, only that the form was -- and
I'm afraid that's it a matter of historical record that the
American comic book was high on Gen. MacArthur's list of things he
thought would "Americanize" Japanese society so that democracy
would find fertile soil.
Of course he overstated on France, yet at
the same time, he fails to note westerns were something that had a
bit of influence in La Republique. The one I can best think of now
would probably be Lucky Luke, and that was meant to be a
comedy/parody. And that never occurred to him, did it?
Dear Cap: Many world-domination schemes, crimes and
misdemeanors have been stopped early in their tracks because
villains chose to play with their captives instead of going on
with the follow-through. Failing to dispose of their opponents,
they have "aided" in their last-minute escapes. No one wins all
of the time and that is evident when you look at the number of
heroines who have been tied up on the covers and inside pages of
comic books. Somehow, for some reason or another, drawings of
well-defined women draped in Spandex, junglewear, etc., and
trussed up have been making their eye-catching appearances
throughout the industry's history.
Hmmm, I wonder why?
Portrayal Of Women In Comics:
http://www.public.asu.edu/~alykat/school/comics.htm
No idea, […]. My mind's a blank.
It’s also a blank on why Identity Crisis
had such a resolutely male viewpoint!
Dear Cap: As to why (GI Joe) was stopped, I feel it
had to do with the quality of the material. The sales on Joe
toys were down, I suspect because they had been becoming pretty
dorky. The Marvel comic book, which for a long time was one of
the best-written titles out there, mirrored the toy line and the
last couple of years were, well, pretty dorky. As for the Dark
Horse version, GI Joe Extreme, it looked so bad from the get-go
that I never picked up an issue.
The resurgence of interest in GI Joe ties directly in to
the same phenomenon that we discussed a few months ago with the
Transformers. The biggest difference is that the toy company is
handling it better. They're re-releasing many of the older
vehicles and 3.5-inch figures. They've re-named the vehicles --
don't know why -- and put them in spiffy new packaging. The
figures are available in affordable, themed three-packs. If I
were at all interested anymore, I'd be blowing my "allowance" on
them!
By the way, don't even think of getting between a Masters
of the Universe figure and a fanboy who needs it. They're REALLY
obsessive.
<<Aunt May, on the other hand, has been UN-buried. --
Captain Comics>>
Okay. My recent compaint about how Mary Jane's return was
handled? Nothing compared to how stupid and insulting I found
the return of Aunt May. Calling whoever came up with that stupid
is an insult to stupid people everywhere. It was beyond stupid.
It was poorly thought out and insulting. Insulting to the
readers and insulting to the creators that did such a fine job
on the issue wherein Aunt May died.
No argument on Aunt May.
And, just for fun, an old GI Joe anecdote: I got a "frogman" GI
Joe figure for my sixth birthday in 1964, which was held on the
beach at Lake Michigan. I took the rubber-suited figure for a dive
with me in the dead-fish-infested lake of the time. His joints
instantly rusted. Ditto with my "Deep-Sea Diver" Joe, which I took
in the bathtub with me. Those figures-- and most of the others --
were eventually eaten by my dog, a Scottish Terrier named Smorgie.
God, she hated those little homunculi. She learned to unlatch the
footlocker with her nose, and "killed" them all before I came home
from school one day.
I distinctly recall this correspondent was
okay with Identity Crisis, and clearly didn’t consider that the
miniseries was an insult to victims of rape and child abuse
everywhere. His inference that GI Joe toys were becoming “dorky”
also bores me, because those toys – if not the comics – were for
kids! In any case, most of the toys produced even then were nowhere
near as bad in design as the writing was becoming in superhero
comics. I’m skeptical he cares much about Mary Jane as a character
either.
Dear Cap: Heavens, this gets complicated. But
"complicated" seems to be what comics are all about these days.
I mean, have you ever tried to explain Supergirl to a non-fan?
"Well, she was this proto-matter being from a pocket universe,
who was allied with someone named Lex Luthor, only not the Lex
Luthor you might know -- this one was a good guy. But when she
came to Earth, she took on the form of an adult Supergirl, which
I guess would make her Superwoman, only that was some other
character, except that she no longer exists, most likely. But
not only the form of an adult Supergirl, but she also looked
like Lana Lang. But later she looked more like the old
Supergirl, but she hooked up with the 'real' Lex Luthor, because
she didn't realize he was a crook, but later she did. And still
later she merged with the body of a dead teenager named Linda
Danvers, but now she knows that she is really an Earth-born
angel."
Good night! "Earth-born angels"? "Proto-matter beings"?
"Pocket universes"? Who can relate to any of that nonsense? How
much simpler it would be to say, "Supergirl? Oh, she's Superman
cousin, that's who she is." Well, don't most people have
cousins? Can't they relate to that a heck of a lot more than
they can to Earth-born angels and all that other rot?
Well, just my favorite rant of late. Thanks for listening.
And I enjoy listening. I also enjoy Supergirl, but I was always
uncomfortable with the Earth-born angel aspect, as I am about any
story that borders on establishing an "official religion" for DC
Comics. But I was also uneasy about the sheer complexity of her
origin -- not because I ever expected to explain it to anybody,
but because even I got confused sometimes!
Suuuuurrrre Mr. Smith is uncomfy.
His support for Identity Crisis contradicts what he said nearly 15
years ago. Of course explaining the post-Crisis setups is
problematic, but even after they brought back Kara Zor-El, they
trashed a big chance to make it really worth something.
Dear Cap: Appropos of nothing, in addition to being a
comics fan, I'm also a WWF fan. (I particularly enjoyed Chaos!
Comics' WWF-related efforts). Anyway, if you're at Blockbuster
and don't know what to rent, spare a few bucks for the WWF 1998
King of the Ring Pay-per-View. Most of the card is forgettable,
but the Mankind-Undertaker "Hell in a Cell" match is one of the
most astonishing things ever committed to videotape. In addition
to leaving one amazed (and horrified) at Mick Foley's ability to
absorb punishment, it also presents the closest thing to what a
"superhero" battle would look like in real life that I've ever
seen. It makes you realize how much it would actually hurt to be
a superhero. However, I should say: It is not for the squeamish!
Having seen the fall Mick took from the top of the cage in
that match, made me think of the old story of the kid that was
playing Superman and broke his leg (or worse) trying to fly. I
remember hearing it as a cautionary tale as a kid, but I wonder
if it actually happened or if it's just another urban legend?
I can't speak to the urban legend, since I've never seen any hard
evidence in many years in newspapers. I suspect it is, as you say,
something your mother says to keep you from jumping off the garage
roof with a towel around your neck (which, incidentally, I did).
As to WWF and comics, this month sees Chaos! Comics's latest
effort in that regard, The Rock #1. Not my cup of tea, but I hope
you have enormous fun.
And lastly, you bring up something I've always wondered about: the
sheer brutality of a typical superhero's life. Why don't more
superheroes show up to their civilian work (or school) covered in
bruises? Why aren't they all toothless and concussed? I hit my
head a few weeks ago, the second time I had a concussion in my
life, and it resulted in four days in the hospital. What about
characters who are routinely "knocked unconscious" by gun butts to
the head? (James West of Wild, Wild West leaps to mind here --
happened every episode.) Recently, an NFL quarterback was forced
to retire (or consider it anyway -- I don't remember the details)
due to repetitive head injuries -- what does that say about
Batman?
The Bat-characters in particular are very physical, and even
BLOCKING a blow leaves a bruise. Why aren't superheroes nursing
wounds -- and having to explain them -- more often? I know that
Bruce Wayne writes off his injuries due to clumsiness, drunkenness
and an active, sloppy lifestyle (skiing, polo, etc.), but what
about Robin? Peter Parker? Night Thrasher? Nightwing? Black
Canary? Star-Spangled Kid? The list goes on and on, and you'd
think -- particularly in the case of minors -- that there would be
a lot of serious questions asked. And why do they all stay so
pretty? Even Muhammad Ali suffered a broken nose or two. Bruce
Wayne and Matt Murdock ought to look like aging boxers.
And I guess he never saw any hard evidence
of bad fanfiction writing in Identity Crisis either, did he? And
what’s the use of arguing about why heroes in a surreal world don’t
suffer significant bruises unlike real life? The same goes for age,
or lack thereof.
Dear Cap: Someone once asked as to why the Luthor of
the Christopher Reeve Superman movies was depicted employing
such incompetent allies -- i.e., Otis (Ned Beatty). I guess it
could be that a master villain would use less-intelligent
accomplices because, if they used intelligent accomplices, then
the intelligent accomplice might try to betray them or try to
take over the scheme to make himself the boss. An unintelligent
accomplice would not think of doing this.
Actually, people were surprised that Luthor was not more
menacing in those Reeve films. The answer I can give is probably
what happened was that the people making those films decided
that, with the Adam West Batman TV show having come out within
the last 11 years, and the fact that few sci-fi/fantasy
adventure films had been attempted before other than low-budget
serials, it would be neccessary to treat the more sytlized or
fantastic elements of the Superman movies with a high degree of
respect -- and note that General Zod was treated as being very
menacing and commanding in the first two Superman films (he was
actually in both, although he had only a cameo in the first
one). This is because General Zod is more of a stylized,
fantastic charachter, and so it was probably felt that he would
have to be played straight.
Luthor, on the other hand, is a relatively prosaic
character. (In the first two films, notice that Luthor, other
than a hologram, does not invent any especially fantastic device
or weapon.) While there had been few (if any) big-budget movies
with villains similar to General Zod before 1978's Superman,
there had been plenty of big-budget thriller movies with
characters similar to Luthor by the time the first Christopher
Reeve Superman movie came out. So it was probably felt that,
since Luthor was something that had already been done in a
big-budget movie, he would not have to be played as straight as
Zod or Superman.
Interesting insight, […]. There's no way to tell, of course,
unless one of the Salkinds or Mario Puzo or somebody steps up and
says so.
Interestingly, the original question about why the movie Lex
Luthor hired idiots was brought up by ... the movie Lex Luthor!
("Why does the most brilliant criminal mind of our time surround
himself with morons?" -- Superman I) It seemed self-explanatory to
me -- someone as convinced of their own brilliance (who, as you
noted, never did anything particularly brilliant) and as
egotistical as the Gene Hackman Luthor would hire morons to make
himself feel smarter by comparison. But maybe that's just me.
If Mr. Smith were in a position like
Lex’s, he’d be the less intelligent one, while his minions would be
smarter. And if he were in General Zod’s position, he’d expect you
to kneel before his propagandistic might. Shudder, shudder, tremble,
tremble.
Hey Cap: Been a while since I dropped a line and I
thought I would throw in my two percent of a dollar on a few
items from the Q&A and the Mailbag:
[name withheld] sez:
<<I dropped out of the Marvel world back when Ned Leeds
was revealed as the Hobgoblin. Apparently, I've missed a great
deal.>>
I had also dropped out of comics for the most part somewhere
back in the late '80s, early '90s, and appreciated the info on
Aunt May's "deaths." Having killed her off, however, I wish that
the powers-that-be would have left her dead. I don't have
anything against Aunt May, but the trend of resurrecting every
character that kicks off makes death in the Marvel Universe
completely trivial and robs a death-story of any emotional
content (and annoys the heck out of me!).
How can I get worked up over a character's demise when I
know he or she is just going to come back a dozen issues down
the road? I can't! Not to mention that a character's
resurrection will frequently invalidate an emotionally poignant
storyline (re: the returns of Jean Grey and Norman Osborn), but
even gratuitous deaths for shock value (re: the death of Iron
Fist at the end of the Power Man & Iron Fist series) should
be left alone once the die has been cast.
Oh well. At least Aunt May didn't turn out to be a clone
... (yet?)
Anyway, I wanted to ask, since, like Perry, I have only
sporadically been following comics for quite a while, what's the
deal with the Hobgoblin? I've heard something recently that it
wasn't actually Ned Leeds? How can that be, when he was killed
in the Hobgoblin costume?
Captain Comics sez:
<<I dunno if Ludwig Von Drake was related to Donald or
not.>>
Ludwig Von Drake was indeed related to Donald. According to The
Official Encyclopedia, Disney A to Z, by Dave Smith, Ludwig was
"Donald Duck's erudite, eccentric uncle." He emceed a total of
18 television shows, starting with Walt Disney's Wonderful World
of Color in 1961.
Captain Comics sez:
<<Huey, Dewey & Louie were his nephews (although I
always harbored the suspicion that they were Daisy's
illegitimate children).>>
Now don't go starting any evil rumors! Seems like people will
believe just about anything, no matter how unlikely, if it's
attached to Disney in some way ... HD&L's mother was
Dumbella Duck, Donald's sister. It's never been revealed who
their father was.
Re, Silly Super-Names, Troia, [name withheld] sez:
<<Writer/artist George) Perez gave her a new origin
(hasn't she set the record for new origins?) and established
that the Titan gods named her Troy -- fine so far -- but when
she starts her rebooted super-career, (her name) mysteriously
becomes "Troia," and not "Troy." What's a Troia?>>
Troia is another name for the city of Troy. Not that this makes
it any less useless as a super-name. It would be like if a
character whose identity was somehow connected to my home town
were to adopt the super-name of "Los Angeles." Not very "super,"
if you ask me.
Captain Comics sez:
<<Further, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Troia
granted her powers by the GREEK pantheon of gods? If The Iliad
is to be believed, the Greeks and the Trojans weren't exactly
the best of friends ... >>
True, but The Illiad was written by a Greek and Troy was
treated, for all intents and purposes, as just another
Achean-culture kingdom. No Trojan gods (if there even were any
Trojan-specific Gods) are mentioned, although the Trojans are
favored in the war by several Greek gods (most notably, Ares).
From what I have read, Troy began as a Greek colony and,
although control of the city would periodically pass back and
forth between the Greeks and Persians, was strongly influenced
by Greek culture (including maintaining temples to Greek
deities) throughout its existence.
There's nothing that I know of to link the Titans with
Troy, however. In fact, the Titans were all slain or imprisoned
in Tartarus well before the Trojan War (in the Greek tradition,
anyway -- Roman interpretation has Cronus escaping death and
fleeing to Italy). Since the Trojans were the enemies of the
Greeks and the Titans were the enemies of the Olympians, perhaps
Perez was just taking poetic license by suggesting that the
Titans were somehow linked to Troy?
In any case, I think all this may be negated anyway, since
Byrne gave her (yet another) origin, as some kind of mystical
Wonder Woman clone or something.
Captain Comics sez:
<<As to Igor, the John Byrne Hulk revamp downplayed
Igor's involvement, and removed all references to his being a
dastardly Commie. (It was published after the fall of the Berlin
Wall, after all.) I don't know how much of Igor is still canon
or not, and I doubt Marvel's going to go to any great lengths to
dredge it up and explain it.>>
Maybe I am mis-remembering, but didn't Peter David do a story
during his run on the Hulk in which Bruce Banner and the
Pantheon confronted Igor with his complicity, and it turned out
that he has been tormented all these years by the knowledge of
what he helped unleash (namely, the Hulk)?
Captain Comics sez:
<<My priority on this site is content, content, content.
I decided long ago to eschew clever programming bits and all
other bells and whistles -- even unnecessary art, if it added to
load time. I wanted the site to be content-heavy, with minimum
load time and maximum ease of navigation. So I'm curious: Do
regular visitors to the site think I met that goal? Did I
succeed?>>
Yes, I think that you did. I agree with your comments that a
site should be content driven. Bells and whistles are all well
and good, but when I surf the World Wide Web, I am looking for
information. Extraneous gimmicks can turn me off of a site and
make me navigate away from the page instantly, before I have
even had a chance to look at the content itself. If I just want
dazzling eye-candy and noisemakers, I'll shoot off some
fireworks in my back yard.
Your site is well organized, easy to navigate, and, most
importantly, has lots of useful, accessible information.
As I mentioned up above, I had mostly dropped out of comics
in the late '80s, early '90s. The writing, it seemed to me at
the time, had turned to muck. The only books that were
"flourishing" were the Image T&A-type books, aimed at horny
adolescent boys, and they were definitely not my cup of tea.
Despite being a life-long fanboy, I stopped any serious
collecting outright. I only infrequently stopped in at the local
comics shop to pick up the occasional issue of some exceptional
title (Astro City) or TPB (Kingdom Come).
I did try to keep somewhat informed of what was happening
in comics through the Internet, mostly on newsgroups or the
official sites of the big publishers, like DC and Marvel (which
haven't always been very good sources), and occasionally on fan
sites.
That's how I happened to find your site one day while
surfing the Web. It's been great, and your columns (as well as
those of Son of Salmon and your other contributors) are directly
responsible for getting me back into the comics habit. Although
I had never (NEVER!) bought a comic book on the basis of a
critics' review, your glowing reviews of CrossGen comics sent me
to the my local Comics Cave once again, and, as the books were
everything you said they were and more, I am now hooked on my
four-color habit again!
I am likewise diving into Age of Bronze, The League of
Extraordinary Gentlemen and the "Treasury of Victorian Murder"
books because of reviews on the site.
So, yeah, I think you've done it right. Good content is
what has gotten me hooked on "funny books" again. If there had
been too many bells and whistles when I first visited the site,
I might have been instantly turned off and would never have read
your columns in the first place.
You have no idea how warm and fuzzy you've made my palsied heart,
[withheld]. Knowing that one fan who'd lost interest was
encouraged to find four-color fun again makes all those
all-nighters worthwhile!
As to your other points:
On Igor: I disliked The Pantheon storyline so intensely that I
remember little about it, and refuse to re-read it. If he
re-appeared there, someone else will have to confirm. For the
record, I'm a big Peter David fan, but I really found something
about The Pantheon to be an enormous turn-off. Perhaps it's
because I'm sick to death of ultra-secret societies that have been
around for decades or centuries, but show up in some comic book or
other and immediately and abruptly drop all attempt at secrecy.
Gee whiz, if they're that sloppy, how come we haven't found about
them before now? And what have they been DOING all this time?
Y'know, I believed it when I read Stan & Jack's Inhumans
storyline in the '60s, but I'm less forgiving now.
On Troia: I've admitted before that I played fast and loose with
the Greek connection to Troy for the sake of a cheap shot. Sure
enough, the historical Troy is believed to have been in Asia
Minor, a Greek colony grown up, that also worshipped the Greek
gods. Still, you note that Ares was one of Troy's patrons -- and
is one of the chief foes of Wonder Woman, the former Wonder Girl
and Themyscira. Plus, Themyscira is thoroughly Greek, and likely
wouldn't countenance one of their foremost daughters being named
for a historical enemy. (It would be like a modern Greek heroine
being named Turkia, even if the Turks worshipped the same gods.)
And, as you note, the mythological Titans had nothing to do with
Troy.
Still, as erudite as I'm trying to make this argument, the truth
is that the name Troia just irks me. It sounds stupid, and it
strikes me as lazy writing, where a writer came up with it because
it sounded kinda Greek, or kinda old, or kinda mythological, or
kinda cool, with little thought behind it or little understanding
of the actual history. And that annoys me. I'd read most of the
widely published material available on the Greek myths by the time
I graduated high school -- and it's not my job. Presumably, a guy
whose job it is to write about that material should do the same
before picking out the name -- at least, if he wants to entertain
me and those like me, instead of presenting us with an opportunity
to point out his failings. It's just sloppy, and I feel vaguely
insulted.
On Ludwig Von Drake: [withheld] said last week. "As far as his
relationship is concerned, that is a subject of debate. Carl Barks
established a working family tree in the early '50s that had
Scotty McDuck (with) three children: Matilda, Scrooge and
Hortense. Hortense McDuck married Quackmore Duck and had two
children: Thelma Duck (the mother of Huey, Dewey, and Louie) and
Donald Duck. In the Barks family tree, Matilda McDuck had married
Goosetave Gander, but Don Rosa, who took over the Duck stories
later, established in 1991 that Matilda had married Ludwig Von
Drake (maybe it was a second marriage). By the Rosa version, Von
Drake would then be the brother-in-law to Scrooge and an uncle to
Donald Duck."
You both present well-researched, plausible continuities. Now I
don't know what to think!
On Aunt May: I agree 100 percent. I wasn't all that keen on
knocking off the old lady, but once done it should have stayed
done. As it is, the Spider-Man continuity is particularly one of
revolving doors, with Aunt May, the Spider-clone, Norman Osborn,
and even a clone of Gwen Stacy making grand comebacks. Gee whiz,
fellas, when you have an emotionally gripping death scene, leave
it lie!
And, here's another correspondent that makes the old Captain feel
better about his efforts:
First things first. If he thinks calling
Donna “Troia” is lazy, why doesn’t he think it’s lazy writing to
ignore a serious issue like sexual abuse, as seen in Identity Crisis
itself? Let’s be clear: you can’t just deal with in later books as
an afterthought (and even then, I’m not sure it was), it has to be
dealt with right there in the very same book it first appeared in,
and there has to be a female viewpoint.
Dear Cap: I wanted to report back on my virgin voyage
into CrossGen seas; first impression, very good.
I had avoided CrossGen up until now because, horror of
horrors, I thought they were an Image-like company. However,
based on your recommendation and positive buzz around other
sites, I knew it was time to jump on with Crux.
Mark Waid laid out a tremendous amount of information in
this intro story, but I never felt confused. Like any good
story, I was drawn in and my appetite was whetted for more. I
especially appreciated Mark giving us some insight into
Atlantis. DC and Marvel both have used Atlantis in the past, and
it was simply a given that the city was underwater with little
or no further explanation. Now we know the rest of the story!
Well, not quite, but I'm sure Mark will be telling us more.
Since his brief stint on Superman a couple of years ago, I
knew Steve Epting was capable of delivering outstanding art. He
came through big time on Crux #1. His double-page spreads of
Atlantis in its prime and later, post-devastation, were
tremendous. Steve also provides very noble-looking figures which
fit well into this type of story.
Overall, a very nice package. I like the thick, slightly
glossy paper stock and the extra pages were nice. The one
element that suprised me by it's absence was advertising! No
ads? How does CrossGen pull that one off?
I'm tickled that my recommendation turned you on to CrossGen, […]
-- because I am truly pleased with their product. I find the whole
line thoughtful, patient, well-executed and intriguing.
I'm also pleased to see your review, as I'm always interested to
hear what folks like or dislike about a given title. I learn
something new every time.
So after all these years, is he
disappointed that management backstage didn’t equal the quality of
some of the tales? He never said clearly. And he’s not accurate
about advertising. I read some of their material myself, and the ads
are at the back of the issues, not in between the story proper.
Dear Cap: OK, for the past couple of years it's been
drilled into me that Batman is more Batman then Bruce Wayne. In
fact Bruce Wayne is even less an identity then Matches Malone.
Then comes JLA #53 with Batman being a faceless (i.e., mindless)
warrior, while Bruce Wayne is the ferocity that is the Dark
Knight. The problem with good writing is it can make you believe
anything but now there’s so much good writing I don’t know what
to believe. I’ve always liked the Bruce Wayne side so I
definitely enjoyed the JLA interpretation more. Unfortunately, I
think readers take the view Lex Luthor did on Clark Kent being
Superman: If you have serious power you don’t waste time being
an everyday schmuck. Bruce Wayne will always play third fiddle
to all other plots.
I also find it interesting how much Plas and Bats have in
common. Both are made of leadership material but two parents
dead make one a dark loner and excessive flexibility makes the
other a class clown. (It would be nice to see a plastic person
with attitude, Inque from Batman Beyond is an example of just
how dangerous a power like that can be.)
Hunter vs Potter: Names of Magic is my introduction to
Timothy Hunter and I haven’t yet read the previous series. I
have read all the Harry Potter books. I have to say the word
"magic" is the only thing they have in common. Besides just the
age level involved (Hunter in high school, Potter in 6th,7th or
8th grade) the styles are extremely different. Hunter is
Arthurian(?) magic. Everything is based on English mythology. It
certainly gives it a grander appearance but unless you’re well
read on these things you may not appreciate everything that is
there. I recognize some names that pop up but are the others
unfamiliar because they're made up or because I need to do some
homework? Plus the magic itself is more of a mystical approach
without much explanation. Magic in comics tend to be the exact
opposite of science. Writers go to great lengths to explain
four-dimensional beings living in a subatomic world flying
around a sugar spoon but magic -- well, it's just magic. Potter
is cut from whole cloth, while basic plotlines may not be brand
new, the magic is. And everything in the books is explained in
the books, characters, spells, history ... No outside sources
required. Obviously I’m tilting towards Potter but I prefer more
laughs than angst in my reads. Hunter is excellent reading
still, and I will be going back to the beginning and working my
way through. Any reader would enjoy either/or and I would
certainly suggest both.
Yup, the Bat-books are certainly cursed with lots of good writing
these days, so good that it raises "reality-check" questions about
who and what Batman is. That's pretty cool for us, the readers.
And thanks for the Hunter/Potter analysis. I've grown a bit weary
of the endless Tim Hunter saga -- it's a great premise, but moving
pretty slowly -- and know very little about the Potter books. So I
appreciate your perspective on both.
Did the Batbooks have good writing at the
time? Yes and no – they still had to contend with quite a few
crossovers, and that took away some of the impact. And it didn’t get
any better after Identity Crisis. In fact, it only got worse. That’s
why I’ve long become weary of Mr. Smith’s fluff-coating.
Dear Cap: Apparently, it befalls me to defend Earth's
"greatest Green Lantern." Yes, I know what he did was bad. No
one can really defend it. But you recently compared what he did
to murdering the police, fire department and parademics in the
world. So here is my defense, and take on the events of "Emerald
Twilight."
1) He did not kill the Guardians. They committed suicide,
when they realized Hal was taking all of the power battery's
power. They could have survived and rebuilt. They did in the
'eighties, when the battery blew up. Instead, they decided to
give all of the power to Ganthet, and by extension, committed
suicide.
2) He did not kill all of the Green Lanterns. Or even most
of them. He did take most of their power. But he said he left
them enough to survive. Granted, he did kill Sinestro (which he
shouldn't have done, but who can really blame him?), and he did
kill Kilowog, which was indefensible. Also, Boddika may have
died, but it is not known. You must realize that many of the
GL's have since shown up alive and well (or at least not having
been killed by Hal) in both Guy's book, and GL.
3) And finally, had he killed the Lanterns and the
Guardians, he didn't leave the universe defenseless. There was
still the Darkstars and L.E.G.I.O.N., and although neither were
as interesting, and the Darkstars soon fell, they were still
around to police the galaxy.
Hal's participation in the accursed "Zero Hour" is harder
to defend, but is also exaggerated. He didn't kill the JSA;
Extant did. He did try and kill the Time Trapper, but failed,
apparently. But once again, you have a killer who had killed
numerous heroes. He is responsible in large part for the
destruction of parralel timelines though.
All of that seems to be all you and DC and other anti-Hal
forces seem to focus on. What about all of the times Green
Lantern had saved the universe? He was saving the universe in
"Trinity," while Coast City was destroyed, and helped Superman
save the Earth there afterword. Now Kyle seems to blame Hal for
the destruction of Coast City every chance he gets. (JLA #46 for
instance) It is sickening. And he did die saving the universe.
So what does that leave us? DC and Ron Marz had Hal betray
everything he stood for. Don't get me wrong, I found "Emerald
Twilight" very brilliant, and who is to say they wouldn't do the
same thing if they had the chance? But he deserved better, and
yes I think he should return as GL. He is DC's first hero who
was "worthy" of being a hero. Doesn't that count for something?
Thanks for your defense, […] -- believe it or not, I think Hal
Jordan WAS the greatest Green Lantern. Well, until "Emerald
Twilight." But he's not that any more.
Post-Emerald Twilight, he's just a guy who went postal and killed
his fellow employees. Like that day-trader in Atlanta. Whatever he
did before that is irrelevant. What he did at the end is all that
counts. Y'know, like in real life.
I mean, does anybody know what that guy in Atlanta did before he
killed everybody he knew? He might have been the greatest guy on
Earth. He might have contributed to Save The Whales. He might have
helped old ladies across the street. Heck, he might have pulled on
a Bat-suit every night and fought crime. But all anybody remembers
is that he walked into the office one day and shot a secretery he
barely knew in the forehead.
Hal Jordan's like that. He killed his best friends, his
colleagues, his co-workers. Didn't kill Boddika? Sure he did. He
took her ring and left her floating in space. Her survival
estimate: Nine seconds. Plus all the other members of "Hal's
Corps" that he stole rings from. Didn't wipe out the Corps? Sure
he did. He destroyed the Central Battery. Any Green Lantern
operating anywhere was instantly without power -- if they were in
space, or underwater, or in flight, or whatever, they died
immediately. The unlucky ones were the ones who were suddenly
helpless when their enemies came calling. And the "Fatality"
storyline established pretty much that -- because Hal destroyed
the Central Battery, and their rings lost power, Fatality was able
to kill the surviving ex-Green Lanterns easily in horrible ways
Didn't kill the Guardians? Sure he did. They had established over
and over for 35 frickkin' years that they controlled the green
power. But somehow, inexplicably, Hal overcame that. Took the
green power away from them. They commited "suicide" to continue
the green power away from Hal's influence. The Oan race had no
concept of individuality, so it's plausible that they had little
concern about reducing their entire race to a single guy. But WE
are concerned with individuality, and so is/was Hal. And from our
perspective, our established moral paradigm, all those individual
Guardians died ... because of Hal.
Look, the reason I'm so harsh about this is that Hal Jordan was my
hero when I was growing up. My parents weren't killed, so I
couldn't be Batman. I wasn't from Krypton, so I couldn't be
Superman. But Green Lantern? All that took was fearlessness and a
good heart. THAT I could do. And for 34 years I enjoyed the
adventures of Hal Jordan, fearless good guy.
And that all changed -- abruptly -- with "Emerald Twilight." Never
in my 42 years on the planet have I seen somebody change so
quickly and permanently. It doesn't "ring" true. I still get a bad
taste in my mouth when I re-read the series. It simply doesn't
work. It has too many holes. It flies in the face of established
characterization and continuity. (Anybody wanna discuss why the
34th century turned to Hal to be "Pol Manning"? THEY certainly
should've known he had a screw loose, even if we didn't.) It was
blatantly editor driven and not writer driven -- the events in the
story clearly were mandated, and didn't arise from good
storytelling.
In short, I think it's a bad story. I don't disgree prima facie
that Hal couldn't become a villain. Just give me a story that
justifies it. Make me BELIEVE it. "Emerald Twilight" was just a
crappy story, in that it didn't convince me of anything except
that DC was determined to get rid of Hal and they weren't too
picky about how it was done. And if you're going to besmirch a
hero of 34 years -- and I admit I feel that way -- the least you
could do is do it well. Hal Jordan, and his fans, deserved that
much.
And there's where we have a disagreement, if we have one.
I wonder what his answer would be if the
correspondent liked Identity Crisis? I’ve already recorded Mr.
Smith’s take on that sick miniseries, and the letter writer embraced
Emerald Twilight, so it’s pretty apparent where Mr. Smith would
stand if his contact did. Say, did Mr. Smith ever publicly criticize
Kevin Dooley for his part in the mess? Probably not, and that only
makes his arguments all the more weaker.
I agree with what you said in your May 2 Mailbag,
regarding Tony Stark's age:
<<There ought to be a book about adult situations, too,
and that book ought to be Iron Man. In fact, I wouldn't mind if
Tony hit his forties ... I say write him as if he's pushing 40
(or over), which in no way obviates his success with women or in
industry -- in fact, it would probably accentuate it.>>
Years ago, I remember reading that Superman is "perpetually
29", and that Batman is a few years older. Since Peter Parker
graduated from college, and Franklin Richards turned seven (?),
characters have rarely been shown to age, and have remained
frozen around their late 20s/early 30s (the exception was Mike
Grell's Green Arrow, who celebrated his birthday every year, and
was well on his way into his 40s).
As a young comics reader, I was fine with that. The thought
of being 18 was "old", and people hovering around 30 MUST be
mature, worldly and wise enough save the universe from evil.
Such is the innocence of youth! Even when I was in college, I
could accept the "Superman is 29" concept, because it still
seemed so far away.
Now, I have a problem. The other day, I realized that I'm
older than Superman! At best (assuming that he may have slowly
aged into his 30s), we would be peers! (Think about some of your
classmates in high school ... can you imagine any of them saving
the world today?) Heck, even Steve (Captain America) Rogers, who
was born in the 1920s, is technically younger than me! At this
point, I think the only heroes who are my elders are Reed
Richards (although I'm catching up fast) and the original JSA!
I know that in my children's eyes, I am capable of solving
any problem and making the world a better place; however, I
cannot say I have the perspective to make judgments that affect
peoples' lives. And now, in hindsight, I find it hard to believe
that heroes in their 20s all have the capability to make these
decisions!
Although I agree that comics should continue to strive for
a youthful audience, and therefore publish younger characters, I
also believe that they should age some of their existing
characters to satisfy their aging audience. People relate to
characters with whom they share common traits; one of the most
easily identifiable traits is age. That's why older sports fans
traditionally cheer for the athletes who come out of retirement
or simply refuse to go away (e.g., George Foreman, Ric Flair,
Mario Lemieux,, etc.), and why "Old Timers" games are so
popular.
Aging Tony Stark to his 40s is a great idea. Showing Green
Arrow approach middle age was also smart (although we don't know
if that is still applicable). It would be nice if there were
others to "look up to" and aspire to be when we "grow up".
Oh, well ... I guess it's time to go back to my
shuffleboard game and planning my retirement ...!
I know exactly what you mean. I looked up to Hal Jordan and Barry
Allen when I was growing up; they appeared to be the adults I
wanted to be when I got "old." I didn't WANT them to be peers -- I
wanted role models!
My moment of truth was when I realized I was older than Peter
Parker. When I was in junior high, Parker was in high school. When
I was in high school, Parker was in college. When I was in
college, Parker was in grad school. Talk about a natural
progression. Then when I turned 30, it dawned on me that Parker
was still in grad school -- and still in his 20s. Bummer.
Oh, well -- here comes my nurse to feed me my tapioca pudding.
And here comes your doctor to prescribe
that you see a psychiatrist, because you embrace monstrosities like
Identity Crisis, and for somebody complaining about ages, you sure
seem stuck in a mentally adolescent, uninformed state. Oh, and
here’s a strange look he takes at Chomskyism:
Dear Cap:
Re: Batman machine-gunning zombies:
http://www.intelcities.com/Hobby_Lane/argent/batman.htm shows
that issue was Batman #1, a Hugo Strange story -- it was
inspired by a Doc Savage novel called The Monster Men.
Re: Anti-Americanism:
http://www.geocities.com/the_time_trust_2000/dcwar/ustimeline.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/7160/us.html
http://www.mmmfiles.com/amerimpe.htm
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/littleton/ge1_menu.htm
[link] has an Avenger timeline elsewhere on the site. And
Noam Chomsky wrote a recent article for The Humanist on this
idea, "The Ultimate Rogue Nation."
OK ... Ellis is not the only one to explore this
anti-Americanism theme in comics. Garth Ennis did an Unknown
Soldier miniseries around this idea (the first link), and the
Uncle Sam miniseries by Alex Ross comes to mind (second link).
I have not read Ennis's Unknown Soldier limited series, but
I should mention that it was anticipated by the 1988 Justice
Inc. miniseries by Andy Helfer and Kyle Baker. Justice Inc.
featured The Avenger (Richard Benson -- the pulp character;
needless to say, due to Marvel's Avengers, he has never been
featured in a comic book called The Avenger.) That miniseries
had to do with The Avenger becoming an agent for a government
organization. Since The Avenger had the limited ability to
shapeshift (similar to the later 1980s version of Marvel's
Chameleon), he was used to infilitrate Third World countries by
killing the leaders of those countries and then impersonating
them. While impersonating them, he would change the policies of
these leaders' countries to be more pro-U.S. -- and, after a
sufficient amount of time and a pro-U.S. successor was chosen,
The Avenger would disappear for another mission. This continues
until The Avenger encounters a Soviet agent -- who also has
shapeshifting abilities. Shocked, since he believed himself to
be the only person with shapeshifting powers, The Avenger
discovers the truth behind his origin. Afterwards, he decides to
thwart the morally dubious operations of the U.S., by
assassinating and then impersonating U.S.-backed dictators --
and, after a sufficient amount of time, disappearing, but making
it look like the U.S. had killed him.
This miniseries did an interesting retcon and was fairly
satirical of U.S. foreign policy during the Cold War.
Frequently, in the attempt to combat Communism, alliance were
made with highly undemocratic governments. For example,
Francisco Franco was Spanish dictator from 1939-1975. Although
non-racist, he came to power with help from Hitler and
Mussolini, executed many political prisoners, and infringed on
the freedom of religion of Protestants. (Protestants were not
allowed to have parades or festivals; Protestant churches were
not allowed to even look like churches.) Practicing both
censorship and the authoritarian capitalism/corporate state (no
unions other than official government-run unions were allowed;
workers were not allowed to strike), Franco was despised as an
unreconstructed Fascist.
However, after the Cold War began, Franco's anti-Communism
won him friends in the U.S. He received Marshall Plan aid in
return for allowing the U.S. to maintain military bases in Spain
-- to which Bertrand Russell, in his book Human Society in
Ethics and Politics once said "We say we hate the Communists
because they don't believe in democracy, but Franco doesn't
either and we don't hate him." Indeed, the U.S. seemed to look
the other way as far as Franco's anti-democratic practices went.
The other Western democracies and the Hispanic countries were
shocked that the most democratic country in the world would
assist the most Facist country in the world, and this
relationship cost the United States much credibility in the
developing countries, and gave the Soviets something to crow
about. (See Paul Blanshard's book Freedom and Catholic Power in
Spain and Portugal.) When Franco died in 1975, the U.S. was the
only Western democracy that sent an official to his funeral.
Another example would be the Shah of Iran. (See Big Book of
Bad.) Although he surpressed dissent and did little to affect a
just distribution of wealth, he was U.S. supported.
Although I agree with the Captain that the U.S. system of
government has been justified by history -- that system, as Paul
Blanshard stated, "that the majority of the people have the
right to determine our future by free choice based on free
discussion, with certain inalienable rights guaranteed to
minorities," I should note "that does not mean that I assume
perfection in our democracy" (Communism, Democracy, and Catholic
Power, page 4).
Re: Morals vs. ethics: You mentioned the example of a
lawyer throwing the case of a criminal he knew was guility. Were
you thinking of the Cape Fear remake?
Re: Houdini and Batman: Houdini met Batman in the
Elseworlds Batman/Houdini: Devil's Workshop. Houdini also
appeared in a Malibu/Eternity comic book called Ghosts of
Dracula. And the notorious Spawn #19-20. (Spawn #19-20 shipped
AFTER Spawn #21, due to Spawn/Batman. McFarlane intended that
those issues would introduce a character called The Freak, as
ads directed. However, when Spawn #19 came out, the letterer(!)
of Spawn instead wrote a story drawn by Greg Capullo in which
Houdini appeared. Spawn #25 came out next! Spawn #20 came out
after Spawn #25, finishing up the storyline from Spawn #19. The
writer of the story, by the way, apparently did not know that
Houdini was a skeptic who exposed spirtualists and never claimed
to have magical abilities, as in these issues he is present as
affirming the existence of magic.)
Re: Spawn: The disorder in Spawn releases didn't surprise me, in
that I didn't consider Image at the time to be a professional
publishing company. It was, and in some cases remains, a bunch of
kids playing at being professionals. But the misrepresentation of
a famed historical figure like Houdini is unforgiveable (and
legally actionable by his heirs). What next, FDR as a Republican?
Josef Stalin as a nice guy? Appalling. There's such a thing as
"research," and it's something that professional writers do and
something professional editors check. One more reason I don't read
Spawn, a comic book written by people whose entire body of
knowledge is derived from hearsay and other comic books.
Re: Anti-Americanism: Thanks for the links. I didn't mind the
Unknown Soldier mini, as it seemed to imply that the elements that
employed US were "rogue" -- a time-honoroed cop-out that is
virtually a genre convention for spy novels. And Uncle Sam I found
to be incomprehensible, although the art was very pretty.
As to America's erratic and sometimes contradictory foreign
policy, that's certainly nothing new. Part of that is the nature
of the American system, where you have a Jimmy Carter
administration for four years, then a Ronald Reagan comes in and
sacks everybody and institutes an entirely opposite approach. Then
a Bill Clinton comes in and reverses the process, then W is
elected and does it again. Consistency isn't a hallmark of a
republic.
As to the Shah and Franco, yeah, our support of their awful
regimes is embarrassing and difficult to defend. In those two
cases, though, we WERE being consistent -- with our Cold War
policy of "containment," in which the enemy of our enemy was our
friend. Not the most noble of practices, but our leaders believed
that the ends justified the means. And since we did sorta win the
Cold War, it's hard to argue with success. Not that I'm supportive
of or in agreement with our tolerance of Reza Pahlavi and his ilk,
but I'm just pointing out the thinking behind it.
Again, I'm no knee-jerk patriot. Since "We, the People" are
theoretically the CEOs of America, and our leaders theoretically
are our employees, what they do reflects on ME. And I reserve the
right to criticize my employees when they embarrass me.
My complaint vis-a-vis the anti-Americanism exhibited by some
writers is that it reads like a prejudice more than a political
philosophy; it just seems like cheap shots. I reserve the right to
criticize THAT, too.
Anyway, thanks for all the research and links, [...] -- if I could
afford a fact-checker, I'd hire you. Meanwhile, here's more on
anti-Americanism:
Before we get to that, I honestly find the
correspondent’s exact take…suspect. But worse is Mr. Smith’s
lenient, accepting take on Carter, who’s administration let the
Ayatollah’s gang take over in 1979. I’ll admit it’s regrettable
Reagan never tried to defeat the Ayatollah in his time, but if Smith
is letting Carter off the hook for his own failures, that’s sad.
Speaking of which, wasn’t he embarrassed by the Democrats’ support
for Saddam’s awful regime, not to mention Iran’s current one that’s
building nuclear warfare? One more sign you can’t take anything he
says at face value.
Dear Cap:
<<When I'm not annoyed by Ellis's blatant
anti-Americanism, I'm amused -- because the only reason he can
shoot of his big bazoo is because America made it possible for
him to do so. I guess we're big enough to take it.>>
And it may happen that enough people ignore his books because
of his anti-American stance that he notices, and stops pushing
it so hard.
Free country. And I'm free to tell Ellis to take his
anti-American sentiments and go to ... someplace else.
<<Good grief! Friedrich really HAS read too many comic
books! He's waiting for somebody to swoop out of the sky and
save us? Look, the Lord helps those who help themselves -- why
isn't Friedrich doing something to bail out the industry? And
why does Our Hero have to be 25? No offense to 25-year-olds, but
I don't expect them to have much in the way of business savvy!
Wouldn't somebody with Friedrich's experience and acumen be more
likely to bust a move?>>
Perhaps he's still in medieval mindset. In the chivalric era
that Joan of Arc lived in, and the legendary King Arthur belongs
in, a 25-year-old person was a person with experience and
acumen, and 35-year-olds were elder statesmen.
Yes, I'm exaggerating for effect. Still, if we're looking
for a King Arthur to save comics, then I want Arthur from after
the creation of the Round Table, with a knight for every
situation.
Translated into modern terms, that would be a CEO hiring
writers and artists who can attract a wide range of readers, not
by being all things to all people, but by targeting two or three
demographic segments with each comic book. Then sending the
creative talent to do what they do best, backing them
completely, and working to build trust among the fans.
Hey, waitaminit ... that sounds like a little bit like
Crossgen. (grin)
Hmm. It does at that. Particularly since CrossGen CEO/Publisher
Mark Alessi has demonstrated considerable business acumen by
becoming a millionaire by 35. An elder statesman? Perhaps.
Incidentally, I read somewhere that the average age of death for a
European male in Medieval times was, indeed, 35. That statistic is
skewed substantially by the enormous number of males that didn't
survive into adulthood -- explaining why people often had 10 or 11
children, since so many succumbed to childhood disease or
accident. But still, it was rare in those days to know your
grandfather, and men in their thirties and forties were clearly
men of robust health and/or luck, and their counsel was trusted.
Alas, he wrote an unchallenging take on
Alessi’s conduct once again. Sure, I thought some of CG’s ideas were
pretty good, but that doesn’t put Alessi above scrutiny for
incompetence.
As for Ellis, I can endure some of his early work on books like
Excalibur so long as he avoided serious politics, but since then,
he’s had little or nothing that’s as tolerable. As for Mr. Smith,
I'm honestly skeptical he ever found Ellis' politics even remotely
reprehensible.
Dear Captain: I have, for quite some time, tried to
accept and re-read those whom I consider to be "bad" writers and
artists. Everyone has a couple of stinko stories in them and
Lord knows that most of writing in who love comics want to write
or draw them someday; we don't want to throw stones that might
bounce back on our glass houses. So I give them a chance every
year or so to see if I was wrong in my first estimation.
The one with whom I've suffered for at least eight years
has been Scott Lobdell. Ever since he got his foot in the
X-door, I've been (annoyed) that he couldn't keep a character in
character for long enough to make his next set of actions
believable.
I tried to justify it many ways.
"Maybe Jim Lee and Whilce Portacio were stifling him when
starting writing the X-Men stories." Well, no, because the same
lame things kept happening and continue that were apparent in
that run.
"Maybe the artists weren't good enough." JRJR, Travis
Charest, Joe Mad, Tom Grummett, Jim Lee, Andy Kubert, Tom Raney,
Adam Pollina, Carlos Pacheco, Bryan Hitch. I'm mean, how many
times can you blame the artist for a lousy story? The worst is
when he does have a bad artist and he can't piggyback on their
storytelling ability, his inability to produce a solid story is
VERY evident.
Everytime I've cracked open a new Lobdell story, I've tried
to look at it as if it's the first time. But he manages to
mangle even what some would consider to be an easy story. Carte
blanche on Wildcats and he can't manage to salvage that one.
Look what (Joe) Casey did with the same material.
The best example is the most recent "Eve of Destruction"
storyline. What a waste of paper! The final showdown between
Magneto and the "new" X-Men was Godawful! If you would like to
see what an all-out battle with Magneto was done and done well,
dip into the Claremont well once again. Forgive me for the issue
numbers, but it's been a while: X-Men #115 (where Phoenix puts
Magneto to the test), X-Men #150 (on the desert isle). Magneto's
presence really needs to be given one of menace. That each
moment is fraught with danger and possibly death. Even the
issues with Magneto as ally work better than Lobdell's recent
debacle: X-Men #275, X-Men Graphic Novel: God Loves, Man Kills.
Needless to say, Lobdell is a hack who shouldn't be let
back into the door of any comic company. Hopefully he'll go
pursue that Hollywood career and stay away from a medium he's
managed to sully with his tepid and vapid stories of mutantdom.
Next issue. However, you feel about Captain America, there
are two runs of that book that should not be missed.
One is Mark Waid's. It's an easy stretch these days to say
that Mark Waid is a good writer. But it really doesn't do him
justice to the treatment that Waid gave him. He did what a good
writer does; when given lemons (Gruenwald's abysmal story up to
that point), make lemonade (break it down and mold it back in
your image). You nailed exactly what Cap was becoming; the
parent nag who was SOOOOOOOO upright, uptight and unappealing to
readers. If we wanted that kind of proselytizing, we go to the
local church or to our parents. Sheesh! Waid turned him into a
soldier who always had the plan, the back-up plan and then the
plan that came together just after the back-up plan failed. I
think so many people turned Cap into a garish thug without
realizing this is a man who was a soldier of war and a thinker.
He was a strategist and a leader of the most powerful group of
super-humans. He thought out strategies before executing them,
but thought on his feet, too. Waid's "Man Without a Country"
story was fabulous and put together all the elements I've loved
about Captain America since reading Kirby's run: action,
adventure, romance, espionage, Cap in moral quandaries and
adverse conditions. And winning!
The second is J.M. DeMatteis's run on the book,
interspersed with fill-in stories by David Anthony Kraft (a
writer during Giffen's run on Defenders). These were the issues
just after Roger Stern and John Byrne's. There was a lot of
introspection about who Steve Rogers was and where he fit into
society today (then the mid-'80s). DeMatteis really tried to
round out his C.A. with a supporting cast of neighbors and love
interest (Bernie Rosenthal). Unlike Cap's book today, Cap lived
among the "normal" people and not just those involved in
international intrigue and dressed in Spandex. He was very
human. Also, some of the best work of Mike Zeck's career coming
off of Master of Kung Fu. Two storylines to read that really
show off J.M.'s understanding of who Cap was and is: #261-264
(the return of the Red Skull and the Ameridroid; very poigant
moments) and #276-278 (the return of Arnim Zola and Baron Zemo).
I will make one exception for Mark Gruenwald's run. When
Cap was stripped of his job and had to find another way (#320s
to #350). I thought it was something that hadn't been done quite
this way. I was kind of sad when they simply reduced John Walker
to a psychotic madman and gave Cap back the shield and name.
I look forward to seeing what happens with Cap in the
Marvel Knights line and hope they shake him up. Dan Jurgens is
turning him into a fuddy-duddy again.
Thanks again for the vent.
I usually give Chris Claremont a hard time, […], so let me praise
him in reference to his use of Magneto. One of the reasons I so
enjoyed the X-Men revamp in the '70s was that it seemed so vital
and alive; the characters were in flux and the situations dire.
(As opposed to the last five years, where the "main" characters
like Cyclops and Wolverine were flash-frozen in time, an
unintended side effect of appearing in so many titles that no
individual writer could do anything with them).
And one of those scenes was so riveting that I remember it vividly
to this day. In The X-Men #111-112, the author of the merry band's
latest woes was revealed: Magneto. Wolverine, who had never fought
Magneto but had heard what a bad dude he was, reacted typically,
"OK, troops, let's cut ol' bucket-head down to size!" Cyclops, who
HAD fought Magneto, had a chilling thought balloon: "Dear God!
We're nowhere NEAR ready for this!"
That thought stunned me. These new X-guys were preposterously
stronger than the original five, who'd fought Magneto to a
standstill for years. I'd read lots of Magneto stories, and he
seemed like just another supervillain to me, and an outnumbered
one at that. And Cyclops was ... worried? Afraid? Suddenly, I was
too -- I abruptly realized just how dangerous this man was.
And Magneto proceeded to dismantle the X-Men in jig time, handling
them easily and wreaking a horrible revenge on them. (He
mechanically reduced them to children, spoonfed by robots in
little potty chairs.) Of them all, only Cyclops stood up to the
Big M for more than a few seconds -- demonstrating the advantage
of experience better than any speech ever could.
ONE LINE OF DIALOGUE gave me a snapshot of Magneto as a true
threat to be feared. A snippet that locked into my mind what real
danger the X-Men were in.
But Lobdell's "Eve of Destruction"? Phooey. A waste of trees. Four
issues, and not one moment I recall with fondness. Not only is the
confrontation with Magneto anti-climactic, but what was the point
of Jean Grey dragging all those amateur civilians into battle?
Dumb, dumb, dumb -- God knows there are plenty of X-tra X-Men she
could have called in as the cavalry. Where was X-Force? Generation
X? Maggott, Marrow, Nightcrawler, Captain Britain, Quicksilver,
Scarlet Witch, Iceman -- heck, after X-Men Forever, she probably
could've recruited Juggernaut and Toad. Just .. stupid. But it did
give Lobdell a chance to exhibit the inisipid, vacuous, adolescent
dialogue he's honed to perfection on the insipid, vacuous,
adolescent Gen13.
As to your Captain America remarks, I agree that Waid's run might
well be the best characterization the Star-Spangled Avenger ever
had. I'm not as big a fan of the DeMatteis run, since I find a
soul-searching Cap a contradiction. It reduces his man-of-action,
ultra-competent, I-can-handle-anything persona. It was called for
at the time, I admit, but it's not what I want to read. Although I
do remember the Zeck art with great fondness.
Sad news about Lobdell is that he’s long
since returned to comicdom; Hollywood clearly didn’t like his
writing, and only mainstream companies now plagued with terrible
staffers want him.
Interesting Mr. Smith didn’t comment on Lobdell’s homophilia,
hammering his beliefs about homosexuality in the form of Northstar
over the readers’ heads and getting Jean-Paul into a pointless clash
with one of the pathetically written “recruits”. And he probably
hasn’t commented on Lobdell’s
confession of sexual harrassment against a woman at a LGBT
panel in a convention center. Fascinating how Lobdell has such major
respect for homosexuality, but far less for the female part of
society, and it can be seen in some of his comics work too. Now,
here’s a letter I wrote that begins with a paragraph I most deeply
regret:
Dear Cap: First, I wanted to say that you were right
on, Amazing Spider-Man’s 30th issue turned out to be brilliant
indeed. J. Michael Straczynski did a brilliant job at beginning
the story arc in which Peter Parker takes some time to return to
his roots. I’m already looking forward to the next issues.
Next up, this past week I was so lucky, I found a Silver
Surfer TPB containing the first several issues in a used
bookstore this week. It was so wonderful to get a look at what
the all the old classic works of Jack Kirby from the mid-'60s
were like. For comics drawn during the mid-'60s, the artwork was
brilliant, as was the story. In an introduction at the
beginning, Stan Lee explained how the idea for the Silver Surfer
arose from a drawing that Kirby had casually added within the
pages of the Fantastic Four when he was writing about their
battle with Galactus. Upon seeing this simple surprise sight,
Lee encouraged Kirby to expand the drawing into what would
become a major character and one of the most popular folks in
the Marvel Universe.
Though at that time, the Silver Surfer only ran about five
years, it was a great sci-fi story, telling about how Norrin
Radd sold himself into slavery in order to save his planet
Zenn-La and his lady fair, Shalla-Bal, but later turned against
the creator who made him the Surfer, and for doing so was de
facto exiled to earth.
The writers even made a good astronomical observation: At
the beginning, the Surfer says, “How vast is this universe! How
limitless the cosmos!” How so indeed. Space, as we know it, is
endless, and to explore it as far as possible, is, to be sure,
something that even the Silver Surfer would find very
challenging. But whatever adventures, alien life and other
beings and worlds that he does find, can be of great
entertainment to us readers who’re fans of the Silver Surfer.
Finding this TPB was such a joy, and I really hope that
Marvel will try to relaunch the title in time. If there’s
anything I’m really looking forward to at just this moment in
comics, it is that great journey through space, finding new
worlds and lifeforms, and battling the evil that exists there,
enabling the good to be free.
A word or two on the Star Trek discussion from the April 25
Mailbag: You said:
<<I also found Denise Crosby's return to Next Generation
implausible, confusing and ridiculous. What was she supposed to
be? The daughter of Tasha Yar and a Romulan rapist from a future
timeline that didn't exist? Or something? Gah! Just an excuse
for Crosby to get back on the show when her movie career
tanked.>>
Yeah, I too found that whole Tasha time warp idea to be
mind-bogglingly absurd. Of course, it was the producers fault
that they’d failed to develop Crosby’s character, and that
they’d killed her off rather than just leave the door open in a
plausible way for her to return. What they probably could’ve
done was to bring her back in a totally different and unrelated
role with her hair grown longer, which could make her look
different or they could’ve resurrected her a la Star Trek III:
The Search for Spock. It actually made more sense to hire her as
the host of the acclaimed 1999 documentary, Trekkies, in which
she introduced us to some of most bizarre Trek fans in the U.S.
Still, that was probably nothing compared to how Gates
McFadden, as Dr. Beverly Crusher, was so appallingly underused
for the show’s entire run. Such a lovely lady deserved a good
boyfriend/love interest, and they never seemed to offer that,
nor did they seem to really be interested in genuinely
developing her character at all. And then, when they finally did
offer her a chance at romance, in an episode from 1991 called
“The Host,” it all turned out to be in vain: This bizarre
parasite called a Trill turns up in a dying man’s body, and then
gets Will Riker (Jonathan Frakes) to let it (if that’s the right
description) temporarily dwell in his body, whereupon the
charmed Dr. Crusher makes out with him, and then later, when a
new host body arrived, it was a woman’s body, and Dr. Crusher
was understandably driven away. And following that episode, I
can’t recall them ever trying to give her any more boyfriends
again. Sigh. What a waste. Of the nine Star Trek movies made so
far, not counting the documentary Trekkies, I’ve seen eight, but
I missed the ninth, which was Insurrection. However, I read a
review somewhere that even in the last movie, Paramount never
provided any chance at romance for her. Aw, nuts, even in the
movie based franchise they misused her? Tragic. Life’s so
unfair, isn’t it? The only femme Trekker I can recall who was
really well developed was the Irish native Marina Sirtis’s
Betazoid counselor Deanna Troi, whose hairdressers got even
better as the seasons progressed too. They were pretty keen to
focus on the happy and sad aspects of her Betazoid background
many times, and her affair with Cmdr. Riker, as well as her
mother Lwaxana, (Gene Roddenberry’s real life wife, Majel
Barret), whose guest appearances were often for comedy relief.
It’s been a year since I first began contributing to the
Mailbag in April 2000, and I want to say that I’ve been very
much enjoying how the Comics Cave has been progressing. I first
began reading your column where it all began, in the Memphis
Commercial Appeal, in mid-1999, and a few months later, I began
to check out your own Web site as well. When I first looked at
it, there were no permanent archives on the site itself, and so
the permanent content was minimal. But then, when I checked it
out again a few months later, I discovered that archive options
for the site had been added, as well as plenty more features,
and I began to take much more interest in the other columnists
as well. And the more new features and writers that were added,
most notably [name withheld], the more and more interesting the
site became. And so finally, I was hooked. It took me awhile to
fully establish myself as a fully frequent Mailbag contributor,
like fellow correspondents [withheld] and […], but eventually, I
managed, and my parents were very pleased as to how I could
write. Initially, I tried writing while connected directly
online, but then I realized that it was more convienent to use a
word processor to write the majority of the letters I write to
the site. I almost never miss a column of any sort on the site,
coming on whenever I’ve got the time.
Among the things that make your site a lot better and more
convienent than such sites as Fandom.com is that unlike that
site, where there’s so much to look over every day, reviews,
interviews, etc, on your site it’s much more comfy because the
columns like [name withheld]’s reviews are all in one file,
almost like some of the arts reviews in the London Times, and
they’re much easier to load too. And two or three updates per
day are really all that’s needed, rather than a whole floodgate.
And the answers you give for the many discussions with all the
Mailbag correspondents provide a lot to think about. One of the
best examples was this past week or two, in your discussions
with […] and […], which helps to tell us why, if the comics
companies, most certainly Marvel and DC, don’t start making
improvements in their marketing strategies, the industry could
be all but gone in the next 20 or 30 years. One of the best ways
of course, to make improvements, is to start showing an actual
interest in selling their stuff, and to get kids to have a go at
them when they’re young.
To be sure, even if you’ve got assistant webmasters and
secretaries to help you edit and program much of the site
content, it must no doubt be a very difficult job, especially
now that the updates are daily, which is why you deserve a lot
of credit for being able to manage the Comics Cave as best as
possible. Sometimes, when I come on, I found that one or two of
the new columns links or one of the front page photos were
misconfigured, but then, a while later, they’ve been corrected,
which shows as to how you take very good care to see to it that
the content is programmed as correctly as possible. Now that’s
what I call very responsible work! Bravo!
You’ve got a great site Andrew, and it’s one of the best
things to come along for me in the past year or so. Keep up the
good work.
And last, but not least, I’ve got a suggested link that I
didn’t see on the links page: http://www.comicfanmag.com, a
fairly new comic book site that began several months ago.
Thanks for the kind words on the site, Avi -- and for giving me a
chance to brag on [withheld]. My belief about critics/reviewers is
that they generally fail to persuade; rather, the good ones find a
"voice" that is thought-provoking and relatively consistent so
that the reader grows comfortable with the "conversation" and has
sufficient information to make up his or her mind.
[withheld] has done this in spades, and I'd hold his reviews up to
any on the Net. He is clear, consistent, thoughtful, witty and
eschews being patronizing. He establishes his premise, explains
his reasoning, makes his conclusion and moves on -- all in an
entertaining, breezy style. When I read a […] review, I can easily
picture having the "conversation" with someone I know well in a
diner, and come away with a clear idea on whether I'd like the
book, whether [withheld] did or not.
As for the site, there are no assistant webmasters or secretaries
-- just little ol' me. Which explains why the Mailbag is two days
late this week!
As to the Silver Surfer TPB, I'm glad you had a chance to
experience the same thrill I did when reading them the first time
-- albeit 25 years later. I think they still hold up, but I need
to note for the record that the Surfer origin story was drawn by
John Buscema (not Jack Kirby) in Silver Surfer #1 (Vol. 1, Aug
68), as was the bulk of the first 18-issue Surfer series.
Finally, it was not the producers of Next Generation, but Denise
Crosby herself who asked that her character be killed -- she was
entertaining hopes at the time of becoming a movie star and wanted
out of Trek. You could argue that she wanted off the show because
her character had been so poorly developed, which would be the
producers' fault. But it was her idea, and when the career failed
to materialize, she asked to be back on the show in some capacity,
a request that was granted in the form of Sela.
As to Gates McFadden, her character was poorly served in that the
writers were keeping the idea alive that she and Captain Picard
secretly had the hots for each other -- a potential story
complication that was never explored and only rarely alluded to.
Meanwhile, poor Dr. Crusher remained implausibly celibate.
That praise at the beginning for JMS
remains a source of embarrassment for me, written at a time when I
didn’t go into all these things with an open mind. I feel so stupid
now. He debuted on Spidey with a story allegedly drawing from the
Columbine massacre in 1999, and copped out at the end by revealing
the shooter to be nothing more than a bullied kid seeking revenge
with an assault rifle whose exact source was never explained. My
praise for his site, if not some of his contributors, also remains a
source of shame for me. Honestly, was it really worth turning to him
to get a clarification for Crosby’s departure from Star Trek: TNG?
Hardly. I don’t even watch the Trek franchise anymore, and since
2005, it’s pretty much petered out on TV. The two movie remakes that
came a few years later weren’t very impressive, that’s for sure. Now
over to May 23, 2001:
Dear Cap: So Marvel is finally biting the bullet and
withdrawing from the CCAA? I remember the huge debates when DC
withdrew the stamp from Swamp Thing in the mid-'80s, and how
virtually nothing came of it then. The main reason for that, of
course, was that DC did not withdraw completely from the code --
it just set up Vertigo as a code-free line. Now that one of the
Big Three is pulling out completely, does this necessarily mean
the end of the code? In my own mind, I do not see how a code
system without one of the (relatively) major publishers can
continue, but neither do I believe the grading of comics in some
voluntary fashion will be a suitable replacement. The question
in my own mind boils down simply to this: Who, if anyone, should
take responsibility for the comics we buy and read, and for
indicating what the content may be?
Without going through the old arguments, maybe we need to
look at the way comic shops arrange their goods. The ones I go
into from time to time still insist on organising their comics
in an A-Z fashion, without regard to the content of the
magazine. The result can be a title like Lucifer within touching
distance of Legion Lost, for example -- and then we wonder why
parents get upset because little Johnny has got ahold of an
adult title? Maybe we need to take a leaf out of bookshops, and
arrange titles by category (crime/horror/humour/general), and
then alphabetically within that category. Anyway, I would
appreciate hearing your views on this.
My immediate reaction to Marvel's announcement is that it's only a
matter of time before DC follows suit, and the CCAA becomes the
"Archie Seal of Approval." A three-legged stool that loses a leg
is bound to fall down. That's sheer speculation, of course, but it
seems the likeliest outcome.
As to the Code itself, it's always been an exercise in cowardice
and I won't be sorry to see it go. I don't doubt that the Code
workers have the very best of intentions and work hard at their
job -- but it's a job they shouldn't be doing.
Who's responsible for our reading material? You and me, pal, you
and me.
It took DC a decade to follow suit, ditto
Archie, yet only poor writing followed, and their output today is
truly awful. Equally disturbing is how they published some horrors
like Identity Crisis without a content warning. If there’s anyone
the CCA’s closure didn’t help, it was the mainstream themselves.
Dear Capn: Well, I'll jump in and defend Enigma.
Enigma's my favorite Vertigo mini so far. My main response
to your criticism is simply that when I first read it I don't
believe I'd ever read anything else by (Peter) Milligan, and
since then all I've read is the Human Target TPB, and any
stories he's done for the Vertigo anthology minis (most of which
I've got) and Flinch. Never read Minx. So I'm looking at the
work in a different context than you are. Now, looking at a
piece in relation to the author's other work is a worthy kind of
analysis/criticism. But I don't think it's the only one. Looking
at a work as a distinct, seperate piece is always a good way to
go, too.
And I think Enigma holds up extremely well in this way. The
"nothing happening" that was a problem for you in the most of
the issues was for me the slow burn of an individual fighting
hard against a slowly-dawning realization about himself. This
guy put himself through a lot of (heck) before he chose to --
had to choose to? -- deal with what he was learning about
himself and his feelings. Tying it all to the question of who
and what The Enigma was not only deepened the mystery and
conflict of his struggle, it also, of course, likened it to --
and in doing so, turned it into -- an identifiable and
marginally commercial genre story. But that genre story provided
a solid narrative backdrop against which psycho-dramatics could
be placed, moving things along in a readable way. I think
Milligan and Fegredo brought it all off beautifully. It was dark
and moody and incredible to look at; Fegredo gave the mini a
truly off-balance, fractured world in which to take place,
reflecting the imbalance and conflict, within and between
characters, that Milligan made so vivid, particularly in the
central character's emotional/verbal/internal sparring with his
girlfriend and especially The Enigma and himself. The guy's pain
and half-life lethargy were very well-written.
For me, this all led up to something that wasn't as simple
as the schlub finally fessing up and coming out after having
been helped there by The Enigma and his involvement with the
hero. A statement is made at the story's climax that is both
subtle and rather radical, really. It is never established, in
the thinking of the protagonist, The Enigma or the "author's
voice" that it can be known whether the fella has been brought
out (i.e., he was queer but unable to realize and deal with it
before his encounter with The Enigma) or changed from straight
to queer, made queer, by The Enigma's machinations. Yet he
nevertheless opts to live out the sexual reality with which he
now finds himself, embracing his love for The Enigma.
This goes a little deeper than merely exploring whether or
not queerness is "caused" by nature or nurture, with its
implications that it is an acceptable human state of being on
the one hand and the suggestions that it is a "condition" or
"warping" that can be prevented or undone on the other. In the
protagonist's final commitment to his "new" sexuality and to The
Enigma himself, Enigma suggests that, whether queer folk simply
ARE, that queerness is just one configuration of human
sexuality, or whether queerness is something attained through
the redirecting of sexuality away from it's original state of
straightness -- either way, the result is to be accepted and
enjoyed, there's nothing wrong with it. In fact, it's a
liberating phenomenon, a cause for celebration. After all, our
guy clearly is in a state of inertia, if not outright entropy,
before he learns the things that The Enigma has to teach him.
In a time when folks are adamantly lining up on one side or
the other -- "We were born this way!"/"You've got a
moral/physical/psychological/spiritual disease, and if you
wanted to, you could get help and change!" -- Engima's ultimate
stance is positively bracing.
Okay, another bone to pick ...
Capn, Capn, Capn, you have GOT to understand -- there are
about a million light years between the Super Friends on TV and
the Super Friends in comic books. Slamming the new TPB -- and
the old series by extension -- because of the quality (or lack
thereof) of the Saturday morning show is one big dang Nuh-Uh,
Mr. Man! Because, creatively, the two things have almost nothing
important in common whatsoever.
Yes, the cartoon show was junk. I mean, for the first two
or so seasons, when they were sticking with the original concept
of a small, permanent band of senior superheroes training the
young folks to become crimefighters, I loved it. But I loved it
despite the fact -- or perhaps it was because of the fact --
that it was awful.
The comic-book series was an entirely different matter. For
one thing, they stuck with that strong initial concept
throughout the run of the book. This gave the title a cohesion,
a theme, a reason for being, while the TV show degenerated (and
look where it degenerated from!) into a mess of contextless "oh,
let's throw these heroes at these villains this week" skits.
But, more importantly, the vast majority of the stories were
written by E. Nelson Bridwell, and the majority of them were
pencilled by Ramona Fradon. And they knew how to do it up right.
Bridwell understood the value of a relatively simple plot
that appealed to kids without insulting anyone of any age. Never
over-complicated, the narratives nevertheless usually sprung
from a clever basic idea. For most of the run, he judiciously
and deliciously applied guest-stars -- both established folk
like Supergirl and Plastic Man and tons of characters created
for the series, like the Global Guardians and a good set of the
ever-popular "Four Elements" super-people -- without making the
book feel like it was no longer about the Super Friends. And he
had a great time offering up tons of grand old continuity and
trivia for lovers of old-time DC. The original Black Orchid
guest-starred, as did TNT and Dan the Dyna-Mite, and cameos,
guest-spots, name-droppings, references of all kinds from all
over the history of the DCU, found their way into the book.
Bridwell also loved disbursing historical and scientific data in
his stories, and he could do it in pretty comfortable,
unobtrusive ways.
Bridwell was a marvel, and I miss seeing new work by him to
this day.
And Fradon! Only one of my three favorite cartoonists, I
think she's more than a marvel, and her work on the Super
Friends was extraordinary. Just enough cartooniness to separate
the title from the pack and make it a "younger readers" book,
but one that, again, didn't look down on any reader. This is in
part because, cartoony or not, Fradon's stuff was truly dynamic.
Whether engaged in portraying characters' strong emotions or
their superheroic physicality, Fradon knew how to tell a story,
fluidly, clearly and potently. Backgrounds were general rare to
be found, but this little mattered in light of the strong
figure-work and panel and page composition.
Even the inks of Vince "Cinder Block" Colletta on the
latter part of her run couldn't diminish her power and verve.
Nevertheless, the greater-looking issues were inked by Bob
Smith, who brought to Fradon's pencils a luscious and flexible,
soft and smooth roundedness that was a thing of great beauty. I
guess I enjoyed Colletta's issues, a bit begrudgingly, for
offering up the "other," or "hard" Ramona Fradon, but the
Fradon-Smith was the absolute (tops). One lone issue was inked,
quite distressingly messily, by Kim DeMulder; it was after this
book came out that I took to refering to him as Kim DeMuddier.
Super Friends remains, to this day, one of my very favorite
comic-book series, ever, and DC need have nothing but pride in
representing the material from it in a TPB, particularly since
said volume is heavy on the Bridwell-Fradon(-Smith) thang ...
And do I even have to say anything more about Alex Toth
than "Alex Toth?"
Actually, I do believe that DC has made two real missteps
in publishing this book. One is, as far as I'm concerned, a
matter of simply bad, bad taste, while the other one is ...
well, quite the head-scratcher.
One, the cover: You take a beautiful original by one of the
masters of the medium, Alex Toth. And you get Alex "lifeless
realism" Ross to redo the shot.
Good God.
Two, why in the world did they reprint the first issue of
the series -- the first part of a two-part story -- AND NOT
REPRINT THE SECOND ISSUE? As I whined on the DC Message Boards,
is DC run by lobotomized lemurs or something? Who the
H-E-double-hockey-sticks came up with this stunning idea???
Thanks for your defense of Enigma, […] -- as I said, I didn't
enjoy it, since I guessed the ending early on and there was no
mystery in my mystery book. But I'm glad you got a kick out of it.
And I share your affection and enthusiasm for Ramona Fradon, E.
Nelson Bridwell, et al. The Super Friends comic book wasn't
exactly a world-beater, but it was a pretty good book -- and heads
above the insipid cartoon!
Please, spare us the taqqiya, buster, you
don’t fool people as easily as you must think. I wouldn’t trust his
claim to be a Bridwell and Fradon fan one bit.
Dear Cap'n: Johnny-come-lately that I am I just got
around to reading The Punisher. I read the first issue in Marvel
Knights magazine, then bought the trade. The color wasn't as
nice in the trade as in the magazine.
It was good. Not Ennis's best work but good. He only had
one or two things to say about The Punisher, but he did say them
well. So The Punisher kills criminals because he hates them? And
he likes to do that?
And it wasn't violent enough by a long shot. I expected a
little splatter, a little more arterial spray. And Daredevil
should give a stern talk to the whiny wimp who impersonated him
in issue #3.
But it's still pretty near the top of The Punisher pile.
I also picked up some Birds of Prey, partly on your
recommendation. They were great but I think they've awakened a
new pet peeve in me.
Jim Shooter always claimed that, along with inventing the
trade paperback and leading comic pros from slavery, that he
told his writers to mention the characters' name once an issue,
maybe their origin or motivation. To throw the readers a bone.
Jim Shooter was right. I read two really good issues of
Birds of Prey's Gorilla War storyline, up to where Diana left
Deathstroke surrounded by apes, and unless I missed it no one
ever mentioned that arrow-lady-in-red's code name, or why the
hell she was there. I thought she was Arrowette but she was too
willing to kill gorillas.
In addition, I understood the 15-plus years of continuity
behind Deathstroke's motivations, who Ted Kord was, why Barbara
was in a wheelchair and why Diana's called Black Canary and not
Where's-The-Bottom-of-Your-Wetsuit Lady. Heck, I probably even
have most of Mace's costumed appearances.
But I can't imagine that most anyone else would. And people
wonder why kids don't flock to comic-book collecting. Who is
going to join our little comic club if we don't tell them our
secret code words and handshakes?
Two more Gorilla City things and I'm done. First, killing
or ignoring or hypertiming or whatever has been done to Solovar
makes Gorilla City a barren, pointless place. Every story needs
an underlying conflict, even one about big monkeys (technically
apes, okay). Reading about a Grodd-controlled Gorilla City is
like watching Dukes of Hazzard episodes in which Boss Hogg has
long ago buried the Duke boys in the swamp.
The other thing is the willingness of the characters to
sacrifice a gorilla for Blockbuster. Gorilla City residents are
as intelligent as people and, as far as I can see, just entitled
to live. Chuck Dixon's Web site speaks a little about his
Christian beliefs. Maybe he thinks killing gorillas is okay
because they don't have souls?
Hey, what did happen to that big white telepathic ape
anyway?
I assume you mean Ultra-Humanite, and I have no idea. Maybe he's
in a floating poker game with M'Sieu Mallah, Detective Chimp, Sam
Simeon, Titano and Beppo, the Super-Monkey.
I had lots of problems with the Birds of Prey Gorilla City
storyline -- chief among them that it was boring and went on too
long -- but I don't attribute the characters' nonchalance about
sacrificing apes for humans as being Dixon's opinions so much as
the characters' opinions. Max Allan Collins said (while writing
Dick Tracy), "Tracy voted for Ronald Reagan, but I didn't." On the
other hand, since I'm not privy to Dixon's mind, you could be
right.
As to the Lady in Red, you've got a good point about her not being
named. She's an assassin in Blockbuster's employ that Nightwing
calls Lady Vic, which is short for something (Victoria? Victim?
Vichhysoisse?). The fact that I can't remember off the top of my
head is indicative that her full name isn't used nearly often
enough. As to what she was doing there, the best term I can come
up with is "baggage."
And full agreement on your Daredevil remarks. Maybe he should go
back to the yellow togs until he develops a backbone.
Hmm, this correspondent’s told a lot more
about himself than Ennis ever will. Ennis wrote Frank Castle
carrying an all too easy motive for wiping out criminals, and he’s
fine with that? Wow, imagine that, reducing Frank to some weakly
characterized dummy who’s not blasting murderers and rapists away
because he wants to exact the justice regular courts failed to
provide, but rather, simply because he hates them, as though we’re
not supposed to hate violent criminals. Next thing you know, he’ll
say we shouldn’t object to turning established goodies into baddies!
Hi, Cap. I have to respectfully disagree with the
following comments about Thor, Odin & Jane Foster, made on
your website. (Sorry, I don't remember if they come from the
Q&A or somewhere else.)
<<Nurse Jane Foster was originally written out of the
series in Thor #136, wherein Odin "relented" and made Jane an
Asgardian goddess to test her worthiness to be the Thunderer's
mate. Naturally, this being Odin, he rigged the game -- Jane's
divine power was that of flight (hardly unusual -- Thor can
sorta do it -- and pretty useless offensively) and her tests
were such that most Asgardians couldn't pass them. She failed
the tests and Thor -- being a clod -- accepted Odin's judgment
that she wasn't worthy. She was placed back on Earth sans
powers, her memory of Asgard (and Dr. Don Blake) wiped, and
introduced to handsome Dr. Kincaid who was -- gasp! -- a dead
ringer for Blake. -- Captain Comics>>
Now I remember that comic fairly well, as one does most
experiences of one's youth. Even as a kid, however, I didn't
walk away from the story feeling that Odin was being unfair or
capricious. (That would happen later, under OTHER writers.) Nor
did I feel that the test was rigged due to the powers given to
Jane by Odin.
The test was one of bravery, and it was THIS test which
poor Jane Foster failed. Suddenly transplanted to a Nordic
environment where warriors rule and dying bravely in battle is
the happiest of fates, poor, simple pre-female empowerment Jane
was overwhelmed and collapsed in a hysterical heap. Far from
being a bully, Odin gave Jane a chance and showed his son the
reason he was opposed to the match. At the very same time and at
the end of the same story, he manages to introduce Thor to Sif,
the goddess who is destined to be his mate.
Stan wrote a tale which displayed Odin's great wisdom and
heart (something often lacking in the original Norse legends).
Thanks for the defense of Odin, […]. You make some nice points
vis-a-vis the Norse warrior culture, something that hadn't
occurred to me when reading the story. Funny how two people can
read the same story and walk with different impressions, ain't it?
I’m skeptical that was his impression
years back. It’s not all that surprising coming from somebody who
can’t even appreciate the co-starring women from superhero comics
who were written as brave. Or, who can’t even appreciate the idea
they could do their best to learn about courage. He sure didn’t seem
bothered that some of the female co-stars seen in Identity Crisis
could act like hysterical cowards.
Dear Cap: I frequent a chat at
http://comicbookresources.com and we have started a debate about
"mature" comics like Vertigo and the new Marvel line. The debate
is whats the difference between a "mature" comic and just a
regular old comic story. Some feel it's because it deals with
"mature" themes (whatever that means). Others feel that the only
difference is that there's nudity/sex, swearing, and more
graphic violence in the "mature" comic. Kinda like what's the
big difference between PG-13 movie and an R-rated movie. Is the
only thing keeping, let's say, Superman a regular comic book is
that we haven't seen him and Lois actively have sex (even though
we know they are) and thats there's hardly any swearing in it?
What do you and your readers think?
I've posted your question, […], and will wait for resonses to come
in. For my own part, a "regular" book -- like Marvel's mainstream
titles and the DCU titles -- I think of as PG-rated, in that
nothing will appear that I couldn't put in my newspaper. That is,
no nudity, excessive violence, swearing or overly controversial
material. A mature title I think of as "R" and, hopefully, is
called that because it has mature themes -- that is, a storyline
might involve abortion or gun control or some other hot-button
topic, or the good guy could lose, or drug use could be painted in
a glamorous light. Of course, "mature" could also just be a
euphemism/excuse to show some boobs and cuss. This is a
particularly timely topic, in light of Marvel's decision to adopt
an in-house rating system.
Umm, heroes losing is not something
considered “mature”. Otherwise, the Fantastic Four’s loss to the
Hulk in 1964 would have to be censored, now wouldn’t it? Yet another
discussion he gives that doesn’t qualify because he approved of
Identity Crisis trivializing a serious issue. Say, and Marvel did
quite a few “mature” acts soon after ditching the CCA, but
ultimately, they turned out to be very poorly written garbage as
well. Stuff that Mr. Smith didn’t seem especially worried about
either, or he would’ve complained how their “maturity” was
superficial at worst.
Captain: Last week, during a trip to my local comics
shop, the owner mentioned the arrival of JLA: Incarnations #1,
thinking that I would want to add it to my collection. My
response was “No thanks. I’ll just wait until the trade
paperback comes out next year, and buy it then.” As you can
imagine, his reaction was less than enthusiastic.
This brought to mind a quote by Neil Gaiman. When
describing his approach to writing “The Kindly Ones” story arc
in Hy Bender’s The Sandman Companion (Vertigo Books, 1999),
Gaiman said: “By the time that I was plotting The Kindly Ones, I
knew the entire storyline would end up being collected in book
form. I therefore chose to pace the story in a way that would
work perfectly for a book -- but would not work very well for a
monthly comic. ... Some monthly readers complained that they
didn’t feel the story was being done for them, and they were
just being used to subsidize the book; and there’s truth to that
charge.”
I admire Gaiman and applaud his candor is discussing such a
controversial approach. He could have easily claimed that we was
consistently focused on the monthly comic and pleasing his loyal
fans, and that the collections were not a factor in his plotting
style. Instead he exposed a truth about modern comics
publishing.
Similarly, I recall reading an interview online by someone
at Marvel, explaining their excitement at hiring Grant Morrison
to write New X-Men. In this interview, the person (and I
apologize -- I cannot find a copy or recall who was speaking)
said that Morrison proposed the concept of writing stories in
arcs that could ultimately be collected into TPB form, as well
as connecting Annuals with a common plot that accommodates a TPB
collection.
Getting back to my original anecdote, I rarely buy
individual comics anymore; instead I wait for the TPBs. A simple
reason is economics: Why should I ultimately spend over $24 on
JLA: Incarnations over the next seven months, when I can wait a
little longer and buy the paperback collection for under $20?
For similar reasons, I did not buy Legion Lost, The Brave &
the Bold or “Superman’s Return to Krypton;” and I do not buy the
monthly issues of Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men, Legion
Worlds, Amazing Spider-Man, etc.
I will admit, I do occasionally buy individual comics
issues. For example, I’m enjoying Green Arrow, and I plan to buy
JLA/Avengers & the Dark Knight sequel as soon as they are
released. But I just don’t find the need to buy the comics NOW;
I can wait a year and still enjoy the stories (without that
pesky monthly wait between issues!). And let’s be honest and
admit to another cold truth: If a storyline is compelling and
worth reading, nine times out of 10 it will be collected and
republished in TPB format.
Much has been written lately about the future of comics
industry. One of the common proposals is the abandonment of the
current periodical format, and instead switch to publishing
square-bound collections of the stories. As I’ve illustrated
above, that reflects my buying pattern. (One notable exception:
As per my habit, I did not buy the original run of the Batman
“No Man’s Land” story arc; however, I’m also not buying the TPBs
because I refuse to spend over $60 for the TPB collections.
Instead, I bought the paperback version of Greg Rucka’s
novelization, and enjoyed it immensely ... and for under $7!)
Now for my challenge to you: Can you (or the Legion of
Superfluous Heroes) make an argument for buying monthly comics?
And please do not use the easy excuses such as “They are a good
financial investment” (they’re not; only the occasional issue
increases in value), “We need the comics to subsidize the TPBs”
(I don’t get that argument ... traditional books are published
without first being serialized, and that industry has
consistently flourished), etc.
I’d appreciate your feedback, and look forward to your
opinions.
Well, the truth is that the monthly books are necessary for the
publishers. Comics are periodicals, not books; the comic-book
industry is structured differently than the book industry. The
comics industry is front-loaded with tremendous overhead;. the
book industry is the very definition of low overhead. Book
publishers can simply wait for a single writer (whom they don't
have to support during the writing phase) to walk in and hand in a
manuscript. Then they pay him a front fee, and turn around and put
out a book to pay him the rest. (That's simplistic -- some writers
get enormous advances -- but you see my point.) Comics, on the
other hand, have to support legions of writers, artists, inkers,
letterers, colorists, editors, distributors, retailers, etc. --
the whole periodical chain from one end to the other -- on a
month-to-month basis or the whole show evaporates. The writers and
artists have to be paid regularly so they can eat, so the
publishers have to have regular income to pay them, which means
retailers have to sell monthly to keep the cash flow going, which
means retailers have to have regular product, etc. Besides, if the
comics publishers restricted themselves to TPBs under current
conditions, it wouldn't be enough to keep them alive.
But that doesn't answer the question of why YOU should buy the
monthly product. Frankly, I can't think of a good reason. After
all, it's not YOUR responsibility to keep the publishers flush;
they ought to figure how to do that themselves! I'll be interested
to hear other opinions from the LSH!
Sigh. No, the monthly pamhlets are not
necessary for the publishers. Trade paperbacks are. And he’s wrong
about comics being only periodicals – what about Will Eisner’s A
Contract With God? That was one of the first graphic novels
published in the late 1970s. Today, there’s plenty of GNs that
didn’t all begin in pamphlet formats.
Dear Cap: It's way past time for the X-Men to have a
rest. The franchise should be put on the shelf for five years at
least. There's more than enough Marvel material out there to
keep X-fanatics satisfied. I for one have quite enough of The
X-Men to last me the next 20 years. And I'm speaking as a
42-year-old who's been around since the team was first
conceived. Enough already.
I'd be content with, oh, I dunno -- maybe a single monthly Uncanny
X-Men book? The cascade of titles is really tiresome. No sooner do
they deservedly axe a bunch of second-tier X-books (X-Man, Bishop,
Gambit, GenX) than they generate a bunch MORE second-tier X-books
(X-Treme X-Men, The Brotherhood). Pfeh. "Those who forget history
are doomed to repeat it."
Yeah, and that includes people who
complain about sexism, and then when an “event” comes about that
wallows in gender bigotry, they suddenly forget all they said
before. Sick.
The X-Men franchise did wear out its welcome long ago, but as seen
recently, it was the Fantastic Four that got cancelled, apparently
because Marvel’s managers see it as a sacrificial lamb – it doesn’t
sell as well anymore, even though X-Men no longer sell well either.
Re: Your column in CBG #1434 on Marvel Team-Up #28
I haven't had the opportunity to read the story in
question, but have heard others opine on its absurdity. One
point others raised that was not covered in your story is that,
based on the two-page spread included with the article, Herc is
towing the island back into place BACKWARDS. Or, as the song
might now go,
New York, New York
It's a helluva town.
The Bronx is down,
and the Battery's up.
It'd never be the same.
Lawsy, that Hercules. You gotta watch that boy every minute.
Thanks, [name withheld]!
You also gotta watch for all the
dishonesty the mainstream press obsessively keeps on with, Mr. Smith
included.
Dear Cap: Not to be picky (No, that's a lie, I love
to be picky!), but baseball was not imported into Japan after
WWII. It's actually been played in Japan since 1873. You can
find some good info on this at:
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2081.html
The popularity of baseball in Japan was something of an
embarassment to the Japanese government during the war years,
which tried to cover up its American origins as much as
possible. I don't know as much as the history of Japanese comics
but
http://www.dnp.co.jp/museum/nmp/nmp_i/articles/manga/manga1.html
seems to indicate that they have a history almost as long,
although it is true that manga as we know them today didn't
really develop until the advent of Osamu Tezuka in 1947.
Anyway, I hope this letter doesn't come across as too
snotty, it's just that Twentieth Century Japanese History is
something of a hobby of mine. Interestingly enough, despite
being fascinated with Japanese culture in general, I have to
admit that I'm not a huge fan of manga myself. Maybe I'm just a
big old gaijin, but the goofy sidekicks and prepubescent female
nudity have always perturbed me a little, even though I
understand that these are a product of cultural differences to
which I am not accustomed.
Thanks for the info, […]! That flies in the face of what I learned
at Vanderbilt in one of my history classes -- I'd go chew that
professor out if he wasn't probably dead now.
Mr. Smith doesn’t seem perturbed by
crudely written rape scenes drawn from near 1st-person perspectives,
as if it were taking place in a shooting game like Doom. Hmm, what
are the odds he keeps a lot of ecchi, or worse, hentai, around the
house?
Dear Captain Comics: I’m absolutely delighted to see
Amazing Heroes mentioned on your site; it’s a magazine I enjoyed
writing for in the three years I spent with it before its sad
demise, and it’s heartwarming to see that it’s fondly recalled.
For anybody longing for Amazing Heroes, I recommend the
publication Comics International. Published in the U.K., Comics
International has the intelligent fanboy perspective of Amazing
Heroes. At $1.95 an issue, it’s much less expensive than Wizard,
and there are far more reviews and historical information.
Right now, I’m trying to renew my enthusiasm for comic
books, and it’s been a difficult process. I don’t want to give
it up -- nostalgia has such a keen pull on my heart; at the
same, there isn’t much to be excited about, at least from what I
have seen. The main problem are the prices. With the inflated
prices, I expect more from any comic book I purchase; if I am to
plunk down three or four bucks for a title, the writing has to
be on the level of mid-‘80s Alan Moore. That may seem like
extremely high standards; however, the prices warrant it. For
four dollars, I could visit the used CD store and purchase four
or five New Wave albums from the ‘80s.
I am pleased to learn that Grant Morrison will be scripting
an X-Men comic, but I wonder if that alone will rejuvenate my
affection for comic books. I’ve tried varying young authors of
current hip idolatry -- Brian Michael Bendis, Paul Jenkins,
among others -- and while I can see qualities worthy of critical
rhapsodies, none has made my heart skip a beat.
What am I searching for? I mentioned to you before the lack
of a “sense of wonder” in modern superhero titles, and I suppose
that’s a significant part of it. I just want to read comic books
that will drag me into the store again, open my mind to the vast
landscapes of another person’s imagination. Can you recommend
any superhero comics today that would do this?
I’ve read some of Alan Moore’s latest work, and while he
can still weave memorable tales, his magic isn’t quite as potent
as it once was. I remember when Swamp Thing was alone on a blue
planet and recreated his loved ones to free him of his
loneliness. I was so
moved by it that I analyzed it in a piece for Amazing
Heroes. That’s what I’m searching for -- a burst of unrestrained
creativity.
Thanks for your comments, [withheld] -- and I miss Amazing Heroes,
too.
As to what superhero comics might ignite your malnourished
sensawunda, it's hard to say without knowing you better. But there
are a lot of good ones out there these days. JLA, JSA and Avengers
have never been better, and Fantastic Four is really beginning to
click. Spider-Girl is whimsical fun, while Black Panther is
political theater and Captain Marvel mixes humor with heroism.
Paul Jenkins and J. Michael Straczynski are getting ambitious on
the Spider-titles, while Peter Milligan's X-Force is gritty
hyperrealism. Kurt Busiek's Astro City, when it comes out, is in a
class all its own, as is Alan Moore's literate Promethea. Batgirl,
Birds of Prey and one or two other Bat-books do a lot with a
little in the non-powered superhero category. Then there are the
pseudo-superhero titles worth your time: Planetary, The Authority,
Powers and Rising Stars. And why limit yourself to superheroes,
when astonishing strides are being made in titles like Age of
Bronze, Ring of the Nibelung, The Red Star, Queen & Country
and 100 Bullets. And just because they're canceled, there's no
reason not to pick up the TPBs of such books as Starman, Hitman
and Preacher. I'm sure I'm leaving a few out, and others readers
will have recommendations as well.
I could chide him for recommending a
Warren Ellis-owned title like Planetary, but I think I’ll reserve my
condemnation for his recommendation of James Robinson’s Starman. I
honestly don’t think time will be kind to it, and Robinson’s already
proving why.
Dear Cap: I was thinking about something today and
I'm interested to see what you and others think. Which do you
prefer, miniseries/one-shots or crossovers, where continuity is
affected?
After thinking about it a little, I have to say that I
prefer the miniseries/one-shot approach. Let me give a couple of
reasons:
1) The miniseries/one-shot approach gives the consumer (us
fanboys/fangirls) the opportunity to decide whether or not the
story is important or interesting enough to pick up. A good
recent example (to me) is the Robin:Year One series. I
personally have always been a big Dick Grayson/Robin fan (in
fact, I'm pretty sure I like him more than Batman) and therefore
to me the miniseries was an essential, as will be the Dark
Victory TPB when it comes out (as I'm sure it will eventually).
However, I could see that for those fans that aren't into Robin,
having this appear in one of the monthly Bat-family books would
be fairly annoying. Conversely, I could say the same about the
recent Superman/Batman fight appearing in Detective (and one of
the Superman books, none of which I read) recently which I
personally did not find very interesting, especially since it
seemed to be screaming out for a World's Finest one-shot.
2) Crossovers tend to interrupt what are sometimes really
good stories in the peripheral titles. As much as I enjoyed the
recent "Officer Down!" story, I felt it kind of stopped the
momentum of books like Birds of Prey, Robin, Nightwing and even
Detective. Not to mention that in a lot of the titles the
featured character(s) were shoved off to the side (Robin barely
appeared in his comic), which I think defeats the real purpose
of the crossover in the first place (which is point No. 3).
3) The (true) purpose of the crossover is to get the reader
to pick up titles they wouldn't normally pick up and hopefully,
be intrigued enough by the character to continue to pick up the
title. I think that especially in this period of time, given the
very small number of comics readers, the proliferation of comics
information on the Internet, and the price of the comics
themselves, I can personally attest that I am not going to pick
up titles I wouldn't normally buy based on a cross-over. For
instance (going back to "Officer Down!"), the only title I
picked up that I don't buy normally is Gotham Knights, simply
because it was the end of the story arc (I haven't picked it up
again because I don't need it to follow continuity). I did not
pick up Azrael, Batgirl, Catwoman or Harley Quinn, nor do I plan
to in the near future. Generally (I can only speak for myself),
if I do decide to pick up a new title, it's because I hear good
things about the title from enough sources that I trust to give
it a shot.
I really would be interested to hear what you and other
members of the Legion of Superfluous Heroes and anyone else on
that matter think about this situation.
In general, if continuity is affected I prefer the story take
place in the main titles, with specific out-of-continuity ideas or
flashbacks occurring in miniseries/one-shots. But I see your
point, primarily because both "Officer Down!" and "In this issue
-- Batman dies!" didn't really gel. But, as with "Officer Down!",
when something important happens that affects the main title (as
Commissioner Gordon't retirement does to ALL the Bat-books), it's
nice to have the event within those titles so that you can sit
down and read, say, a year's worth of Batman without having to go
dig up a miniseries or something to explain what happened between
issues 586 and 587.
Of course, what really curls my toes is a miniseries that isn't
special at all, and could and should have occurred within the main
title anyway, like Iron Man: Bad Blood, Daredevil: Ninja and just
about any X-mini from the last five years.
Anyway, my opinion's not carved in stone. I'm curious to hear what
others have to say.
Uh uh, he doesn’t see any point, because
he’s embraced Identity Crisis, and come to think of it, he also
accepted Marvel’s storytelling even after Avengers: Disassembled,
right down to the awful treatment of Scarlet Witch. I never even saw
him comment on an insulting story Bendis wrote where Hawkeye went in
search of Wanda, and basically took advantage of her while she was
amnesiac. And if he can’t publicly condemn that, he has no business
arguing about points.
Dear Cap: I noted in your latest mailbag that you say
you know very little about the Harry Potter books. Although I'm
sure I won't be the first person, let me be the latest to highly
recommend reading these. They are children's books, in that they
are directed at a young audience and sold in the juvenile
section of bookstores -- but they are are exciting, fascinating,
charming and appeal to me as a comic reader (not that THAT is a
well-defined term, but be that as it may ...) The books appeal
to adults as well as children, and they are not insulting to
anyone's intelligence. I think you would find the books
enchanting and a lot of fun. I do, and I'm 40 (my wife, also 40,
is hooked on them; every now and again, she says, "Next book ...
next book ..." and gets that glassy look in her eyes.) I would
think that you will be doing yourself a favor to check out the
four books if you can squeeze in the time ... and they're worth
squeezing the time in. Perhaps you might even solicit a
review/recap from one of your regular columnists? It really is
only a matter of time before these books are "comic-ized."
Thanks, […]. MORE stuff to read -- it's an embarrassment of
riches!
J. K. Rowling is also an embarrassment of
political biases, as seen recently after the bloodbath at Charlie
Hebdo’s office in Paris, France. Although not actually said in the
last book, Rowling sure led to an awkward situation after she said
at a book convention that Hogwarts’ professor Dumbledore was
homosexual. What is the point of that, honestly? No less annoying is
how none of the teachers in the books I read seemed to be married,
although some of the students had their romantic connections. Now
for another letter by me:
Dear Cap: Sometimes I’ve wondered if old people, 40-
or 50-plus, can be the central focus in comics.
Usually, when adults are featured in comics, they’re
secondary to the action, serving as parental figures and
mentors, as in the cases of Aunt May, Charles Xavier and even
Martha and Jonathan Kent. But can the elderly ever be in the
spotlight? This is something that I don’t know if comics writers
have ever explored. Comic books of course have largely been for
the younger generation and starring the younger generation. But
that doesn’t mean that adults over 50 couldn’t be an interesting
focus for comic books. And there’s no reason why the younger
generation shouldn’t find them an interesting focus as well. One
sure thing, they certainly shouldn’t be against it. And I most
certainly am not. Years ago, in fact, I also used to watch
reruns of several television programs whose protagonists were 40
and 50, including Columbo; Kojak; The Rockford Files; Murder,
She Wrote; Cagney & Lacey; and even The A-Team, in which
George Peppard was the oldest member. And some of these shows
were certainly a lot better than what today’s TV has to offer.
One thing that’s certainly good about many comics though,
is that unlike a lot of movies in the past decade, they don’t
try to depict old folks in a negative light. That could be of
course because people in the comics industry aren’t as busy as
movie folks are, and they’re able to find more time to be their
families (it helps of course that many artists can work at
home), and also because they’re more understanding and
respecting of the value of having relatives and kids than
moviemakers are.
One example I can think of at the moment in which the
protagonist is over 50: Frank Miller’s mid-'80s masterpiece, The
Dark Knight Returns, in which a mid-50s Bruce Wayne comes out of
retirement. This is one of the best stories spotlighting an
over-50 protagonist.
I once heard someone say that after you turn 50, the
showbiz industry doesn’t care about you any more. And they act
as if old people don’t go to the movies or even buy themselves
pastry snacks like M&Ms. Nonsense, as an uncle of mine once
told me, there are plenty of older people across the U.S. who
like to eat M&Ms, go to see movies, and even read comics,
including a couple of the contributors to the Mailbag. And I
think it is worth a try to spotlight old people in comics. What
could be done for example is to write a Superman story that
focuses on Martha and Jonathan Kent, and could tell the story
from their viewpoint, like how they see their adopted son Clark,
and his career as Superman. Or, they could even write a story
that spotlights the sorceress Agnes Harkness, an elderly
character who appeared in the Fantastic Four and the Silver
Surfer. And of course, they could even do a story that focuses
on Aunt May, whose recent appearance in Spider-Man #31 was done
for comic relief.
To say the least, even old folks do deserve a chance to be
spotlighted in comic books. For even younger folks do need to
get to know about and understand the elderly. And while I don’t
know if it’d get more older people to read comics as well, it
could at least give them something to be pleased with.
I've railed against age discrimination in comics before, Avi. It's
all well and good to have coming-of-age stories and
hero-learns-the-ropes stories, but a little variety would be nice,
too. But I can't really blame the publishers, who are well and
truly trying to appeal to a young demographic. The problem is
larger than that. Fixation on youth is endemic throughout Western
entertainment, to the point where TV shows never seem to show
anybody -- brain surgeons, nuclear physicists, master spies -- who
aren't under 30 (and gorgeous -- you wonder why people who look
that good didn't go into more lucrative fields, like acting). And
if you think over-50 audiences are being ignored, listen to the
complaints of over-30 actresses ... !
Which is just silly. Honestly, if you were in trouble and a Green
Lantern flew to your rescue, would you rather it be Kyle Rayner,
or a fiftysomething GL with 30 years experience with the ring? In
the real world, believe it or not, experience counts. As an
editor, if I've got a problematic story, I don't assign it to a
twentysomething intern -- I give it to an old hand, who's been
reporting for years and knows all the landmines. He may not be
young and pretty, but he'll probably turn in a Pulitzer
Prize-winner. I don't care how good the intern MAY be someday --
I've got a problem, and the old hand is the guy who can solve it
for me NOW.
Incidentally, go back and re-read that scene with Aunt May in
Amazing Spider-Man #31 -- I actually thought it was the best use
of Aunt May in ... well, ever. Instead of being borderline senile
and out of touch, it seemed to me that she was an unusually active
agent in the conversation, getting Peter to make the right
decision by saying juuuuust the right thing to lead him where he
needed to go. In other words, Aunt May solved his problem for him,
but sweet thing that she is, she let him think it was HIS idea. I
thought that was Marvel-ous.
Trouble is, even an “old-hand” like him
knows too little if he can’t figure out when prejudice is sitting
right under his nose in Identity Crisis. In fact, I don’t think he
spotted it in Avengers: Disassembled either; his alleged “pan” of
that story seemed to be on pretty superficial grounds as it was. So,
I can’t accept his argument today, any more than various other ones.
Him rail against discrimination? What a joke.
Cap: Let me first say that I enjoy your site. Since I
have tightened up my budget I no longer buy CBG, but your column
more than makes up for it.
Now onto the big thing. I started comic collecting in 1970
when my grandma bought me a Batman comic (which I learned to
read from). Years of collecting, conventions , flea markets,
etc., that tried my wife's patience and one day I just snapped
and started to sell my collection.
Piles were given away to kids, some of the real muck was
tossed in a public place where hopefully somebody would adopt it
and the rest were sold on ****. For the most part I took a big
loss on what I sold.
After I was done I had some insights.
First I did keep a hundred or so books that were my
favorites. Spirit reprints, Not Brand Echh and Inferior 5
(childhood favorites), 1963 (Alan Moore trying to lighten things
up after Watchmen turned them dark). Etc.
For the most part the people who I sold my comics to were
great, but some of them ... well I could see where the negative
stereotypes come from.
Chief among these was the guy who months after the auction
was over lambasted me over a comic that did not ship (according
to him). I gave him a list of suggestions ( ask the local post
office or anyone else who might sign for your mail). After some
"taunt" e-mails I got one from him that said "Oh, mother had
it!" No "I am sorry in sight."
Another one asked that I "be sure to put the comic in an
envelope with cardboard. My wife said "Gee, I guess that leaves
out our plan of wrapping it in toilet paper and using a marker
to write on the book to address it."
The sad thing is that at one time or another I was guilty
of one or two of these behaviours myself. The nice thing is I
gained a lot of closet space and time to investigate other
interests.
I recomend that other fans try to do the same if you feel
that this hobby is taking up too much of your time (or money). I
make a good living but it amazes me that there are others out
there who can afford $200 statues and other stuff on a regular
basis.
I still buy an occasional comic to read and pass on. The
only thing I do buy are the collections. I like the collections
because usually the best stories are collected. They can be left
on the book case. I can read them without fear of condition and
for the most part I can often find them at discounts if I am
patient.
Now as somebody looking from the outside in I have some
observations.
Comics helped shaped some of my morality. Very often I will
do the right thing because of lessons learned from the
four-color kingdom.
One of the things that I hope the industry does do is try
to make things fun again. Am I the only one to notice that one
of the things missing from today's books are the house ads that
would intrigue you to buy other books.
As for the talent pool: While there are many great talents
out there more and more it seems that we rely on a few all
stars. Its time to bring in fresh blood and some of the old
masters who seem to be left out in the cold.
And lastly, let's have some fun out there and stop taking
ourselves too seriously. What made the Silver Age great in my
mind was the sense of fun there was. Something I see lacking out
there. Just my thoughts.
And interesting ones they are, [name withheld]. Anybody who sees
themselves in your "fanboy" scenarios should have some thinking to
do. And I'm all for adding more fun to our little hobby, something
that's been missing since grim-n-gritty became the rage.
Once again, he posits a lie. His embrace
of Identity Crisis contradicts his argument. So too in fact does his
willingness to accept Infinite Crisis and the 52 maxi-series from
2006. Now for May 30, 2001:
Dear Cap:
<<As my wife remarked after reading The Brotherhood, if
mutants existed in America they wouldn't be assaulted in the
street -- they'd all be celebrities (like in the new X-Force).
America is enthralled by those who rise above the common herd,
and we aren't burdened by rigid class distinction.We don't
resent Bill Gates's money, because we all think we're one lucky
break away from being equally rich. We LIKE weirdoes (See:
Dennis Rodman). We'd make the pretty mutants rich, and we'd set
up support groups for the ugly ones, who would all end up on
talk shows whining to a sympathetic audience. If mutants
existed, we'd all want to BE one. -- Captain Comics>>
Couldn't agree with you more on that statement, Cap! I've
always been confused by the fact that the public accepts
superhumans like the Fantastic Four and The Avengers, but
rejects the X-Men on the premise that they're superhumans!
(Well, you understand what I mean).
Looking at X-Force #116, I've always said that all Xavier
needed was good marketing and the X-Men would be overnight
heroes/celebrities.
For a good look at the idea of superhumans as celebrities.
Check out these links:
The Specials: This independent movie does Mystery Men one
better as it goes further into Captain Amazing's dilemma
(Superhero as celebrity, and what do you do when there aren't
enough supervillans/super-problems to go around?)
http://www.thespecials-movie.com/
And here are some reviews of the White-Wolf RPG company's
answer to superhero role playing: Aberrant (I've played it, it's
awesome)
http://rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_2266.html
http://rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_2735.html
http://rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_1972.html
Enjoy!
Thanks, [withheld]! I've often thought -- and stated on this site
-- that what Professor "Big Brain" Xavier should've done from the
beginning is read the mind of a good public relations expert.
Maybe then he wouldn't have tried to achieve human/mutant trust by
dressing teenagers in masks and having them avoid the press -- !
Here’s another correspondent whom I hope
is now confused/disgusted at how Mr. Smith complains about dark
grittiness and then goes on to embrace sexist abominations and other
horrific screeds shortly afterwards. What he should’ve done is see a
psychologist.
Dear Captain: I have been visiting your website for
some time (about the last eight months or so) and I want to let
you know that I think it is the best website about comics! I
like the fact that your site is so content-based -- it is very
informative and I love the debates.
I guess I got into comics the traditional way you would
recognize -- buying them off the rack at my local newsagent. I
was pretty lucky that my newsagent carried such a great variety
of comics, as I was raised in a country town in Australia. Being
the tender age of about eight, I went straight to the superhero
comics -- I remember reading Green Lantern and JLA from my
earliest years. I still have some "Best of DC Blue Ribbon"
Digests which collected various DC stories, like "Superman vs.
Weird Villains;" "Superman vs. Kryptonite;" "Detective Comics;"
"Superman vs. Luthor;" a collection of stories telling how Black
Canary (pre-Crisis), Red Tornado, Elongated Man and Zatara
joined the JLA; and stories of the JSA (including its origin in
WWII, pre-Crisis of course). The Digests were in colour, but in
a small-size format.
I later gravitated to Marvel when I started reading
Spider-Man reprints published in a similar format to the DC
Digests. I think it was called Marvel Comics Series by Pocket
Books -- I only have two volumes titled "Stan Lee Presents the
Amazing Spider-Man," which collected Amazing Fantasy #15 and
Amazing Spider-Man #1-11 (I think; the last story was the first
appearance of Mysterio).
(Captain's Note: That would be Amazing Spider-Man #13.)
I started reading Amazing Spider-Man #231 (which had the Cobra)
onwards. I then discovered Uncanny X-Men #167 (I think) which
had the first Brood storyline -- it really grabbed me when I saw
Wolverine fighting the Brood embryo gestating inside him and
Storm had bonded with a living spaceship -- fantastic stuff!
Captain, do you remember the DC Digests and the Marvel
Comics Series reprints or were they something published for
overseas markets?
Eventually I had to stop during university, as it got very
expensive for me to collect the few titles I enjoyed. When I had
a steady job, I was interested in getting back into comics,
although the exchange rate between the U.S. dollar and the
Australian dollar means that comics cost more than twice the
U.S. price. I started going for trade paperbacks -- Kingdom
Come, JLA, Watchmen, etc. -- as I found it easier to get
"complete" stories than try to pick up the middle of plotline.
By the way, I find that DC generally has a better presentation
and effort in their trade paperbacks than Marvel. Is that a
choice Marvel has made because of their recent bankruptcy?
Anyway, I found your website was entertaining, informative
and really helped me get back into comics. On your
recommendation, I have picked up Black Panther, Amazing
Spider-Man and Peter Parker: Spider-Man, and I am enjoying them
immensely. I particularly like the question posed by JMS (like
you I find it difficult typing Mr. Babylon 5's last name!) --
how did Peter get his powers? It really made me question the
assumption I (and Peter) made about the origin of his powers. I
am sure the answers are going to be fun to find out too. I guess
that is what I like about comics -- they are fun.
It has been quite a long letter, but I just wanted to say
for you to keep up the good work. There are very few websites
that have excellent content and great debates on comics. As I
said before, your website is the best!
Thanks, [name withheld], for a letter that warmed the bitter,
twisted cockles of my blackened heart! I hope I -- and the Legion
of Superfluous Heroes, long may they wave -- can keep you keen on
comics. Where else can you have this much fun?
And Straczynski's Spider-Man? I'm with you there -- I've read
about the webspinner's life for 39 years and it never occurred to
me to ask the question JMS did in his first issue. That's called
"good writing" in my book.
As to the digests, DC did publish the Blue Ribbon series (and
others) in the U.S., but I never saw the Marvel books you mention.
Could have appeared elsewhere, but not where I lived, here in the
heart of Dixie. And as to the trade-paperback situation, DC made a
business decision about a decade back to aggressively pursue the
TPB market, and Marvel didn't -- but they're playing catch-up now.
Marvel has entered the TPB sweepstakes in a big way, and have
announced plans -- should they have the financial wherewithal --
to have as big a backlog of in-print material as DC.
Anyway, thanks again for the kind words -- and for the anecdotes.
I love anecdotes!
It’s been 14 years and the answers were
neither fun, nor did they actually last. But that’s probably nothing
compared to the obliteration of Spidey’s marriage to Mary Jane
Watson, one of the worst things about Joe Quesada’s decade of
awfulness. But does that matter to Mr. Smith at this point? Signs
haven’t been promising.
Hi! I've been a long-time reader of your column, and
always wanted to contribute with my own two cents (I'm cheap),
but never had the time. Whenever I had an idea about a topic you
brought up, some other intelligent reader had already beaten me
to it. (Just goes to show I should go to sites with a dumber
readership -- naah).
But this discussion about Oracle's swindling Blockbuster's
money got me thinking. How do so many superheroes make a living
having to divide their time between "secret identity" jobs and
the superhero gig? I mean, some of these guys just take off to
fight evil, then have to run back to their actual jobs, then
there's a bank robbery, then there's a job emergency ... How DO
they keep their jobs? If I did that sorta stuff, I'd be
unemployed in a week.
I know, the Avengers get government paychecks, the
Fantastic Four live off Reed's royalties over inventions. Bbut
what do the Titans do for a living? Or the X-Men? Where did the
X-Men get money for that ultra-high-tech place they live in,
Danger Room included? Does Xavier somehow support all of the
DOZENS of mutants in the X-books? Or, like regular students, do
they take summer jobs? Picture Skin workin' at McDonalds.
Nothing for me, thanks.
Have you seen the recent Mystery Men movie? There was a
superhero in it who made a living through sponsors! I thought
that was a GREAT idea. He had ads on his costume, similar to the
ones race-car drivers wear. Would you mind if the guy who flew
down from the sky to save your life wore an "Exxon" logo on his
shoulder? Even the hero's name might be related to his sponsor,
like the "heroes" we see on corny '50s-style ads! You know,
Captain Cornflakes and like that (Not that much worse than some
existing names, many of which are found in the SILLY SUPER-NAMES
section of your site). Picture Ice being sponsored by a
cold-drink brand, Black Canary being endorsed by Harley-Davidson
(she does ride a motorcycle) or Hawkeye with a Rolex (Precision
and style, dontcha know ;-) ). Booster Gold's original series
touched on that a bit, and it made sense to me, not seeming odd
or wrong. I mean, the bottom line is whether they're (the
heroes) saving lives and doing good, right? If they're
accomplishing that, why not make a living through licensed use
of their good image? We don't mind when Michael Jordan endorses
sponsors he chose responsibly, would we care if The Flash did
it?
Well, hope you find my first contribution interesting. I
hope to be able to do it more, it's fun.
There's that F-word again: Fun. Seems we're doing this right!
I did see Mystery Men, and enjoyed it immensely. The character you
mention -- Captain Amazing, played by Greg Kinnear -- was a hoot,
even if he didn't seem terribly heroic.
But then, as you say, how DO those superheroes maintain their
income?
With the X-Men, Professor X has a private fortune AND his
funds/equipment are buttressed by the Shi'Ar. You could surmise
that a guy with a connection to a galactic empire could make a
dime when he wanted to. And, of course, all those "playboy" heroes
like Batman, Starman and Sandman have private fortunes that
finance their crusades.
But how do the blue-collar heroes keep a roof over their heads?
I've often marveled that Peter Parker maintains a middle-class
lifestyle in one of the most expensive cities in the world without
bothering to maintain a steady job. Nightwing's difficulties in
getting away from his police gig has been documented -- but it's
still difficult to believe. The list goes on and on -- and I think
it's time we started cataloging income on this site! Where does
the money come from to keep college-professor Ray Palmer in Atom
gadgets? Who paid for the Titans Tower? Is the entire JSA financed
from Wesley Dodds's fortune? Inquiring minds want to know!
Good question, […], and I want to hear from the Legion on this
one. Where DOES the money come from?
I’ve got a better query: where does Mr.
Smith take his cues from when he praises some of the worst products
coming out of the Big Two, probably dating back to the mid 90s when
he first began his career? Don’t patronize us about money where it
doesn’t matter so much, buster brown.
Dear Cap,: I really don't understand what Frank
Miller hoped to gain by his Wizard rant and wonder if he didn't
make himself look foolish in the process.
If he is so disgusted by the publication (actually he seems
to be bothered by quite a few things and Wizard just happened to
take the brunt), why dignify it with that sort of public
performance?
It's kind of like Pauline Kael taking Pauly Shore to task
for his latest alleged film on the front page of The New York
Times. Talk about stooping to conquer.
Without spending a dime, Wizard has already benefited by
receiving considerable publicity, and, based on the scathing and
emotional nature of Miller's diatribe, I'm guessing Wizard will
continue to benefit in the form of fan support and sympathy. Am
I the only one who thinks Wizard comes out of this looking like
the victim? "Satan's bible?"
To quote Warren Oates from Stripes, "Lighten Up, Francis."
Anyway, reading Miller's comments (obviously, the
performance didn't read as well as it played "live") brought to
mind a phenomenon I witness frequently at my job: I edit a
magazine at a university after working for around 10 years as a
reporter and sportswriter at a daily newspaper. I'm constantly
amazed at the power the press has over people. Many of the
academicians here get incredibly worked up over what they
consider "negative" press coverage, particularly in the student
paper. Please. Have these folks ever heard the phrase "Consider
the source"?
In this case, the source is a bunch of confused college
kids. It's debatable whether these non-pros should be held to
the exact standard of professional newspapers but it would at
least be nice if they were in the ballpark. For the most part,
their stories are innaccurate, and poorly and lazily written.
Every once in a while someone from the staff will improve
rapidly and go on to become a top-notch professional, but a
great many are weeded out of the business by their lack of
skill. (Keep this in mind: I don't want to give the impression
that I'm on too high a horse. If I were a reporter and/or writer
of tremendous skill, I surely would have advanced from the
shabby rag I used to work for.)
Back to the story.
In Frank Miller's case, the source, Wizard, is not "Satan's
Bible," it is a sophomoric publication that, for better or for
worse, appeals to many comics fans. Whether it is the
inspiration for vapid Hollywood deal-making, I can't say.
Whether it reinforces the notion that comics fans are
semi-literate geeks, that is certainly debatable, but I have to
say that I'm past the point of caring about others'
interpretations. I'm 38 and mature enough to realize that if
people want to razz me for reading comic books it's more a
reflection of their own ignorance and insecurity than my
geekiness.
I'm probably in the minority here but I have to say that
Wizard does not bother me as much as it does Frank, or you, Cap.
(I must add, though, that I haven't read a copy in a few years
so maybe it has gone through some insidious change I don't know
about.) I bought my first copy four or five years ago to read on
a trip and found it entertaining. Based on that issue, I decided
to subscribe for a year and eventually realized that I like it
best as an occasional diversion.
"Sophomoric" seems to be the most popular description of
Wizard and I tend to agree, although I don't necessarily see
that as a derogatory term. Sometimes sophomoric is refreshing.
In fact, my dream publication would be an amalgam of Wizard
and Comics Buyer's Guide, a publication I often find too prissy
and spineless. Although I've been a CBG subscriber for more than
10 years, I wouldn't mind seeing it (I'm talking more about the
editorial content, not the columnists) adopt a more irreverent
tone every once in a while.
In sum, I don't think Frank Miller's rant will hurt Wizard
much, if at all. I'm not sure his reputation will be boosted
though.
One more note about Miller:
Why is does it seem like he's always trying so hard to make
himself look psychotic in photographs? I wanted to write CBG
about this but thought maybe it was just me. But, honestly, it
seems like every photo I see of Miller, he's contorting his
features to give the reader the impression that he's really
angry. To what end?
And finally: Despite the good reviews, I must admit I've
been pretty disappointed in Kevin Smith's Green Arrow series.
I'm not a big fan of Smith's work -- I haven't seen any of his
movies since Clerks and didn't read his Daredevil -- but
appreciate his enthusiasm for comics. I wanted to give him a
chance, I wanted to give Green Arrow a chance -- I don't think
I've ever read a GA comic -- but I don't know if I'm going to
continue reading past the first three issues. After reading No.
1, I wondered if this was part of an old script Kevin wrote that
was supposed to play on the Lifetime network. OK, I get it. Men
do bad things to women. Y'know, there have been occasions when
the opposite was true too.
"Sisters are doing it for themselves," Black Canary says to
Oracle. I'm sorry, but if this is the kind of thing that
typifies Birds of Prey I'm going to stay far, far away, even if
I see an issue in a quarter bin.
The first three issues seemed like PC pandering at its most
heavy-handed. On the plus side, I'm kind of intrigued by the
mystery of GA's "lost years" and the identity of the Star City
child molester (my immediate reaction is that it's his aged, gay
benefactor but that seems too obvious) but I think I'm going to
be content to wait and hear about what happens rather than plunk
down cold hard cash for the issues. I expected much better.
Not being privy to Frank Miller's mind, I can't say why he
delivered the rant he did (or for the state of his mug shots as
you describe them). It could well be that he's genuinely sick of
comics being dismissed as juvenile literature, and sees Wizard and
its success as emblematic of the self-hatred the industry has --
which in turn hobbles him professionally. It could be he was
looking for a headline, or trying to be shocking. He could have
been having a really bad day. Heck, he could have been on a
three-day bender, for all I know.
But it sure has us talking, doesn't it? That alone might have been
the point, and I welcome the discussion. See Peter David's
discussion of that very idea, vis-a-vis Dave Sim, in Comics
Buyer's Guide #1434.
As for my dislike of Wizard, it's straightforward, in a way you
probably recognize. It's professional disgust. As a guy who
struggles to maintain professional standards in the face of
professional ridicule on a daily basis in newsrooms ... well, the
magazine offends me. Personally and professionally, it offends me.
Sophomoric? That's polite. It's like every obnoxious fratboy with
a two-digit IQ I've ever known put in the same room and competing
to tell the same fart joke at the same time. And I am perforce
lumped into the same category by outside observers. (And if
small-time, no-account Andrew Smith feels that way, you can
imagine how Frank Miller and Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman feel about
being mentioned in the same breath with Wizard.) Instead of the
BEST of us being the "ambassador" to the non-comics world, as
Wizard's pious defense maintains, it's the WORST of us. The sad
truth is: The outside world perceives comics fans as nose-pickin'
mental deficients, and Wizard gleefully plays along, reinforcing
the idea, to make a buck. Then they point to their sales figures
and assume a mature pose and call themselves "ambassadors." That
offends me.
In regard to your comments about Comics Buyer's Guide, my CBG
editor reads this site, so I'm here to tell you that Comics
Buyer's Guide is an outstanding publication, virtually flawless in
content and execution, and my editor in particular, Brent
Frankenhoff, a man of grit and talent, is a sterling fellow who
would risk his life for nuns, orphans and baby ducks, and to whom
no blemish, personal or professional, could ever be conceivably
attached. Thank God for men of his character, which made this
nation great.
As to Green Arrow, let's review: You don't like Kevin Smith, and
you don't like the character enough to have read any other Green
Arrow series. Fair enough: You're not likely to enjoy it. So I
encourage you to stand up to the bandwagon effect, and read what
you like, not what People Magazine (or Captain Comics) tells you
you're supposed to like.
For my part, I'm enjoying GA well enough. But I do think the media
hullabaloo is overblown. I mean, did you read the People Magazine
review? The reviewer demonstrated dramatically that he knew
nothing whatsoever about comic books -- in three paragraphs. But
he loved Green Arrow. After all, it was written by ***KEVIN
SMITH*** and I guess they had to gush over his work, or lose their
"hip" credentials. That's my take, anyway, and I'm just pleased to
see comics covered in "mainstream" press for whatever reason.
As to Birds of Prey, I also winced over that "sister" line in
Green Arrow and no, Birds of Prey doesn't indulge in ham-handed,
politically-correct, female-empowerment jargon. It's better than
that: Birds of Prey seems to accept as its working premise that
women don't NEED empowerment -- Oracle and Black Canary just do
what they do, and simply set an example of strong women following
their own star. The gender stuff has never even been raised as an
issue.
Well, at least in the earlier issues -- lately I've been a bit
disappointed, as the stories have veered toward clumsy superhero
"adventure" and facile, vapid "romance." My wife dropped it like a
hot shuriken when it became wall-to-wall Spandex during the
Gorilla City storyline, and I didn't blame her. I suspect that
they're trying to make it more appealing to fanboys, but that's
just a guess. Check out the TPBs that collect the first 12 issues
of the ongoing for some good comics.
Look who’s talking for the millionth time
about news sources like Wizard, a man who covers for juvenile
products and ends up making superhero comics look like a juvenile
enterprise to boot. Let us be clear: if he can’t condemn the gender
bigotry in Identity Crisis, then he’s letting those who do wallow in
juvenile fanfiction get away with exactly what he objects to.
That’s why I find his misgivings on Wizard transparent at best. Yes,
they were pretty juvenile themselves. But if they supported Identity
Crisis without challenging questions and he does the same, then he’s
only taking a similar path. He may not use the same kind of crude
humor they were known for, but like them, he too could be very
dishonest and otherwise disrespectful to superhero fans.
Dear Captain Comics: Like so many comics &
animation fans, I eagerly await the Bruce Timm Justice League
animated series for Cartoon Network. Judging from the character
designs, to say nothing of having my appetite whetted by that
Batman Beyond episode featuring the alternate future Leaguers,
it looks to be a real winner!
One thing, though, has been bugging me for sometime & I
run the very risk of playing devil's advocate in being annoyed
at the rather unfair comparisons between the Cartoon Network JLA
& the Super Friends.
Yes, I'll admit the show was often corny & preachy,
especially during the Wendy & Marvin days; the long-time JLA
purists had good reason to complain. More often than not,
however, it's usually the callow fans with no sense of
comic-book history who are the quickest to put down the Super
Friends -- and very harshly, I might add.
"Aquaman's useless! Talking to fish- what kind of a power
is THAT?!"
"The animation was cheesy!"
"Oh, the Toyman. I am SO scared."
"The Super Friends were wimps! They never kicked the Legion
Of Doom's --- !"
A host of other equally derogatory comments don't bear
printing in this column, if you get my drift.
It was a totally different era, for Pete's sake! So many of
these naysayers fail to realize what Hanna-Barbera, Alex Toth or
anyone else involved with the Super Friends were up against.
Network interference and so-called "do-gooder" pressure groups
like Action For Children's Television had such an iron grip on
the Saturday morning landscape by removing what they believed to
be "questionable content." "violence" or "any harmful act a
child could easily imitate." In short, the very elements that
made animated cartoons funny or exciting.
Consequently, the low budgets were also a hindering factor
that resulted in the 'cheesy' animation. The reality of TV
cartoon economics. Sad, but true.
The show's working title 'The Justice League Of America'
was vetoed
because the top brass at ABC felt that, in light of the
Vietnam War, it reeked of fascism.
How can ANY kind of creativity flourish under those strict
conditions?
Through all that adversity, SOMEONE must've enjoyed the
Super Friends, or else the darn thing wouldn't have run for 13
years!
I'm rather partial to that one season with the Legion Of
Doom -- minus ANY teenagers or goofy animals; it made a world of
difference and was just about the closest thing we've had to a
full-scale Justice League cartoon series. (Filmation
notwithstanding.)
Alex Ross went so far as to pay some lovely visual nods to
the show in the Kingdom Come miniseries. (The Hall Of Justice
NEVER looked better, nor the Hall Of Doom more imposing!) Even
those hilarious parodies on both Cartoon Network and their
recent appearance in Evan Dorkin's World's Funnest one-shot
comic were done with a certain affection for the characters.
Having the deep pocket of Time Warner at their disposal,
Bruce Timm & Company are AFFORDED the opportunity to create
a high-quality effort with their Justice League cartoon, a
privilege denied Hanna-Barbera in the past. Who knows HOW the
Super Friends might have ended up if Alex Toth and the people at
H-B were allowed to cut loose -- free of all imposed
restrictions brought on by those fire-breathing pressure groups?
Perhaps not as an object of ridicule in today's fandom, I'll
tell you that much!
This is not to say that the Super Friends was the greatest
animated cartoon series ever made -- far from it -- but to
equate a classy production like Justice League with the whole
"these aren't your FATHER'S superheroes" mentality grafted onto
the Super Friends strikes me as smug and condescending, as if
EVERYTHING was wrong with comics & animation from a more
innocent time.
Keep in mind that for every detractor the Super Friends
had/has, there are quite a number of devoted fans who'd defend
the show in a heartbeat!
What can I say, [name withheld], but what a fine defense of Super
Friends!
Yes, there are a lot of SF fans out there, many of whom disguise
their nostalgic enjoyment of the series by affecting a post-modern
cynicism. But you KNOW they watched -- how else could they know so
many details to make fun of it?
For my part, Super Friends debuted after I was already in high
school, and by then I was WAY too cool for Saturday morning TV. :)
Ergo, my experience with the show is limited to a few episodes
that had me staring agape, like at a car accident.
But you're completely correct about the strictures placed on the
show -- I've read that independently. Alas. It reminds me of, oh,
I dunno ... the Comics Code, maybe? Yeah, you let the bluenoses
take over, and no matter how good their intentions ("It's to save
the children!") what you end up with is pap, overseen with an iron
hand by people who want to tell us what to see, think, hear and
say.
So, let's enjoy the Super Friends for what it was -- and look
forward to what Bruce Timm & Co. do this Fall with Justice
League.
"Shape of -- a puddle of water!" "Form of -- a talking bucket!"
"Wonder Twins powers -- activate!"
I think he’s way too cool for common sense
either. Or something like that. And even if the basic structure a
cartoon like Super Friends used is too tepid, I don’t see what his
point is complaining about bluenoses when he couldn’t complain about
situations involving sexism in the comics industry. All that aside,
I find it weird how some people would dismiss Aquaman because he
talks to fish, when Sub-Mariner did the same many times (one most
notable moment was during his search for Neptune’s trident in the
Silver Age when the warlord Krang took over Atlantis, in the pages
of Tales to Astonish).
Dear Cap'n: Love your website! I have a topic that's
just goofy enough to be interesting, and wanted to run it by
you. I'd be happy to submit it, or hand it off.
Anyway, have you or anyone you know ever noticed that the
majority of Marvel's Silver Age villains, especially as designed
by Steve Ditko (and to a lesser extent by Jack Kirby) seem to
wear green? It's true, just check it out by leafing through '60s
Spider-Man, Dr. Strange (Strange Tales), Fantastic Four and even
Thor (Journey Into Mystery). The villains are usually green,
both major baddies like Doc Doom and minor nuisances like those
one-shot evil-doers that popped up in Strange Tales.
Having noticed this, I always wondered if there was a
reason. Does Ditko think green is bad? Or, does green contrast
nicely against the red-and-blue costumes frequently used by the
good guys? Either way, it's worth a few paragraphs down
nostalgia lane.
You've a keen eye, [name withheld] -- most villains do dress in
green (or purple or orange). And it's not restricted to Marvel in
the '60s.
You were on the money with your remark about those colors
contrasting nicely with red and blue -- which is, frankly, the
whole story. Heroes, dating back to the Golden Age, have
traditionally worn primary colors: Red, blue and yellow. This not
only has to do with how eye-catching those colors are, but also
with how well those colors reproduced on four-color presses in the
'30s and '40s. Besides, esthetically, your primary characters
should wear -- duh -- primary colors. So you've got Thor, Superman
and Wonder Woman wearing all three primaries, Iron Man showing red
and yellow, the Fantastic Four wearing only blue (but rounded out
with red and yellow from the Human Torch and The Thing mixing the
two) and Spider-Man wearing red and blue.
For contrast, their villains have to go to secondary colors:
Green, purple and orange. Most of Spider-Man's early villains wore
green (Lizard, Vulture, Doc Ock, Mysterio) or orange (Kraven). Dr.
Doom wears green, Diablo purple. Batman's chief foe, The Joker,
wears purple with orange accents. Luthor affected green-and-purple
armor for a while, and Brainiac WAS green, with a pink
(watered-down purple) outfit. The early X-Men favored two
primaries -- blue and gold -- so Magneto contrasted with purple
and magenta. Wonder Woman's '40s arch-foe Paula Von Gunther
favored purple suits, and her other nemesis, The Cheetah, was
orange.
Pick any major hero, and usually they'll be wearing primary colors
(Batman being an exception for obvious reasons, but even his black
outfit was colored blue for decades, with a yellow accent). Look
at their foes, and they'll be wearing secondary colors. Heck, even
Two-Face sported green and orange suits in the '60s for no good
reason, Poison Ivy and Riddler wore green, Scarecrow was orange
and Catwoman's suit was, implausibly, purple (who ever saw a
purple cat?).
This is such a genre convention, that in the film Unbreakable, the
bad guy advertised who he was throughout the film by using purple,
purple, purple everywhere he could. Purple suits, purple business
cards, purple carpeting in his art gallery -- even his mother wore
purple eye shadow. This was the director's cue to the audience
that Samuel Jackson was secretly the bad guy. And the Bruce Willis
"superhero" character wore all three primary colors just once --
his red, blue and yellow letter jacket -- the one time he used his
"super-powers" in his youth (when he tore open the wrecked car to
save his girlfriend). That's how confident the director was in the
power of those colors to our comic-book-trained minds.
Well duh, Unbreakable, I hate to say, was
such a bummer in the end, and I honestly don’t see what’s so great
about it as a result. I do think Mr. Smith would look great in
purple, green, orange, and maybe even pink! LOL. Let’s got to June
6, 2001:
I read the letter from my fellow Aussie [name
withheld] (30 May Mailbag) with interest. […] wrote:
<<I guess I got into comics the traditional way you would
recognize -- buying them off the rack at my local newsagent. I
was pretty lucky that my newsagent carried such a great variety
of comics, as I was raised in a country town in Australia. Being
the tender age of about eight, I went straight to the superhero
comics -- I remember reading Green Lantern and JLA from my
earliest years. I still have some "Best of DC Blue Ribbon"
Digests which collected various DC stories, like "Superman vs.
Weird Villains;" "Superman vs. Kryptonite;" "Detective Comics;"
"Superman vs. Luthor;" a collection of stories telling how Black
Canary (pre-Crisis), Red Tornado, Elongated Man and Zatanna
joined the JLA; and stories of the JSA (including its origin in
WWII, pre-Crisis of course). The Digests were in colour, but in
a small-size format.>>
While I enjoyed his reminiscences about reading comics in
Australia in his youth, I did find myself imitating that old
Monty Python skit about the four Yorkshireman and muttering
"Well, when I as young, we had it tough!"
By the sound of things, I'm quite a bit older than [...] --
I was born in 1959. I started reading comics in the early and in
those days, very few DCs made it to our shores.
To backtrack a little, from roughly 1940 to 1960 the import
into Australia of nearly all U.S. magazines and periodicals,
including comics, was prohibited. This was intended as a
protectionist measure to encourage local production, so the only
comics (and other magazines) which were available were local
product and local -- or British -- editions of U.S. material. So
for many years our only access to U.S. comics material was
through licensed local reprints. The output of many US
publishers -- DC, Quality, Fawcett, Atlas, Dell and others --
was published in such local editions. These were mostly --
though not exclusively -- published in black and white, printed
on poor quality paper (even by comics standards!) and generally
had fewer pages than their U.S. equivalents.
Circa 1960, however, the import restrictions on periodicals
were lifted and the products of many U.S. comics publishers
(e.g., Marvel) started to appear in the local shops. However,
the local reprints of DC titles continued. From the late 1950s
onwards these local DC reprints consisted of larger anthology
titles, ranging in size from 50 to 100 B&W pages.
Only a limited range of American DC titles were available
locally until the mid-1980s (at least in mainstream retail
outlets -- specialist comics shops, which of course carried a
full range of DCs, started to appear here around 1980). From
about 1986 or so pretty much the entire DC line began to be
distributed locally and the imported books finally supplanted
the local reprints -- some of which had by then switched to
colour, in a last desperate attempt to compete with the U.S.
originals.
I now actively collect those old Aussie reprints (which had
titles like Mighty Comic, Superman Supacomic, All Favourites and
All Star Adventure Comics). They're both the comics I grew up
reading and marvellous mixtures of material from different
genres and periods of DCs history; an 80-page mid-1960s issue of
Mighty Comics might, for example, contain JLA and Challengers of
the Unknown stories that had been published in the U.S. just a
couple of months before, along with an Adam Strange story from a
couple of years back and Superman and Strange Adventures stories
from the 1950s. However, as a kid I found these reprint books a
source of terrible frustration; I wanted to read the U.S.
originals! How I used pore over those few DC titles that were
regularly distributed here, gazing longingly at the house ads
for comics that never showed up in Australia.
I haven't even started to complain about the weird
distribution practices that resulted in most new U.S. titles not
showing up here until at least their third issue (if then!), or
the fact that because the comics came by sea they were usually
on sale here during or after the cover-date month, or that
distribution was often scant and spotty so that a keen reader
had to visit as many newsagents as possible in order to get all
the books they wanted (though I gather that this last complaint
was a fairly common one in the U.S.A. as well).
Actually, I get rather nostalgic thinking about these sorts
of things. It might have been frustrating, but searching for and
finding that elusive latest issue was a lot more exciting than
just turning up at the comics shop once a week to pick up your
standing order. Ah, the thrill of the hunt ...
Cap, […] also mentioned:
<<I never saw the Marvel books you mention. Could have
appeared elsewhere, but not where I lived, here in the heart of
Dixie.>>
If they're the books I'm thinking of, they were published in
the late 1970s and, so far as I know, were indeed distributed in
the U.S. [...] was probably fairly lucky to find them -- like
most U.S. paperbacks of the time, they weren't distributed all
that widely here. As well as one of the Spider-Man volumes, I
have one reprinting the first few issues of the Fantastic Four
and another reprinting early Ditko Dr. Strange stories. Nice
little books with quite decent colour -- their main drawback was
the teensy-tiny printing, as each standard comic page was
reprinted on a standard-size paperback page.
Anyway Cap, as you mentioned you enjoyed anecdotes, I
thought you might enjoy hearing about the experiences of an
earlier generation of Aussie comics fans.
And I do, […] -- we all got into this weird little hobby in
different ways, and I'm always curious to hear the anecdotes of
others. It's particularly interesting to hear experiences so far
removed from my own, such as yours Down Under. I can only imagine
the pain at seeing house ads for books you'd never see. Ouch!
Although, as you note, our experiences with perverse distribution
were curiously similar. While some books were carried everywhere
in Mrmphis, others, like Sgt. Fury and House of Secrets, only
appeared erratically in various Mom & Pop stores -- and never
(seemingly) in the same one twice in a row! And the only place I
could find Superboy in Memphis (within bicycle distance of my
house) was a Sears-type store called Corondolet -- and it seemed
to be the ONLY title they carried! By the '70s the distribution
snafus were largely over, but the '60s involved, as you put it,
the Thrill of the Hunt -- and, to be honest, I kind of miss it.
As to the Marvel paperbacks from Pocket Books, I have a couple of
late-'60s B&W ones on my bookshelf that I picked up as an
adult at garage sales and flea markets (Thor and Hulk), but I've
never seen any color ones from that era. However, a fellow
Memphian assures me they were around and I just missed them:
I hope some of these correspondents today
will choose to post their experiences on blogs and other personal
sites, because Mr. Smith is not the way to go.
Dear Cap: Loved the May 30th Mailbag. I "got" the
names and colors also as a kid; after all, Superboy lived in
SmaLLviLLe!
Good point, […]. You couldn't swing a dead cat in the Silver Age
Super-books without hitting an LL, could you? (Note: No actual
cats were injured in telling this joke.)
But there are people out there who were
insulted by Mr. Smith’s dishonest coverage of Identity Crisis, among
other items.
Dear Captain: Straczynski's work on Spider-Man is a
prime example of comic geeks working in comics as professionals
to the max. Or worse, a SCI-FI geek writing comics. There is a
reason no one has questioned how or why Spider-Man got his
powers before. Spidey's origin, and more importantly, his
motivation, has nothing to do with how he got his powers. It has
to do with "great power comes great responsibility." PERIOD!
That is the story that Stan Lee wanted to tell.
It's professional comic geeks like John Byrne and
Straczynski that try to pad, retell and re-weave the past
stories instead of creating new stories that have caused a lot
of the problems with comics. I believe it was in your own column
that you tried to tell the muddled, inbred histories of
Supergirl and X-Man. It's this "I'm going to tell you how this
character REALLY works" mentality of every writer who takes on a
new assignment that has left comics so inaccessible to new
readers.
But then what do you expect from Straczynski? Babylon 5 was
nothing but a tired derivative of other science-fantasy
TV/movies and a rehash of other non-genre shows with a
science-fiction twist to them. He just puts a fresh coat of
paint on what has come before. Is that all we can expect of
Marvel's flagship character?
You raise a couple of interesting points, [withheld]. I agree with
you that in-breeding is a problem in the industry, dating back at
least as far as '70s Marvel, when the torch was passed from
generally well-rounded, non-geek professionals who had done things
and learned things outside the comics field (like Julius Schwartz,
Mort Weisinger, Otto Binder, Gardner Fox, Stan Lee, et al) to a
new generation who largely seemed to know nothing except what they
learned in comic books. (I am, of course, excluding the likes of
former English professor Roy Thomas.) The immediate result was
Marvel freezing its characters in age and re-hashing Stan &
Jack's work endlessly -- the fans-turned-pro didn't really have
anything of their own they wanted to say, and didn't want to
change a word that Stan had written. The result was stagnation,
and it's a problem that has doubled and re-doubled as new waves of
fanboys have crested in to take over the books.
On the other hand, your line about "the story Stan wanted to tell"
raises the obvious issue that Stan isn't writing the book anymore
-- and hasn't for close to 30 years. Straczynski is writing it
now, and I think it only fair to hear whatever story it is that HE
wants to tell. If it's trite and derivative, then we can and
should blast away at it. But you can't on the one hand criticize
John Byrne because he didn't do anything new, and then criticize
Straczynski because he is trying something new.
I feel your passion, though -- you obviously care for who and what
Spidey is at his core. I do too. I feel like Peter Parker is an
old friend of mine, that I know pretty well. I get irritated when
he's written out of character, or sent in directions I don't think
my "old pal" would go. But I'm willing to give Straczynski a
chance to impress me.
JMS got his chance, and blew it big time.
But don’t count on Mr. Smith to say so publicly. That’s why it’s
probably better to criticize him for his inability to be outspoken.
As for Byrne, while there were some tales he told in the past that
were competent, he did start to screw up as time went by, with his
work on West Coast Avengers being particularly awful in the latter
part of the run. Scarlet Witch was turned evil again just for the
sake of it, and worse, the female cast of WCA was depicted in a
bizarrely ineffective way, unless it was somebody like Scarlet Witch
acting evil, in which case she was effective…for all the wrong
reasons. Sounds familiar? It’s almost like Identity Crisis, with the
difference being that there weren’t any sexual assault themes
depicted one moment and then ignored the next. But, Byrne’s wretched
storyline did give Brian Bendis ideas when he was writing Avengers:
Disassembled.
Dear Cap: After reading this week's (May 30) Mailbag,
I had a few points I wanted to address.
First: <<For contrast, their villains have to
go to secondary colors: Green, purple and orange. Most of
Spider-Man's early villains wore green (Lizard, Vulture, Doc
Ock, Mysterio) or orange (Kraven). Dr. Doom wears green, Diablo
purple. Batman's chief foe, The Joker, wears purple with orange
accents. Luthor affected green-and-purple armor for a while, and
Brainiac WAS green, with a pink (watered-down purple) outfit.
The early X-Men favored two primaries -- blue and gold -- so
Magneto contrasted with purple and magenta. -- Captain
Comics>>
Just an interesting note; Scarlet Witch was originally shown
wearing green(!) on the original cover to The X-Men (vol. one)
#4. Hmmm ... Perhaps her change over to red had less to do with
attempting to make sense of her code name as it did with tipping
off readers that she was not really bad. (Not that I really
think that, but it was what came to mind when you brought up
Magneto's colors).
Next: <<Who paid for the Titans Tower? --
Captain Comics>>
If I recall correctly, Cyborg's father built the Tower as a
gift for his son and the team. I assumed Cyborg's father must've
saved up quite a bit of money as a S.T.A.R. scientist. As for
the other heroes and how they make money ... I'm wondering about
that also.
<<The first three issues (of Kevin Smith's GREEN ARROW)
seemed like PC pandering at its most heavy-handed. On the plus
side, I'm kind of intrigued by the mystery of GA's "lost years"
and the identity of the Star City child molester (my immediate
reaction is that it's his aged, gay benefactor but that seems
too obvious) but I think I'm going to be content to wait and
hear about what happens rather than plunk down cold hard cash
for the issues. – [name withheld]>>
Not to be overly PC about the issue, myself, but why is the
elderly, gay benefactor the "obvious" choice for the Star City
child molester? That seems to be a rather stereotypical
statement. According to many studies, most sex offenders that
abuse children are heterosexual. If this is the case, then the
benefactor is hardly an "obvious" choice. In fact, since most
surveys seem to indicate that homosexuals represent one percent
or so of the population, I wonder how that figure would jibe
with the percentage of sex crimes against minors in the minds of
people who would lump the two groups together?
I also wasn't bothered by Kevin Smith's use of Black Canary
as an empowered woman, as [withheld] seems to have been. I would
feel differently if I read into the story an anti-male subtext,
but I didn't. Kevin Smith is anything but "PC." Check out his
movies for proof of that. That is one of the things I find
refreshing in his work. He tells things like he sees them. Is it
possible that you can believe that a woman can be strong and
independent, or that it is possible for a homosexual not to be
labeled a child molester and not be branded as a PC panderer?
Sorry to get on a soapbox, but I thought the comments in
[withheld]'s letter needed to be addressed. I agree with him
that Kevin Smith's story isn't the best thing since sliced bread
and isn't worth all the hype. I have also been somewhat
disappointed in the story, so far. But, I don't feel that it is
any political point of view that is the cause for this.
Lastly: As to Frank Miller's comments on WIZARD (which
[withheld] also brought up in his letter), I do agree that Mr.
Miller may have acted a bit strongly, but I think his actions
were needed to make his point.
WIZARD is constantly referring to comics fans as "geeks"
and the like. In fairness, the editors/writers include
themselves in this group, as much of the humor is
self-deprecating. But, I have always stated to others that I saw
this form of humor to be ultimately a bad thing. After all, can
you imagine how many impressionable children/teenagers will read
WIZARD for the first time and see that WIZARD regards them, as
comics fans, as nerds? Yes, we adult readers realize the
tongue-in-cheek nature of this good-natured name-calling, but
many teenagers would rather die than be labeled a "geek" or a
"nerd." I can't help but believe that more than a few would-be
comic readers were turned off to the hobby rather than be put
into that group. How many of us, at 12 years of age, would have
wanted to willingly be labeled in such a manner? Shouldn't
WIZARD, as an "ambassador" of comics, be trying to make these
kids feel accepted and not the object of ridicule? I am not
asking WIZARD to give up its' irreverent tone, just to lighten
up on the constant degradation of comics fans and the hobby.
Perhaps, because I am a comic-book retailer and therefore
involved pretty seriously within the industry, I may seem to be
taking things a bit seriously. Of course, it is also just as
likely that WIZARD isn't taking things seriously enough.
I couldn't agree with you more about Wizard. I find the magazine
to be a professional and personal embarrassment.
As to [name withheld]'s "empowerment" remarks, I didn't interpret
them to mean that he was against gender equality. In fact, I noted
that I was also irritated by Smith's putting the line "Sistahs
doin' it for themselves" in Black Canary's mouth, because 1) it
was out of character, and 2) it's a cliche. This is in
contradistinction to Birds of Prey, which treats it as a given
that BC is the equal of any male hero, without resorting to trite,
politically-correct jargon to push the point home. BoP SHOWS me
Canary is a force to be reckoned with, whereas Green Arrow is
trying to TELL me -- and you can guess which I prefer.
As to the mystery child molester, I have also guessed (as has […],
in an earlier letter) that he will be revealed to be GA's gay
benefactor. This is not because I assume all gays are so twisted
and perverse that child molestation is a natural consequence --
far from it. As you noted, most child molesters are adult
heterosexuals. The gay men I know have no more interest in sex
with underage boys than I do with underage girls, and find the
concept of child molestation to be equally repulsive. No, I'm
assuming that the gay benefactor is the child molester because the
series is so thin on supporting characters that he's just about
the only suspect! You can't have a dramatic revelation about the
molester's identity if we've never met him before, so to have a
dramatic revelation Smith will have to use the existing characters
-- and the gay benefactor is jsut about the only supporting
character who doesn't have his own comic book!
As […] noted, though, I hope that's not the case -- if for no
other reason than it's just too obvious.
Finally, in regard to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver: Isn't it
interesting that when they were villains Wanda wore magenta
(despite her name) and Quicksilver wore green, but after they were
established heroes, Wanda's outfit shifted to red and Quicksilver
changed to a blue costume? It could have been subconscious on the
part of the colorists/writers, but I suspect it was deliberate --
if for no other reason than to make them mesh well with their
teammates' costumes. Quicksilver's puke-green ensemble looked
pretty nauseating next to Cap's red, white and blue.
Here’s something that’s PC-laden, or
deliberately overlooks an exact problem. No, not all gays/lesbians
commit sexual assault. But this still overlooks something important
to consider: if we’re talking about sexual abuse committed by
male-vs-male, and female-vs-female, then many homosexuals are
usually guilty of that. Including in some insular Haredi societies,
I might add; that’s one more reason why I find their bizarre,
increasing beliefs in sex segregation incredibly damaging to the
psyche.
And if Mr. Smith and his correspondent are in any ways trying to
exonerate gays/lesbians of any guilt, then all I can say is that
they’re guilty pushing homosexuality for sainthood, and
simultaneously dehumanizing them by refusing to admit LGBTs are
capable of making mistakes. Just last year, there was an atrocious
case involving a sport coach named Jerry Sandusky who was convicted
for child molestation, and whose victims may have included his
stepson. There was also Edward
Kramer, a co-founder of Dragoncon in Atlanta, Georgia, who
committed sexual abuse of a couple boys aged in their early teens.
There was even the case of a Haredi man named Baruch
Levobitz, who raped the son of a man named Sam Kellner. In many
Muslim societies like Pakistan, child rape is practically the
norm.
And by trivializing the issue of same-sex assaults, Mr. Smith and
his correspondent have effectively insulted the plight of many of
these victims. Interestingly, if anti-LGBT bias is so important to
these phonies, how come they’ve never written any complaints about the
hostility to LGBT that nevertheless takes place in many Muslim
countries?
Dear Cap: A couple of weeks ago, when someone wrote
in about the entertainment value of the Super Friends, it got me
to thinking. Then it hit me: Grant Morrison must have been a fan
of the show, at least on a subconscious level.
Think about it: His idea for the JLA was "Gods on Earth."
Each member had a godly equivalent. (i.e. Superman: Zeus,
Batman: Hades, and such) Steel was a member for a time. (And
still is, I believe.)
The point: If you follow the analogy, who would he be?
Thought so. (If you still don't get it, use Roman mythology)
Well, Vulcan/Hephaestus, of course, the master forger and
weapons-maker. And using that analogy, Aquaman is
Neptune/Poseidon, Wonder Woman is Diana/Artemis (or possibly
Athena/Minerva), Flash is Hermes/Mercury and Plastic Man the
generic trickster god -- but since Hermes/Mercury is taken, I'd
guess he'd be the demigod Pan.
So who are Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter in this analogy?
I don’t know, but I do think Mr. Smith
could make a good analogy for Dolos, the god of trickery and deceit.
There’s also Odysseus, who specialized in dishonesty, and even
misled Penelope.
Quoth the Captain: "Where does the money come from to
keep college-professor Ray Palmer in Atom gadgets?"
No idea where he gets the items he comes up with during the
course of the adventure, but I imagine that some of his things
are effectively paid for by government research grants.
Given a grant to research subatomic fields, he could use
part of it to maintain his belt, and part of it to build the
equipment he needs to run the experiment. And leftover parts
aren't taken away, as far as I know, so he probably has a
closet/storage locker/whatever of spare parts that he bought
while working on a project and never used.
If I remember correctly, he doesn't keep a secret identity
these days, so Professor Palmer has a unique position on
subatomic research in any case -- the only person who can do
close-in observation. The pay from that alone should be fairly
impressive.
That last point is pretty persuasive […] -- well, assuming Palmer
charges for that sort of thing. Your grant hypothesis raises an
interesting point, too -- I wonder if the government couldn't lay
claim to his inventions, since he used their money? Or the
university, since whatever he originally created was done using
their equipment and while he was "on the clock"? Uh oh.
Oh please! It’s been told in past stories
that Ray built some patents, and probably made a decent fortune off
them that could pay for the costs of his White Dwarf Star
technology. But the real problem here is Mr. Smith of course: a man
who never raised any complaints about Ray and Jean Loring being
desecrated in Identity Crisis has the nerve to address this? Sick.
Let’s go on to June 13, 2001:
Cap: One of my previous missives was misinterpreted
by [name withheld].
First, I wrote:
<<The first three issues (of Kevin Smith's GREEN ARROW)
seemed like PC pandering at its most heavy-handed. On the plus
side, I'm kind of intrigued by the mystery of GA's "lost years"
and the identity of the Star City child molester (my immediate
reaction is that it's his aged, gay benefactor but that seems
too obvious) but I think I'm going to be content to wait and
hear about what happens rather than plunk down cold hard cash
for the issues. – [...]>>
Then, he wrote:
<<Not to be overly PC about the issue, myself, but why is
the elderly, gay benefactor the "obvious" choice for the Star
City child molester? That seems to be a rather stereotypical
statement. According to many studies, most sex offenders that
abuse children are heterosexual. If this is the case, then the
benefactor is hardly an "obvious" choice. In fact, since most
surveys seem to indicate that homosexuals represent one percent
or so of the population, I wonder how that figure would jibe
with the percentage of sex crimes against minors in the minds of
people who would lump the two groups together? – […]>>
Ugh. I merely meant that the foreshadowing of the story, and,
as you pointed out, the lack of supporting characters, seemed to
point to the elderly gay man as being the molester. But, I
thought somehow Kevin Smith's plot would be more intricate -- I
expected some carefully planted false leads or some sort of
obfuscation -- hence the "too obvious" phrase.
Thanks for backing me on that "sistahs are doing it for
themselves" comment. I just thought it was clumsy writing, no
sexual agenda implied. Maybe Kevin Smith's films are "anything
but PC," as […] points out (I've only seen one, Clerks, and I
thought it tiresome), but his Green Arrow seems to be
unnecessarily so.
Again, I point this out not to take Kevin Smith's views or
politics to task. I don't know and I don't wanna know. I was
just taken by surprise by the writing. Like I said last time: I
expected much better.
There you go, […] -- your own words absolve you.
As I said in my answer to […] -- a regular correspondent and good
guy -- I thought he had mistaken your intent. I detected no
anti-gay bias or anti-women bias in your remarks at all. I assumed
-- correctly it seems -- that you felt Green Arrow was being too
obvious with the "mystery" on the one hand, and too heavy-handed
and PC with the out-of-character Black Canary dialogue. In both
cases, we're discussing quality of writing, not politics.
Oh, and as long as we're setting records straight: Last week I
mistakenly said that […] was one of those who speculated that the
mystery murderer was Ollie's patron. Others have written in with
that speculation, but he was not one of them. My apologies to […]
for that misattribution.
Sigh. Look who babbles, the same man who
legitimized anti-women bias in Identity Crisis and Avengers:
Disassembled. And who’s never complained about anti-gay bias in
Muslim countries. I’m not one bit impressed by his lethargic drivel
here.
Hiya, Cap: While reading your weekly updated website
material, a few items triggered the same frustrating question
that always comes to my mind: Why do so many comic-book fans
seem to have such a rabid fascination with maintaining
consistent superhero history? Sometimes the questions you post
and respond to drive me a little bonkers. For example, who
bloody well cares how many years separate Barbara and Dick (in
the Batman books)? Or when the original Flash regained his youth
and vigor? It's not like those topics will ever make one bit of
difference in our lives -- in fact, trying to organize
"continuity" errors usually saps some of the enjoyment from
reading current comic-book issues. Personally, I never try to
make sense of any superhero "history" older than about six years
of our real time for that very reason. Beyond that point,
writers' styles, editorial mandates and shifts in market
interest simply become too apparent to fit into a superhero
world that ages so slowly compared with ours.
It's probably just a matter of perspective, of course, and
I have to remind myself that each person has a different set of
priorities. Heck, I still get an itch every once and again to
find the secret pattern in the digits of pi. Perhaps we are all
genetically predisposed to waste time on unimportant tasks.
But then another possibility came to mind. I remembered
references in one of Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's "Flow" books
(excellent psych study; I highly recommend it) where he
addresses memory practices and the pleasure some people derive
from reciting long family histories or epic tales. And I thought
that perhaps comic-book fans are actually doing something
similar with their chosen medium. They find "flow," or an
optimal experience of a joyful challenge, in structuring such
nonsense as comic-book Hypertime loopholes.
It's just a possibility. I might be wrong, and our beloved
comic-book "continuity cops" might just be total nerds. But it's
something to consider. Do you think you or any of your regular
readers could shed some light on the phenomenon?
That's a heckuva question, […]! I put it on the Message Board,
where some of the responses are quite interesting.
For my part, I'm like you -- I don't try to keep an internal
consistency past a certain amount of time. Six years sounds about
right. In fact, my take on DC is "if they haven't mentioned it
lately, it didn't happen." And by lately, I mean that if Superman
was shown wearing a funny hat two years ago, and he's wearing a
funny hat this month and he doesn't mention the other incident
(which human beings would be inclined to do), then the other
incident didn't happen.
But when I was younger, I was quite the fiend on continuity.
Especially with Marvel, where all the books were written by one
guy (Stan Lee, and the ones he didn't write he edited), and the
characters were aging in real time, and if Spider-Man was wearing
a funny hat in issue #32, then when he wore a funny hat in issue
#85, chances are it was a sequel to the first story -- or, at
least, he'd mention the previous time and react accordingly. For
example, he beat The Vulture the first time by divining that
Vulchy flew using magnetic waves -- and built a device that
interfered with that. The second time he met The Vulture, he
whipped out the anti-magnetic device first thing. Of course, The
Vulture had learned too -- and had built a buffer into his flying
harness to prevent that very thing. That was VERY cool to me -- it
was a battle of wits, with everybody remembering previous
strategies. I was in chess club in those years, and when I met
previous opponents, we were both adjusting to previous matches
every time. Nothing worked twice quite the same way. My Marvel
comics were doing the same thing! Events seemed to MATTER in those
old Marvels, and the characters grew and changed according to
their experiences. Like we do. So it behooved me to know about
Spider-Man #32, so that I understood Spidey's reaction in #85.
Anyway, it could be that continuity fiendishness is a factor of
youth. When you're 12 you want to make sense of your imaginary
world, since the real world doesn't make a lick of sense -- but as
we get older we become more adept at accepting inconsistencies and
overlooking irrelevant information. Or it may be a matter of
experience and perspective instead of chronological age -- that
when you're 12 everything looks like it makes sense and you try to
fit it all together as the years pass to KEEP it making sense, but
by 40 you've been through umpty-ump retcons and you just throw up
your hands trying to make it all fit.
Or it may be as you say about the memory-exercise bit. Most comics
fans I talk to -- and given this site, that's a pretty broad
sampling -- seem to have extraordinary memorization abilities. But
did we gravitate to comics because we memorize well, or did we
learn to memorize well by reading comics? Chicken or egg? This is
an interesting topic, and I'm curious to hear what others have to
say.
Boy, the correspondent here sure doesn’t
seem to put much value on consistency, does he? Continuity is almost
synonymous with character development and drama, and if heroes and
co-stars alike act out-of-character, or some current depiction
doesn’t match one of the past, shouldn’t that be cause for concern?
Especially if it’s just been done solely for the sake of pushing
forth a narrative only the editors/publishers care about? There were
times in the past when some goofs could be overlooked, because a few
decades back, most of them weren’t that forced or contrived. But
today, it’s practically become the norm for the Big Two to rewrite
continuity and character depictions solely to suit their ideas of
what it should be, not something that’ll appeal to a wide audience.
That’s what happens when insular people start taking over, and now,
we have a medium left badly damaged.
Dear Cap: Chiming in from just below the Arctic
Circle again. As last time, my missive has nothing to do with
comic books, but rather a little educative “correction” on a
little thing you said regarding Michael Avon Oeming’s Hammer of
the Gods in the Next Week’s Comics section of your site not too
long ago, about it being a story worthy of Snorri Sturluson, if
he was a real person, or something to that effect (you seem to
have removed that section, so I can’t quote you directly).
Actually, Snorri Sturluson (1179-1241), was a very real
person, if one is to believe the common opinion among
historians. Says Hjemmets Store Leksikon (Norwegian
Encyclopaedia, published by Damm): " ... Icelandic author and
historian; the foremost representative of Icelandic cultural
life in medieval times. ... had a strong position in the upper
echelons of the Icelandic power structures and participated
actively in the political debate ... the so-called Younger Edda,
composed of two parts, Gylfaginning and Skaldskaparmaal, stands
as his most important early work. The former part is a
presentation of Norse mythology, and the latter similar to a
textbook on the arts of a minstrel (a parallel to Aristotle’s
Poetica?) ... the most significant work is considered to be
Kringla Heimsins (The Circle of the World). Here Snorri presents
the history of the Norwegian kings from mythical times up to
1177."
I can add that Snorri is considered one of the Norse
culture’s foremost literary personalities not only for the
historical significance of his work, but also because of his
attention and knack for character, and a sense of historical
perspective uncommon in “the dark ages." His work, especially
Kringla Heimsins, played a very important part in the birth of
the Norwegian national movement in the 19th century, as
inspiration for all of the excited poets and polticians
spearheading said movement, which lead up to our country
eventually gaining its independence in the early 1900s. (and
here I betray my shamefully spotty knowledge of the
“motherland’s” history, I can’t remember the exact year, sorry)
So, I hope I didn’t bore you to death with this little
aside, and that my fumbling translation of the encyclopaedia
text wasn’t too incomprehensible. And, of course, I can’t sign
off without giving you praise for your great site. I luurve it.
Thanks, […]! My reference to Snorri was half in jest -- I've read
the Icelandic sagas, and taken numerous courses in Norse
literature and mythology. But that was 20 years ago, and I vaguely
recalled some argument on whether Snorri (like Homer) was a
pastiche or pen name. But as you say, most current historians DO
consider that Sturluson was a real person and not a pen name, and
I shouldn't ought to have said it without updating my information.
Except that it did bestir you to write with all of that great
info, which I'm very grateful to learn!
Gee, how come he’s not so grateful to
learn what’s wrong with all the sexist and ultra-leftist books he
sugarcoated later? By that I mean, he’s never spoken about reports
discussing such awful cases, if at all.
Hi Cap: KRYPTONIAN LAST NAMES:
ITEM THE FIRST: Regarding your mail item from [name
withheld] about Zod's name -- his full name was Dru-Zod as
memory serves (the Krypton Chronicles, I believe, but I'm sure
someone in the LSH can verify this. Or deny it, should the
incomprehensible occur and my memory fail me. Uh, what were we
talking about? :-)
ITEM THE SECOND: Yes, the early Kryptonians (that is, the
ones named in the late '50s and early '60s) were, very likely,
named with letters (Jor-El, Van-Zee, Dev-Em, etc.) However, some
of the names weren't hyphenated (Professor Vakox) and some
weren't really letters (Jax-Ur, Lor-Van, Nor-Kann.) Also, as DC
matured, the names kept getting odder and odder (Quex-Ul?
Ak-Var?) and some writers couldn't resist having their fun with
them (the infamous Tra-Gob joke in a Lois Lane story.)
Personally, while I like an in-joke or two, I'm not sure I
want to work that hard reading a comic ...
GREEN ARROW'S BOXING-GLOVE ARROW:
Is it possible that the boxing glove isn't really a boxing
glove, but a rubber balloon that is collapsed in the quiver with
a high pressure gas cannister that inflates it to boxing-glove
shape when it's drawn? If you've ever been hit with a tough skin
balloon, it would probably do as much damage as a boxing glove
flung by an arrow -- and would be considerably more aerodynamic.
(I love trying to figure these things out!)
ULTIMATE MARVEL TEAM-UPS
Does it really make sense to introduce an entire new Marvel
Universe through the eyes of a new Spider-Man? That's basically
what this title is. So far, we have Spidey and the X-Men, and
I'm not reading either book, so I don't know how good (or bad)
they are. However, I assure you that I'm more comfortable with
the existing history (well, with the X-Men, that's not quite
true -- come to think of it, not really with Spider-Man either);
but in any case, I do not want to start over from scratch with
existing characters. Once again, this is midgets standing on the
shoulders of giants, scraping off the paint where they didn't
like it, and putting their own over it. The result is a piebald
mix, and it's not going to be any good attracting new readers to
the Marvel Universe -- who wants to read about a Wolverine who's
been doing his thing for 25 years in the MU when he's all new in
Ultimate X-Men? This is CAUSING a dichotomy, not fixing it, and
I cannot see how it lends itself to anything positive at Marvel,
save for a surge in sales for new readers ... for the nonce.
Just my two cents worth on the Ultimate line.
Well, Marvel's argument on the Ultimate line is that it's geared
for newbie readers in the great, wide world outside the comics
shops, and that as those readers get hooked they'll come into the
shops for a shot of the "real" stuff. Yeah, it seems an iffy
premise to me, too.
Your take on Green Arrow's boxing-glove is actually pretty similar
to mine. I just like making jokes about it because it's so LAME!
Why not just have an arrow with a hard, round arrowhead? It would
be just as effective at knocking out crooks (or knocking the guns
out of their hands, as frequently happened), and we wouldn't have
to make up theories about that non-aerodynamic, goofy-looking
boxing glove.
And thanks for the info/theories on Kryptonian names. Good to know
Zod had an actual full name, instead of "General" always being his
first name!
Oh, and for those who didn't get the joke (like me), the […] asks
us to read Tra-Gob backwards. Here's lookin' at you, kid ...
Yep, here’s lookin’ at you too,
propagandist! Some time after he wrote these commentaries, the
Ultimate line pretty much went down the drain in mainstream
bookstores, and sputtered in recognition, as it lost considerable
audience. As for the correspondent, I assume he’s probably aware
that Marvel’s modern staff are rebooting the whole MCU, something
hitherto thought impossible. The query is whether he has any serious
objections, because I don’t think he had many about Identity Crisis
and Avengers: Disassembled.
Dear Cap: There have been a few comments and
questions recently regarding Marvel paperback books and I
remember them quite well. In 1966 the Marvel Super Heroes
cartoon series debuted and around that same time a series of
B&W paperback reprint books appeared. This sticks in my mind
because the cartoons & those paperbacks got me hooked on
Marvel, having been a DC loyalist up to that time. The
paperbacks reprinted stories from the early '60s and there were
editions featuring the FF, Spider-Man, Thor and the Hulk. I
believe each book contained three or four stories and were made
to be read horizontally with two panels per page. In the late
'70s there was a similar run, this time in color, reprinting the
early Conan stories by Roy Thomas and Barry Smith. These volumes
featured three complete stories and there were at least three
books covering the first nine issues.
Perhaps this format should be considered by the comic-book
publishers once again. The paperbacks would be carried by
retailers that don't normally touch comic books (I bought the
Thor book in a grocery store if I remember correctly) and they
might help develop new comic-book fans.
My understanding on the paperbacks is that, like digests, it's not
economically feasible for the publishers who pay reprint fees to
do any more. Plus, you have to cut and paste the comics to fit 'em
on a paperback page. It seems trade paperbacks solve all these
problems, with their "natural" shape and more money to go around
-- and that's the way the publishers want to go.
Or do they? 14 years later and they still
seem pretty confident to go the pamphlet route. So what’s his point?
Here’s two letters together now:
Dear Mr. Smith: After reading your review I was left
wondering if we had watched the same movie. Yes, Witchblade is
bad, but that's not a good thing.
I'm guessing that for some reason, you were impressed with
the movie's use of mindless Matrix-like effects. When I saw them
on-screen I could not restrain my laughter. They were the icing
on one of the worst fight scenes I'd seen in years.
The editing also was way below par. It may be seen by some
a "hip" to mindlessly cut to nothing in particular so the
audience has to go back to the tape and freeze frame to see
what's actually going on, but in reality it's just bad
filmmaking that's trying to hide a non-story with mindless
tricks.
Ralph Hemecker is one of the worst directors in town. He
has his characters act out of character all the time (like when
he has Sara dodge bullets Matrix-style only to wait for her
death just so the gauntlet can be in the right place ...) And I
won't go into the ridiculous strobing crapola that he uses all
the time or the Wonder Witchblade at the end of the show ...
I do agree however that Yancy Butler deserves all the
credit in the world. She did convey tons more than could
decently be expected by Hemecker. Too bad she's the one whose
career is going to stop dead because of that bad project.
The fact that Hemecker is back for the sequel means only
more bad photography (the stuff from his episode somehow looks
worse than when other directors supervise the DP), more
pointless Matrix effects, more pointless strobing, more
pointless wire work, etc.
As for the soundtrack, I'd never seen such a waste of
money. All the money for those songs should have been used to
find a way to create effects that would not make Sara into
Wonder Witchblade, and the score was completely uninspiring,
falling into bad B-movie territory every time the electric
guitar comes in.
Thank you for your time :)
And, thanks for your, […]!
Perhaps my expectations for Witchblade were so low -- below ground
level, really -- that I was impressed that the TV show wasn't
completely unwatchable. Or perhaps it's because I don't watch a
lot of television to begin with, and Hemecker's tricks are
commonplace now (I wouldn't know). But I was vastly relieved that
the TV show wasn't as stupid and pointless as the comic book has
been (before Paul Jenkins took over the writing).
But that's only my opinion, and you have yours, which you
buttressed well. Thanks for taking the time to comment! Here's
another comment:
Dear Cap: I saw the recent showing of Witchblade: The Movie.
Awesome. Yancy Butler is some gal. I first saw her on an early
episode of NYPD Blue -- if it is her, in the action she sure
could run. Also, she must have the most animated face of any
actress. My VCR is primed and ready!
Yeah, I was really impressed with Butler's ability to show
conflicting emotion on her face. And, as she says on the interview
elsewhere on this site, her innate athleticism has
semi-pigeonholed her into the "action hero" category, which she
doesn't mind. Being pigeonholed isn't something an actor wants,
but being unemployed is even worse!
My, what an odd paradox we have here. Does
he like it or not? It’s another example of his failure to make up
his mind! But I do want to note that today, I cannot stand movies
like the Matrix, because of all the special effects they clogged it
with. It’s the same with the Mummy, released around the same time.
Dear Cap: I'm a huge fan of the Squadron Supreme. I
liked them as a kid in the early '70s, when they were heroes of
a parallel Earth battling the Avengers, and I thought Mark
Gruenwald's magnum opus with the Squadron in 1986 was one of the
best comic series ever produced.
Having said all of that, I'd love to see an ongoing series
with the Squadron. My question to you is, to your knowledge,
would that present legal difficulties for Marvel? Since all of
the members of the Squadron are such obvious (and intentional)
knock-off's of DC's Justice League, I wanted to know if there
were copyright issues that prevented Marvel from using them in
anything other than a limited capacity? Perhaps DC is willing to
"turn the other cheek" regarding the occasional Squadron
appearance, since it's all in good fun, but would not look
fondly upon an ongoing series.
Or perhaps there is no legal issue, but no undercurrent of
support for an ongoing, either. Who knows? Anyway, I was hoping
that you could shed some light on the issue.
Given that Marvel published a year-long maxiseries without a peep
from (usually litigious) DC, I'm guessing that an ongoing wouldn't
present any serious legal obstacles -- particularly since the
concept and characters have veered so seriously from its
tongue-in-cheek beginnings. (Heck, half of the "knock-offs" are
dead!) I'd bet that it's lack of confidence in sales more than
anything that's preventing another series. But, that's just my
opinion -- I could be wrong. If anybody else has any hard
information, I'm all ears.
I have information, and it’s that he’s one
of the most unreliable sources you could speak with on just about
anything. He’s also a coward, is what.
Dear Cap: Longtime reader, first-time writer. A
couple of months back there was a discussion here on the age of
DC's heroes, mainly the Big Seven of JLA, and it was mentioned
that their ages had pretty much been fixed, so that they really
wouldn't be aging; that is, Supes will always be around 29 or
so. Which seemed to make sense, but then I just finished reading
Gotham Knights #17, with all the discussion between Bats and
Nightwing about their relationship and it got me to thinking,
and then I realized the flaw in the fixing of ages: the original
Titans. DC has kept the original sidekicks in their adult ages,
which makes things, I believe more difficult for the JLA. I
mean, Dick Grayson has got to be, realistically, at least 25. I
mean he is a cop, right? And not a rookie one at that. Plus Tim
Drake, the current Robin is -- what, 17? It makes sense that
Nightwing is at the minimum, 25. So that logically makes Bruce
Wayne/Bats at least in his 40s. I mean, he had to have been in
his mid-20s when he took in Dick originally. But, if I remember
correctly, the discussion here had Bruce in his early 30s. Early
30s? I don't think so.
Same goes for Donna Troy, Roy Harper, Garth/Tempest and
Wally West. They have all been portrayed as being at least in
their mid-20s. But if their mentors are all hovering around late
20s to early or mid-30s, this makes no sense. Obviously the
sidekicks are all old enough to be considered adults by their
mentors, with Wally serving as the Flash in JLA. And the others
consider and treat him like an adult, and not a "young adult"
(19-22) but raher as a full-fledged grown-up, which he is.
So, how does one solve the "problem" of the Titans? I don't
know.
Slightly off topic, but not really, I begin to appreciate
more and more the brilliance of Superboy being told he could no
longer age and will always be a teen. Not only does this solve
the problem for DC of how to keep selling Superboy comics in 20
years, but it is also a hilarious metatextual reference/joke on
the whole situation of not aging heroes.
Anyway, I'll stop there, put I just felt the need to throw
in my two cents.
Yup, they've solved the Superboy problem -- but what about Robin,
Impulse, Wonder Girl and the rest of Young Justice? Are they going
to end up in college when Superboy is still hanging out at the
mall?
Anyway, the age discussion, based on various Secret Files, ended
up something like this: Batman is frozen at 37, Superman, Aquaman
and Atom are eternally 35, Green Arrow was 48 when he died (two
years ago) but has come back younger, Hal Jordan was roughly 40
when he died (two years ago) and Barry Allen was around 35 when he
died (five years ago). All of them began their careers a generic
12 years ago. That's from memory, but it's probably pretty close.
Anyway, that makes the spread a little more kosher vis-a-vis the
Titans. Still, if they keep getting older ... !
Yawn. What’s the point of arguing anyone’s
age? In that case, like I’ve said before, Dick Tracy and company
should likewise age into the oldies’ nursing home. And the Peanuts
gang should age too, along with Rex Morgan, Mark Trail, and even
Garfield, whose birthday is celebrated every June 19, but doesn’t
age in the literal sense. Otherwise, even Jon Arbuckle would be a
crusty old cartoonist by now, walking on a cane, and Odie would need
a set of false teeth.
Hello, Cap'n: Here's a follow-up to a note from a
recent Canceled Comics Cavalcade: Cheryl Blossom's cancellation
(which was brought up in your Comics Buyer's Guide column in
issue #1440) is a bit more definite than you may suspect.
A recent issue (#48) of Betty & Veronica Spectacular
told the story of the permanent departure of Cheryl and the
entire Blossom Family from Riverdale. It was, in fact, the cover
feature of that particular issue, although the cover was
designed to keep the identity of the departee a secret. Frankly,
it's a rather lackluster story, and Cheryl deserved something
splashier, but at least we get closure on this one. It was nice
that Cheryl at least GOT a send-off; many of Riverdale's other
supporting players have simply been ignored right out of
existence.
Thanks, […]! Now I know more than I did before, and I appreciate
you letting me know.
Again, I’ve got a hunch he wouldn’t
appreciate anybody telling him Identity Crisis was gender bigotry
incarnate in fiction. He probably wouldn’t even appreciate it if
people told him Roald Dahl was one perverted dude with a vulgar
sense of humor. Or that Enid Blyton was disgusting behind the
scenes. Now for another of my letters:
Dear Cap: Here’s a most surprising discovery I wanted
to tell about:
Remember the discussion a few weeks ago on how Mary Jane
said she wanted to “find herself” when she took off for a
vacation in California? I was reading through the Silly Moments
section a few days ago, when all of a sudden, in the synopsis on
Spider-Man #149, I saw that the clone of Gwen Stacy had made a
similar statement before she left too! I gasped and clapped my
hands over my mouth. It appears to me that the writer of the
2001 Annual, Howard Mackie, had used almost exactly the same
dumb idea as had the writer (Gerry Conway) of Amazing Spider-Man
#149-150!
Wow! How is it that no one else noticed the similarities
lying right under our noses until now?
The good news, happily, is that Mary Jane isn’t a clone
this time (and she’d better not be). Yet the Marxist theory
could still apply here in a manner of speaking. While not as
idiotic as when spoken by Gwen Stacy’s clone, it’s still pretty
stupid. What does “finding oneself” mean anyway? ... When a
person discovers that he or she is adopted, it could be used to
explain that they’re going in search of their family roots. But
in the case of the Gwen clone, it makes no sense. Find herself?
But she already did! If she knows she’s a clone, then what else
is there to find? A job? A new boyfriend/husband? A chance to
become a parent? Whatever, the line simply rings hollow.
And it doesn’t make much sense for MJ to use it either. And
just like you and […], I too found her way of departure a
bummer. Here I’d gotten the issue and was enjoying MJ’s reunion
with all their friends and with Aunt May, and then what happens?
At the end they go and spoil it all with a very far-fetched
departure. Why was she just walking off into the night just like
that? And without any suitcase? Why weren’t Peter and MJ walking
home together so he could help her pack, and then walk her to
the bus station and say goodbye? It all looked very artificial
and stilted to me.
I understand that they’d just wanted to clear the way for
J. Michael Straczynski, but that does not mean that they should
be insulting our intelligence. And most certainly not by using
an implausible line that’s already been used just as
unsuccessfully 26 years ago. Did they get the idea for her to
say that she’d like to “find herself” from that big dud of the
yesteryear? I’m really disappointed that they’d want to be
imitative of something so wretched.
If they really wanted to have her pack off on a vacation
out of town, then here’s what they could’ve done: At one point
during the issue, she staggered out of the house and leaned back
upon the wall. It looked like she was feeling terrible, and it
could be assumed that she’d become claustrophobic from being
locked in a room for a few months by that psychokinetic fiend.
What could’ve been done was to have her tell Peter that her
experience as a prisoner had made her feel scared of being
indoors, not to mention afraid of the dark. And THAT would have
been a plausible reason for her to want to take off.
... That’s why, if Marvel’s editors want to soothe the
audience, then they should take the opportunity to write in a
few scenes until the 50th issue in which MJ gives Peter a phone
call or two. And when she finally does come back, they could do
us a big favor by making their 50th issue a “Marvel Monster,” in
which they reprint three or four of Spidey and MJ’s best moments
together. I sure hope they’ll try something like that, but you
just never know.
I never read the 149th issue of Spider-Man, but to be sure,
it’s a good thing I didn’t. While the first three entries in the
Silly Moments section had me laughing hysterically, the fouth
just had me groaning, and there can be no doubt it is quite the
groaner it appears to be. About the only funny part was the
cover line that said, “Even if I live, I die!”
Still, it does make me curious to know just how effective a
villain The Jackal was. Was he a good one? I wouldn’t be
surprised if the whole 149th issue turned him into a joke.
Well, I was never overly fond of The Jackal from the get-go -- he
just seemed another Green Goblin clone (sorry) to me. Back when
Norman Osborn was dead, Marvel would trot out one "mystery
villain" after another with a Halloween theme who would inevitably
turn out to be ... just who you thought he would be. It all
smacked of recycling old Lee/Ditko plots, but with the original
Goblin dead they'd bring in a ringer. The Jackal turned out to be
(yawn) Peter Parker's professor (just about the only supporting
character he COULD be). The Hobgoblin turned out to be (yawn) Ned
Leeds (just about the only supporting character who wasn't ALREADY
a supervillain). Then the Hobgoblin turned out to NOT be Ned
Leeds, but instead (yawn) The Foreigner (or whoever the backstage
villain was then -- at that point, I'd lost interest).
Incidentally, even if MJ had admitted to having become
claustrophobic, etc., that would still not be cause for her to
leave her husband -- it would be cause to seek trauma counseling,
with her husband present to offer emotional support. If, as was
implied, she couldn't deal with Peter as Spider-Man -- again, that
seems like a counseling problem to me, rather than her up and
leaving, which is tantamount to declaring the marriage over. (Hey,
if my wife left with me with a "find myself"' excuse, or vice
versa, I'd expect that the marriage was in serious, probably
irreparable, shape. Absence, as they say, makes the heart grow
fonder -- of somebody else.) In short, I agree with you: MJ's
departure seemed abrupt and implausible.
Now for some comments on the Comics Code:
Before that, I can only declare his
“agreement” rings false. Mary Jane Watson has largely fallen off his
radar, and he hasn’t commented on the shockingly poor treatment in
nearly 8 years. Like Hans Christian Anderson’s Emperor with no
Clothes, he’s just decided that, “the show must go on.” In fact, so
did the co-writer he mentioned.
I no longer hold the same stupid position on the Conway story that I
used to, because I’d found info and material from ASM #149 since
that makes me decide it’s not the travesty he made it out to be.
That’s not saying Conway didn’t make mistakes in his near quarter
century career. But that tale is far from the dud Mr. Smith wants to
think it is.
Dear Andrew Smith: I am wrtiting in concern of the
letter you wrote of the change in the Marvel Comics' use of the
CCAA. I would like to tell you that I am an avid fan of the
Incredible Hulk. The reason you may ask is simple. I am 19 years
old, and grew up in a large community of people who had quite
lower standards contrary to mine. I had to shell myself with
comic books and schooling. I learned of good and evil from this.
I learned what was right and wrong from my parents, but it was
rreiterated through these comics I read. I want to express my
concern of what will happen to those who are trying to uphold
standards above the "average." I fear that the ways of comics
are turning to that of the movie screen ... Not explicit sex,
but controlled envioroments of sexual situations. Violence that
wouldn't express "go out and do this," but we all know how
children tend to let their minds run.
I'm not saying that since Marvel has dropped the Code, that
all heck will break loose, and I'm not saying that comics need
to be restricted toi my taste only. Each person has the choice
... buy the comic or not ... but what I do worry is that the
courses of each comic will be diverted, and will be distastefull
for me. It saddens me to know that I fear this. What would I
grasp onto as my safeguard? I bid Marvel luck on making good
rating decisions for there comics.
I am sorry if this may have rubbed you the wrong way, but I
feel that we all have a say in this ... I just hope the morals
of Dr. Banner stay strong, and that he will defeat the evil out
there forever.
Rub me the wrong way? Not at all, [name withheld] -- you bring up
some issues worthy of consideration, and I'm pleased to address
them.
First, let me assure you that your concerns vis-a-vis the
Incredible Hulk are probably unfounded. Marvel's plan is to have a
three-tier ratings system, in which "general interest" -- i.e.,
Code-level comics -- will still be the bulk of their output, but
have no obvious rating on the cover. And the existing superhero
books will likely fall into that category.
Secondly, Marvel's move from the Code -- as I said in the article
-- doesn't change anything so much as accept reality as it stands.
Here's another writer with the same concern:
Mr. Smith, on the other hand, has rubbed
me the wrong way with his fluff-coating over the years. That’s not
something I’m happy to say, as a matter of fact, yet if that’s how
he’s going to work, then I have no choice but to speak out against
his brand of “journalism” that owes more to J. Jonah Jameson than
Perry White.
As for sexual situations, I personally try not to worry about those
as much as I do jarring violence, unless said sexual scenes happen
be one-sided depictions of rape, as seen in Identity Crisis. So I’m
disappointed the correspondent chose something rather easy to write
about.
Mr. Smith: I'm a reporter with the [paper name
withheld] and was hoping you could help me with a story I am
writing about the Comics Code. I read a recent column you wrote
about Marvel getting out of the Code and thought it was
interesting. I appreciate that it's outdated and that Marvel
dropping it isn't life-changing. But I'm the mother of a
10-year-old spending his allowance on comics and so wondered
what advice you'd have for me and other parents out there on
this whole Comics Code matter. So far he's spending his money on
the JLA, Superboy and Green Lantern. He occassionally will read
an Archie comic as well. I've felt pretty safe with all that
stuff and just assumed that the Marvel and DC label were pretty
safe. Now I'm wondering whether I'll have to be reading every
Spider-Man comic that comes into my house. I went to a local
comics store here in Evansville and bought one of Marvel's
Code-less debut comics.
Yikes! I'm a flag-bearer for the First Amendment and all
that jazz, but gee whiz, the superhero was in bed with not one,
but two women by the second page! I wouldn't mind that so much
but on the cover of the magazine, where the CCAA stamp used to
be, are the words: "Hey, kids! Look, no code!" And the
advertising is still the same stuff in the Superboy kinds of
comics: Ads for bubble gum, Cheese Nips and chocolate milk.
I guess that's where I am confused. Is Marvel marketing
this stuff to my 10-year-old? I'm grateful for whatever insight
you can offer that I could share with readers.
Normally I wouldn't share an "interview" with my readers, [name
withheld], but I doubt there's much overlap between [paper name
withheld] readers and those of this site. More importantly, your
concerns are legitimate -- and, moreover, seem to be widespread.
So, I'm printing my response to you for the all those who are
concerned.
First, let me make this clear: Neither Marvel nor any of the other
publishers are deliberately marketing "mature" material to
underage readers. Nor do retailers want to sell mature books to
underage readers. That would be professional suicide (not to
mention legally actionable). What they all want to do, however, is
publish and sell mature material for mature readers -- to expand
out of the "children's ghetto" that popular perception has placed
comics in. They don't want your child's allowance; they want
YOURS. So Marvel is setting up to publish material that would
appeal to Stephen King and John Grisham readers, in ADDITION to
continuing all-ages fare for all-ages readers. The blurb you read
on that Marvel comic ("Hey, look! No code!") was a jokey way to
warn RETAILERS and PARENTS that a book that formerly had been
Code-approved wasn't that month. It was a poorly-conceived warning
-- as it does have forbidden-fruit appeal to kids -- but a warning
nonetheless.
From one perspective, what Marvel is doing with its new Code
policy makes a great deal more sense than the existing method. For
example, the non-Code book you picked up -- X-Force #116, from the
sound of it -- had no label of any kind on it, whereas the G- and
PG-rated material your son is already reading (Archie, JLA, Green
Lantern, etc.) DOES have a label on it. In other words, under
current Code policy, a parent is supposed to look for the ABSENCE
of the Code seal to be warned. (Hence X-Force drawing attention to
its absence with the "Hey look" joke.) Now who on Earth is going
to take the time learn these arcane rules?
For example, DC's main superhero books -- the aforementioned JLA,
Green Lantern, etc. -- have a Code seal on them to let you know
they're unobjectionable. DC's PG-17 lines -- Vertigo and WildStorm
-- contain possibly objectionable material but are marketed with
no label of any kind on them. Does that make sense? I think titles
like Vertigo's Lucifer (exploring Biblical questions) and
WildStorm's The Authority (with over-the-top violence and overt
sexual antics) are terrific books -- for ME. I wouldn't want a
10-year-old reading them, and neither does DC. But Lucifer is
often racked right next to Legion of Super-Heroes because the
retailer has no guide to help him and doesn't have the time to
read and sort 4,000 titles a month.
Under Marvel's new policy -- yet to be implemented, which is how
X-Force came out the way it did and deservedly raised your hackles
-- the all-ages material will have no label. So if a Marvel book
doesn't say it's got objectionable material, it won't. Avengers,
Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, X-Men and all the rest of Marvel's
superhero mainstays will be as kid-friendly as they've always
been. There will be a second tier of books that will be more or
less PG-17, which may or may not involve superheroes, but will
have a rating on the cover. (My guess is that X-Force would
probably fall there.) The third tier, a "mature" line, will have
the freedom to do R-rated material, which we can only hope means
content of a mature, thoughtful nature, and not just an excuse to
use blue language and show secondary sexual characteristics. (I
expect that will rest primarily on the skill and maturity of the
editors, writers and artists involved, which means a mixed bag.)
The Mature line will also bear an appropriate warning. (I don't
expect any "X" material of any kind, since that niche is
adequately filled now, and I don't think Marvel wants to be
anywhere near being tarred with that brush.)
So, once Marvel's new policy is implemented, something like
X-Force will have a big, fat "Look Out!" on the cover and will be
stocked in a restricted area in comics shops. By contrast, Uncanny
X-Men and the rest of Marvel's all-ages line will be right up
front in the shop, with no labels.
And make no mistake, Marvel's not about to make Amazing Spider-Man
something parents would object to. The all-ages superhero book is
their bread and butter, and they're not about to throttle the
golden goose by depicting Peter Parker cheating on his wife or
eviscerating an opponent.
What the two new lines will give Marvel the freedom to do is
comics for adults. Yeah, I'm over 40 and I still read Spider-Man.
But the comics medium is a powerful one, and can tell more
powerful stories than just Spidey clocking the supervillain of the
month or monthly soap opera. Adult stories. Stories that ponder
the nature of evil, man's place in the universe, abortion rights,
affirmative action, the death penalty, religion, sexual identity,
and the whole panoply of hot-button issues that adults debate but
have no place in a superhero book geared toward the 10-to-25
crowd. Now those stories will have a place, marketed to adults.
And, going out on a limb here, should a writer come up with a
terrific Spider-Man story that involves Peter Parker cheating on
his wife or eviscerating an opponent -- well, now they've got a
place for it. They can put out Spider-Man Gets a Divorce and Goes
to Jail Funnies with a big, fat label on it with sales restricted
to adults, while your 10-year-old son goes on reading the timeless
Amazing Spider-Man, unaware. And you and I get to read both!
So, in short, here's how to monitor your son's reading habits:
-- Archie Comics are as G as G gets. Always safe.
-- Soon, Marvel Comics (Spider-Man, X-Men) with no label will be G
or PG. Anything with a label on it will be restricted to more
mature readers.
-- With DC (Superman, Batman), it's the reverse. A Code seal means
it's G or PG; no seal means look out. Generally the DC "bullet" on
the cover means G-rated; Vertigo and WildStorm (and its
subsidiaries, Cliffhanger, America's Best and Homage) trade dress
means PG-17.
-- Ditto with Dark Horse Comics. Their licensed books -- Star
Wars, etc. -- go through the Code procedure and have seals. Their
non-licensed books don't go through the Code and none of them have
seals and often contain PG-17 material.
-- Few, if any, other publishers go through the Code and none have
seals. Caveat Emptor.
As you can see, it's a mess. Generally superhero or teen-humor
books are safe as houses, but then an X-Force or a The Authority
comes along. That's why I'm strongly in favor of Marvel's labeling
method, despite my professional, knee-jerk outrage at anything
that treads near the First Amendment. Given my druthers, I'd
extend Marvel's policy to ALL comics, so that a parent's load is
lightened. The publishers ought to take the responsibility, by
adequately monitoring and labeling their own output. Then
retailers would have a consistent, coherent guide to act
responsibly. Then parents would be at ease turning their kids
loose in a comics shop as they do bookstores, while having an
upscale area of their own to browse in.
I recognize the objections a great many professionals and
First-Amendment rights people have to labels. Many suggest that
comics go the way of bookstores, which don't use labels but
instead use canny display methods to separate books.
I doubt that would work, because comics aren't books, they're
periodicals. Futher, comics are uniquely (and unfortunately) fixed
in the minds of most folks as "kiddie fare" and they are outraged
when a "comic" book tells the same kind of story as a Stephen King
novel. That mindset is suffocating the industry, and Marvel and
others are actively working to break it.
Marvel doesn't want to be only kiddie fare -- it wants to break
out of that niche. It wants to put out books that sell to ages 8
to 80. And, right or wrong, this is how they're going about it.
Even if the Big Two aren’t actually
marketing books with suggestive/adult content to children, that’s
still no excuse for promoting gender bigotry in Avengers:
Disassembled and Identity Crisis. Exactly what’s absent from a lot
of his pseudo-commentary.
Dear Cap: Just wanted to add a reference, if you
don't mind. Many people forget (or did not know in the first
place) that Men In Black was adapted from a comic-book
miniseries (produced by Malibu, I believe). More importantly,
Blade, which was an amazingly fun movie, was an ORIGINAL Marvel
character. The books Blade was in were the pits. The storylines
sucked. The books tanked. NEVERTHELESS ... the movie ROCKED!
Wesley Snipes WAS Blade. It was true to the character, good
fight scenes, good storyline, cool weapons, a clear history of
the character, clear motivations, angst, Oedipal references
(very weird), vampires existing in a manner only hinted at in
Interview With A Vampire, and Traci Lords, for all of two
seconds. How could that NOT be one of the GREAT, SUCCESSFUL
comic-book movies of all time? I think it that it was even
better than (uh oh) ... X-Men: The Movie. (Actually, Blade and
Wolverine were played equally well, in my opinion.)
It just seems like many people forget that Blade was a
Marvel comic book FIRST, and that it was quietly VERY
successful, and that it was a true, rare, if not the FIRST,
movie accomplishment by Marvel (Men In Black, while being
created by Malibu and therefore eventually a property of Marvel
Comics, can't really claim "Marvel" status -- not that it needed
to).
In short, I'm thinking the list should go something like
this: . . . blah, blah, blah, comic-book movies, the successful
ones to date being Superman, Batman, Blade and X-Men. Hopefully
MIB 2 and Blade 2 will live up to the originals and not tank the
characters as Superman III and Superman IV, or Batman III and
Batman IV did. Hopefully Spider-Man will continue the movie
excellence found in MIB, Blade and X-Men, so that we can stop
cringing when we hear that there will be yet another movie
adaptation of a comic book.
No cringing? A consummation devoutly to be wish'd! Thanks for
setting the record straight, […]!
Tsk tsk tsk. What is with this screwball
correspondent? Ordinarily, I dislike horror thrillers, but there are
a handful I can read, provided they’re intelligent and not forced.
And Tomb of Dracula is one of those higher-level thrillers, where
Blade debuted, and I don’t see how or why the clown is being
dismissive of that.
But since he brings it up, I gotta ask in all due honesty: do bad
comics really make good movies? Bad novels? I’ve been thinking, and
I’d have to argue that the best answer is “no”. Onto June 20, 2001:
Dear Cap: I just found your site and had a comment
about the Troia information.
<<Further, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Troia
granted her powers by the GREEK pantheon of gods? If The Iliad
is to be believed, the Greeks and the Trojans weren't exactly
the best of friends ... -- Captain Comics>>
In the ancient world, the "Greek pantheon" were known as the
Olympian Gods; historians/mythologists named them the "Greek
pantheon" after their most famous worshippers, the Greeks. The
Olympians were worshipped in Greece, Macedonia, Asia Minor, most
of the Mediterranean Islands (especially Crete). Later on they
were worshipped in Italia, which gave them different names --
Jupiter = Zeus, etc. (thus the Roman pantheon).
Troia was granted her powers by the Titans, who preceded
the Olympians.
As far as the Trojan War goes, the Olympians were divided
over the war; some supported the Greeks, some the Trojans. Hera,
Athena & Poseidon favoured the Greeks (actually Sparta and
her allies); Aphrodite & Ares favoured the Trojans; Zeus
preferred the King Priam of Troy but chose to remain impartial;
Apollo was neutral sometimes helping one side then the other.
Thanks for the update, […] -- I've actually already addressed that
issue a couple of times, where I shamefacedly admitted that I
stretched a point vis-a-vis the gods to make a joke. But I don't
think I stretched it much, given that Themyscira is thoroughly
Greek and I doubt they'd be thrilled about such a high-profile
member of the royal family being named for a traditional enemy
(Troy). It would be like if the Turks also worshipped the
Greco-Roman gods, and Donna named herself Turkia. The sharing of
gods is a nice palliative, but the name is almost incendiary to a
Greek-based culture.
And, yes, to us the Trojan War was centuries ago. But to the
immortal Amazons of Themyscira, it's probably pretty current
politics.
As ever, further debate is welcome.
He may not have stretched certain things
much, but he certainly did obscure vital info very much! Yet he
remains as shameless as ever.
Dear Cap'n: In the last Mailbag you mentioned the
"forbidden fruit" aspect of the Code warning blurb on X-Force
#116. Another correspondent wrote about how comics influence
kids. Both of these got me thinking ...
Amazing Spider-Man #250 featured a cover box with the
Hobgoblin saying "It's great! Steal it!" So I did.
Okay, so I didn't. My mom bought it for me a couple years
after it came out at a flea market. But wouldn't that have been
great? Sometimes I wished I could steal it just to satisfy some
twisted sense of irony or humor.
Marvel used to have the greatest cover blurbs. I remember
an issue that said "If this one doesn't have it, you don't need
it!" I bought into that wholeheartedly too. For the kid that I
was Marvel hype was a beautiful thing.
I also wanted to comment on the obsession with continuity
issue. For me, after I read enough stories about them, the
characters were like old friends. My old friends don't get a new
origin every week.
For example, there's not an "Ultimate" version of my friend
[…] that doesn't come from Albequerque, where he used to set
dumpsters on fire. I know where he's coming from, because he
doesn't act like a different person every time I see him. Peter
Parker used to be like that.
'Course, he still could be, and sometimes is (check out
that Paul Jenkins guy). I'm not asking for fascination with what
he ate for breakfast 10 years ago, just a consistent character.
For why people like to remember it, I think it's fun.
People like to memorize baseball scores, Civil War trivia. The
more deeply involved you get in something the more fun it can
be.
Hmmmm. Fun. Now there's a concept.
And those old Silver Age Marvel cover blurbs were great! (Not to
mention the old Bullpen Bulletins and letters pages!) Stan Lee
gets a lot of flak these days for being "on" all the time, and for
hyperbole. What those critics miss is how NEW that all was in the
'60s and '70s, when DC was stodgy as a sawhorse and the other
companies (Gold Key, Charlton, etc.) were mostly utter crap. Lee's
hyperbole (and the innovative, groundbreaking books) made us feel
like the "in" crowd, people who were part of a special club. That
approach has been copied and Xeroxed and beaten to death so much
since -- witness any solicitation material these days -- that it
has lost its original charm and become grating. But that's not
Stan's fault -- he did it first -- and I still chuckle when I look
at those old Marvels.
Oh for crying out loud. Here he goes with
the risky claim companies other than Marvel were nothing but junk,
to which I fully disagree. And the correspondent is no better, since
he was a radical leftist apologist for Islamofascism. One can only
wonder what people like him think of apostates by contrast.
These Ultimate books are a total puzzle, unless the
"ultimate" plan is to build this line up and do away with the
original universe. Which would alienate the people that have
supported this company over the years. All I know is if I bought
Ultimate Spider-Man or X-Men and liked it, then bought one of
the original universe books and found the characters and
continuity TOTALLY different, I would be majorly confused and at
best just buy the Ultimate books or drop them all. Getting
people to by two or three titles regularly IS NOT going to save
that company.
And I still don't see any real re-entry into the
newsstands/mass market. Marvel still seems bent on trying to
reach their readers through the ever-dwindling comic shops.
Isn't about time that Marvel, DC, Image and whoever else band
together to try to start there own network of comic book shops
similar to the WB stores (yes, I know ...) and Disney Stores?
Marvel tried to set up its own distribution system (Heroes World),
and served only to collapse the existing system into a single
distributor (Diamond). I don't think anybody's going to touch that
hot potato for a while.
As to the Ultimate comics line, I haven't seen it on the
newsstands either, despite Marvel's announced intention to do
exactly that. Perhaps they're gambling on the Ultimate magazine
line, which does reach newsstand markets. Or perhaps they're
meeting more newsstand distributor resistance than they expected.
Time will tell ...
The Ultimate line is indeed a puzzler in
retrospect, but so too is Mr. Smith. I ask, how can he live with
himself, knowing he’s done disfavors to many people?
<<Now for my challenge to you: Can you (or the
Legion of Superfluous Heroes) make an argument for buying
monthly comics? And please do not use the easy excuses such as
“They are a good financial investment” (they’re not; only the
occasional issue increases in value), “We need the comics to
subsidize the TPBs” (I don’t get that argument ... traditional
books are published without first being serialized, and that
industry has consistently flourished), etc.>>
I can think of two reasons:
1) You will be left behind on comic chats and message
boards. No one cares about the TPB of some Superman story DC
originally printed a year ago. They only care about what's
happening in the titles at the moment. I know this because for
some reason I get my JLA comic in the mail practically a month
after its in the comic stores. So while I want to chat about the
issue I just got they're already talking about the next issue.
Plus when I do post about TPBs I have bought I get fewer
responses than if I would to post about the current issue or
just silly off the top of my head. This business is a month to
month venture, not a yearly one.
2) Not every story or title will be reprinted. I doubt
we'll see Hourman or Martian Manhunter get one. So you don't
want to buy one of the endless JLA, Superman, Batman,
Spider-Man, X-Men, etc., titles. That's fine. But buy one of the
other books that don't sell as well or as much as the others do.
That way publishers will make more titles and TPBs of characters
who aren't as big as a Supes/Bats/Spidey etc.
<<I was thinking about something today and I'm interested
to see what you and others think. Which do you prefer,
miniseries/one-shots or crossovers, where continuity is
affected?>>
I feel that unless it launches a new title (like they will
being doing with Deadman soon) miniseries/maxiseries/one-shots
are really just an extra story. My favorite maxiseries is the
JLA: Year One story. Is it a great story? Yes. Is it a necessary
story? Not really. I will buy one-shots/mini/maxiseries, but
only if I have extra money, discounted, or in TPB form.
I'm a sucker for crossovers for one reason, I LOVE it when
a bunch of heroes band together or simply guest star in another
title. It makes me pick them up, if only for a month or two. My
favorite DC titles are the old DC Comics Presents and Brave and
the Bold. That's actually how I got introduced to a great number
of DC characters. If Marvel does their Ultimate Marvel Team-Up
this way it would be great. Although I will wait until the
upcoming "Our Worlds At War" story to hit TPB until I buy that.
Too little money to buy all the chapters.
Thanks, […]! Here's still more:
Before that, I want to argue that even
then, it was disappointing to see some people still argue in favor
of an outmoded format. Especially when they seem so fine with
crossovers, the idea that ruined superhero comics.
Hi! I was reading your latest Mailbag, and wanted to
reply to [name withheld]'s claim that monthly comics are going
the way of the dinosaur. I'd like to respond in two parts: why
this should not happen, and why it will not.
First, I support your claim that it's necessary.
Economically, this unique industry (I'll get to that later)
would not be able to support itself. You've explained this, so
I'll avoid the redundancy. If comic books became TPBs, graphic
novels and other square-bound releases that were fairly
infrequent, then the demand for them would be so great, that
publishers would more than likely make more to fill this demand.
What would ensue is a regular stream, perhaps monthly, of comic
books that were more expensive than the regular edition. No
doubt, continuity will spill over into those square-bound books,
so essentially, what would happen is a regular stream of larger
comic books, for double the price. This would have […] digging
an even bigger hole for himself. The final point I'd like to
make here is that elimination of the monthly format would take
away the fun of comic collecting. The regular comic book has
great advantages, and I, along with many others, would not
tolerate seeing the death of such a beautiful medium.
Some of its true followers, who enjoy the entire comic-book
"experience," such as myself, would be dismayed at the death of
the regular format. This monthly release of books provides its
fans with something to look forward to, to satiate their
curiosities. To eliminate the monthly format would ruin one of
the most profound properties of this great medium. Every 30-ish
days the latest ish of Whatever Comics comes out with a new
adventure, or a new twist on an adventure through the story
arc's continuation. For me, personally, I like this. I like
being able to afford a book month after month on a regular
basis, and I like the anticipation of another good story
(hopefully). I don't think I'm that alone. Patience builds
character, but I guess that's just me. Plus, I don't think the
writers and illustrators would be keen on doing twice the work
in the same time span (refer to my above claim that larger books
would become more frequent).
Why not just buy a regular old book, without pictures? This
sounds like what […]'s preference is. I'm sure many others
agree. I'm kind of one of them. Having been out of comics for a
while, I'm just getting back into it. I know of the happenings
in Gotham and Metropolis, but don't have the story in front of
me. TPBs are great for this purpose. And I totally understand
[…]'s economic reasons. I'm a student in university, and I move
around a lot in terms of living quarters. Monthly comics would
be too expensive and too bulky to suit my needs. However, the
nostalgia behind the comic will forever remain a passion. Why
have radios and newspapers stayed in existence in light of
technological advancements, like TVs and the Internet? They all
have unique properties that are insatiable any other way.
Reading a newspaper online, for example, does do the same basic
thing, but one misses out on the crossword, some of the catchy
ads, the chess puzzle, and just the feel of the newspaper. It is
easier on the eyes, too. Anticipation is good, it gives people
something to look forward to in the next issue. How good would
Star Wars be if the original trilogy was only one movie (which
was the plan originally, if I'm not mistaken), even if it was a
four-hour epic? The writers are smart to play on our
curiosities. It's good business, and a well done storyline, like
"Emerald Twilight" (GL #49 was a dandy of a cliffhanger.
Sinestro at the end? GREAT!) will have the reader coming back
for more. I think, in the end, to have an epic within a monthly
publication will keep the fans coming back, and it gives the
regular title some meat. The regular title's single-ish stories
are about the characters lives. The story arcs are an event. The
monthly publication is needed to give background to these events
for them to have meaning and be interesting. I don't see how a
regular night patrolling the streets of Gotham would make for an
interesting TPB, nor worth more than $5. To have all TPBs would
kill the thrill, and the economics, of the comic-book lover.
<<After all, it's not YOUR responsibility to keep the
publishers flush; they ought to figure how to do that
themselves!" -- Captain Comics>>
Well, yeah, it is our responsibility, at least in part. If
people don't buy the monthly titles -- even those that WON'T
eventually be collected -- then the publishers won't be able to
afford to put out collections. After all, why reissue something
that didn't have a great demand in the first place? (It'd be
like bringing back New Coke for a second try.)
If, on the other hand, people support a project when it
first comes out, then it is more likely to be reprinted. Often
-- although not always -- the collection is less expensive than
the originals. That way, anyone who didn't want the series
originally but changed their minds after a story receives good
reviews can afford it, even when the original issues are hard to
find or skyrocketing in price -- or both.
This also applies to reissuing hardcover graphic novels as
softcovers. $25 may just be Too Darn Expensive for some people
but the may be able to for over $15 for the same story under a
different cover. (Kinda like Plymouth. The Prowler has this
great retro look and is very popular but is also very expensive.
Solution? The PT Cruiser. Same retro look, much cheaper price.)
Thanks, […], for your passionate defense of the monthly
periodical. In defense of my own remark, let me state more
thoroughly what I meant. The deal is, the 32-page format is
proving to be economically unviable. What I meant was that the
publishers need to find a format that meets our budget and has
appealing content -- it's not our job to continue supporting the
32-page format when we increasingly can't afford it, regardless.
While I’m well aware of the price
problems, that was solved through B&W collections like Marvel
Essentials and DC Showcase, which are cheaper than color archives.
In any case, I’ve noticed that a lot of paperbacks tend to be
cheaper than a 6-part story put together. Including some very
offensive stories costing nearly 4 dollars that I won’t get into at
this particular moment, though I will say the written-for-trades
problem has long gotten way out of hand.
Hi Cap'n: In "Next Week's Comics" you wrote:
<<GREEN LANTERN: OUR WORLDS AT WAR #1: The Emerald
Crusader's role in DC's summer super-crossover begins with him
trying to do something about the missing planet Pluto. You know,
I'd forgotten all about that! When and why did Pluto go missing
-- anybody remember? And wouldn't that seriously affect our
solar system's orbital mechanics?>>
I dunno about Pluto vanishing, but it wouldn't make any real
effect if it did. Pluto is by far the smallest and lightest of
the planets; it's smaller than the Moon, and it's density is so
low that about half of it must be made of ice. In fact, there
was a serious effort a few years back in the astronomy community
to have its status downgraded from planet to planetesimal (a
planetary building block). It failed, but the only real reason
to keep calling Pluto a planet is historical; when it was
initially discovered it was thought to be about Earth-sized, and
it was years before its true size was known. If it was
discovered today no one would call it a planet.
In fact, Pluto is so small that Neptune's gravity has it
locked into its current orbit. Every time Neptune orbits the Sun
twice, Pluto orbits three times. When you're dealing with two
bodies, one much larger than the other, this arrangement is
gravitationally stable, at least over the lifetime of the Solar
System, so Pluto's going nowhere by itself. (This is almost
certainly not a coincidence. Evidence is accumulating that in
the early days of the Solar System, the major planets wandered
about some, Jupiter most likely moving inwards, and Uranus and
Neptune most likely moving outwards. Once the orbits of Neptune
and Pluto fell into the 3:2 arrangement, Pluto was forced to
move with Neptune until the orbits stopped evolving.)
Incidentally, despite the fact Pluto crosses over Neptune's
orbit, this arrangement also ensures Neptune is nowhere near
when the crossings happen, so we don't have to worry about
collisions.
Thanks […]! All those astronomy courses in college, and I
apparently didn't learn a darn thing. But I'm always glad to learn
something new!
Obviously, he never took morality courses,
nor any courses that would help him figure out how to spot subtle
propaganda, like his own. What good is astronomy when you don’t know
morality? Now for two in one:
Hi, Cap: I wanted to chime in concerning recent
Mailbag chat about Kevin Smith's Green Arrow revamp. (Mild
spoiler alert, with a major one to come.)
Issue #4's reunion of Ollie with the JLA was a hoot, and
crammed a ton of characterization into a small number of pages.
I've been out of the loop a lot lately (GA is the first book
I've bought regularly in years), but I'm guessing that some of
that characterization -- I'm particularly thinking of Aquaman --
is inconsistent with current lore. It's pretty inconsistent with
the Silver Age Aquaman I remember too. Still, I really enjoyed
the pinko-vs.-monarch bickering, even if it did seem unlikely it
would have happened so quickly after GA witnessed his finny pal
"suddenly" bearded, handless and lethal -- and Aquaman saw a
long-dead friend resurrected.
One of my favorite moments -- in spite of myself -- touched
on ANOTHER recent Mailbag topic, the "primary colors are for
heroes, secondary colors are for villains" axiom. The green-clad
archer mourning Aquaman's lost orange shirt was pure sitcom
shtick, but it cracked me up -- and it argues for the addition
of "second-string heroes" to the secondary colors clause.
MAJOR SPOILER ALERT!
Concerning speculation in recent Mailbags about the
identity of the "Star City Slayer" in Kevin Smith's Green Arrow
series, I had thought that Mr. Smith was planting loads of
"green herrings" to fool us into thinking GA's gay benefactor,
Stanley Dover, is the Slayer. But there's been talk on the DC
boards that Stanley Dover was the star of an obscure '60s comic
series, "Stanley and his Monster," and some pretty convincing
argument -- to someone who knows nothing of that series -- that
the beast in the bell jar is the titular monster. I bet Smith
will give Stanley a loophole -- demonic possession, hypnosis or
something -- to allow Stanley to become a gay Alfred, but it
looks like he may in fact be the shadow figure we've been
seeing. Do you know anything about that series, or the likely
truth of the rumor?
Thanks as always for the site, and take care.
I think it almost goes without saying that Stanley is Stanley, and
the monster in the jar is the Monster. As to the mystery child
molester ... well, here's more:
Dear Cap: Hey, I've been reading Green Arrow. Do you think that
old guy is supposed to be Stanley, and the big, dog thing is his
Monster? The really obvious hints that Smith is dropping about
that guy that took Ollie in being the killer are great. It might
even be funnier if he didn't throw a curve ball and just let it
be him.
I loved the Phil Foglio version of Stanley and His Monster
and Angel and the Ape from the early '90s. I read DC is going to
do a swingin' Vertigo version. Probably put go-go checks on it.
And speaking of Foglio (glances furtively about, hushes
voice to a whisper), I followed a link that somebody on the
Warren Ellis forum on Delphi sent me back when I sent them a
list of my favorite comic-book sites, including yours. The forum
is a little ... different sometimes, but Ellis posts there a
lot. Just the other day he told me to grow up.
Anyway I clicked the link. It was a comic-book p*** site
and, in addition to a lot of Minara scans and disgusting (in
ways too bizarre really to describe) manga I found:
Foglio p***. And not hack work. Right up there with his
regular standards. Don't know why I shared that, really.
Other stuff department:
People trash Mark Gruenwald's Captain America more than it
deserves. Granted it was never well written, but it had it's
moments. I just re-read my favorite issue yesterday.
On the cover Nomad is pounding on this monsterously fat
guy, the Slug. Cap is standing there in horror and saying "Stop
it Nomad! You're killing him!" A maniacal-looking Nomad replies
"That's the idea Cap!"
Inside Nomad infiltrates the luxury yacht of the Slug, a
big fat guy so unoriginal that he dips his enemies in a vat of
slugs. Ya know, cause he's called the Slug.
There's some kind of mystery, but when Cap arrives and all
hell breaks loose Nomad responds by starting a grease fire. He
tries to kill the Slug. When the Slug gets away he leaves the
Slug's thugs and, though it really doesn't seem to get through
to him, Cap to die in the fire.Cap finally comes up for air
after trying to rescue the Slug. Nomad pretends not to know who
started the fire. In the last panel the Slug's fat pops him up
to the surface.
Let's see Mark Waid come up with something like that
without the influence of heavy drug abuse.
I have a weakness for big, monster, fat guys whose main
power is fatness-derived. Remember when Spider-Man would punch
the Blob and his fists would just sink right in the fat? Boy,
that was cool. Bouncing Boy used to be cool, too, before they
took (away) his powers. I also like Big Bertha of the Great
Lakes Avengers, Herbie the Fat Fury, Valiant's Zephyr, etc.
Lady Vic is just a sarcastic knickname? That ranks up there
with Jean Grey for stupidest codename ever. (And see, that
reinforces my point. I'd have to read a whole other book that
probably came out a long time ago to find that out.)
You wrote:
<<As to what she was doing (in Birds of Prey), the best
term I can come up with is "baggage." -- Captain Comics>>
"Baggage" cause they locked her in the trunk, right? Funnnny.
Ministry of Space is kind of blah. The real story is much
more interesting. Even though we (the U.S.) didn't get a
rocketplane.
The white ape the Ultra-Humanite? Nah, I meant Solovar.
They killed him in JLAPE, by the way.
I likes me a comic-book monkey story. Recommendations Cap?
My comic-book guy told me he has no, and I mean no, kids as
regular comic-book customers. Nada. They come in to buy cards,
videogames and toys but not comics. Most of his customers are
twentysomething men like me, he said. His theory? Kids don't
read no more. Obviously they don't read comics, at least not in
[location withheld], where I live.
I think it is blatantly obvious that Green Arrow's graying patron
is the formerly young Stanley, and that his Monster is locked up
in that bell jar. Whether he's the mystery child molester or not
has been debated on this site, with the consensus being that we
all hope not, because it would be too obvious (from a storytelling
standpoint).
I think we've established that Lady Vic is short for Lady Victim.
Or maybe Victoria. Or maybe Vichysoisse. I forget. Who cares? Dull
character, dumb mask, bad colors (red and yellow) for a secret
assassin.
Comic-book monkey stories? The Silver Age was full of 'em, from
Gorilla Grodd appearances in Flash to Beppo and Titano appearances
in Superman to apes in baseball uniforms in "Strange Sports
Stories." Not to mention Detective Chimp!
And it's no surprise that Phil Foglio has done p*** comics -- a
lot of comics artists have, if for no other reason than to pay the
rent. Richard Moore, the artist on NBM's Boneyard, does beautiful
PG work on that title -- but he got his start doing Horny Tails
for NBM's Amerotica.
I think it’s blatantly obvious Mr. Smith
wouldn’t know common sense if it came into his living room and
started playing a loud trumpet and tuba. And while Lady Vic may be a
villainess, I’ll still argue that it’s stupid to act as though a
fictional character is to blame for dullness rather than the writer
(at the time, Chuck Dixon). Yes, even with baddies in fiction, you
have to be more intelligent than what Mr. Smith ever proved being.
Dear Cap: It is too bad about Martian Manhunter. In a
stronger market, he might have made it.
X-Men: The Hidden Years: I am sure the creative teams
behind DC Comics Presents and the other Superman titles were
wondering why DC was canceling those profitable titles (in 1986)
for the John Byrne relaunch of Superman in Man of Steel. Marvel,
however, should also have canceled Cable, X-Men Unlimited and
X-Force and stopped the multiple and seemingly never-ending
miniseries. It also should not started X-Treme X-Men, The Exiles
and The Brotherhood.
Speaking of X-titles, after all the renumbering/restarting
that has occurred at Marvel over the last few years, you would
think Marvel would have renumbered/restarted X-Force. It has
both a new creative team and an entire new cast of characters
with no relation to any prior group/team.
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised by that, too. And I couldn't agree with
you more that Marvel didn't stop soon enough canceling X-traneous
X-titles, and it seems foolish to crank up with even MORE
X-traneous X-titles. But, I suppose Cable is SOMEBODY'S favorite
book. And I do enjoy the new X-Force and -- to an extent --
Exiles.
Here's another vote for the demise of Cable:
Even then, his statement about
cancellations was a giggle-inducer. There would be more to come
within just a short amount of time. Now for that other letter about
Cable, which was written by me, and contains a “comparison” I feel
very embarrassed about when I look back at what I wrote today,
including my own flawed take on a fictional character:
Thanks for your reply on Cable (and also for adding
me to the LSH page). To which let me add this hopefully helpful
response:
You’re quite right that Cable is quite a drag. I’ve never
mentioned it before, but even I find the character boring for
many of the same reasons that you do. And what’s the main reason
why he’s so dull? Quite simply, because he’s got absolutely no
personality.
To put it this way, the idea of a character who was whisked
into the future, and returned to the present after having
exceeded his parents in age is a fairly interesting idea, but
the cleverness stops there. Since Nathan Summers has no
personality, nor anything to love or hate, that ruins
everything. It is a solid personality that’s required to make a
character click, and most peculiarly, as of today, Marvel’s
staff has not tried in any way to develop him. Or maybe they
have, and they’ve found it to be as easy as trying to fix
Humpty-Dumpty.
That’s also one of the main reasons why I haven’t read that
many issues (of Cable) in the past eight years of its existence.
In fact, I never got to read the first issue; when I first came
upon it, it was only by the second and third issues (to say the
least, I haven’t read it in a straight or a complete line),
although that’s not saying I missed anything, to be sure. And
when I began reading it, well, duh, it looked pretty dull. And
when I tried reading a few issues during 1996, well, even then
there was no sign of improvement. It was during 1998 that I read
at least 10 issues one after the other, and by then it turned
out to be REALLY boring. No persona, no social life, no nothing,
and even the Yoda-like “mentor” who turned up around then was
almost non-existent. By last year, I had fully given it up.
All in all, it could be said that Cable is a very badly
underdeveloped character who’s popularity is totally
inexplicable, just like Gambit. The rumor mill has it that the
writers have been thinking of giving him a right-wing
“personality,” but even then, I doubt if that could help. And
besides, doesn’t Wolverine already have a very right-wing
personality? (It could also be a left-wing personality, but I
just wouldn’t know.)
If Cable is popular, than it’d surely be a case that’s
comparable to NBC-TV’s CHiPs, one of the dumbest TV shows I ever
saw when I was young, and which I’ll remember as having one of
the silliest music scores of all time (it sounded like a
“winding, grinding” radio and it sometimes drives me crazy to
hear it these days), not to mention a whole lot of strangely
old-fashioned dialogue to boot. This big nothing somehow managed
to run from 1977 to 1983 and even had a revival telefilm shown
on TNT back in late 1998, apparently due to the viewership of
mindless tots such as myself. It was built almost entirely of
car and motorcycle chases and there was almost no story, no
character development, no plot, no nothing; just an hour or so
of Larry Wilcox and Erik Estrada riding around as if they were
on Candid Camera dishing out a whole lot of corny and
forgettable dialogue.
And in many ways, Cable suffers from some, if not all, of
the same problems. There’s no character development, and the
story and dialogue are forgettable. And, as mentioned before,
he’s got nothing to love or hate, he doesn’t try dating girls or
getting a social life, and all he does is fight, fight, fight.
But what exactly? Does he try looking for (those in the) service
of Apocalypse? I just can’t figure it out.
If you ever keep track of the video games that Capcom has
made that are based on Marvel, this reminds me that in Marvel
vs. Capcom 2 they didn’t make him any more interesting either: I
saw the game a year ago, and it looked to me like they didn’t
even provide him with any super-powered attacking skills either;
rather than use his telepathy and his telekinesis, he seemed to
be using firearms, such as pistol with which he fires 3 rounds,
and for a super attack, a plasma rifle. In fact, it was kinda
funny as to how he was animated, and how he walked back and
forth, swinging that silly pistol at his side.
Well how about that. A dull character makes an even duller
videogame character. Capcom’s Street Fighter formula had really
begun to run out of steam around then anyway.
Strangely enough, I somehow found X-Man slightly more
interesting. Not always -- it also could be tedious at times,
and I didn’t read all of the issues of that either -- but there
were a few story arcs there that I took an interest in, such as
where Nate Grey tried to help this young mutant named Threnody,
and even where he cloned Madeleine Pryor. This showed me that he
on the other hand had something to love, which would be women.
(That isn’t saying, of course, that I approve of all
resurrections. Of course I agree with you that some characters
should stay dead.) But most of the rest of the time, even that
title struck me as boring, and by last year, I’d given up X-Man
too.
Whatever, you’re certainly right overall that both Cable
and X-Man are far too hard for anyone who doesn’t read such
comics to understand, and I’m not bothered at all if X-Man’s
gone for good. Will he be added to the BotD? Probably. And as
for Cable, well, I’d say it's about time that he got the
heave-ho as well. And if he’s popular, than why, I wonder? Very
strange. Unfortunately, unless anybody writes in to the Comics
Cave to tell why they find it so great, we may never know.
To conclude, let provide a link to a pretty good review
from the Cleveland Free Times of Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest
Kid on Earth, by Chris Ware.
http://www.freetimes.com/issues/923/arts-word1.php3
It’s a good book that sadly didn’t get as much attention as
it could’ve in the Comics Cave. I really wish that [withheld]
could’ve reviewed it, but he didn’t. But in the meantime, here’s
a good review of it. And I’m so happy that it got some awards.
Frankly, I was completely unaware of Jimmy Corrigan until it was
nominated for all those awards -- it completely slipped under the
radar.
And I couldn't agree with you more about Cable. The character is
convoluted, his personality seemingly non-existent, and his
actions inconsistent and unexplained. But somebody, somewhere
likes Cable -- and I wish they'd enlighten me as to what I'm
missing!
Man, do I feel so STUPID making that
negative comment on Chips after all these years. It was written at a
time when I apparently didn’t have the ability to appreciate some of
the best TV shows that make great alternatives to modern messes, and
would make perfect templates for what to try to today. I don’t stand
by that statement anymore. It was apparently based on a faint memory
of what I thought I’d known about Chips from years before, and a
slapdash viewing from 1992, last time I’d actually seen it till
recently. I thought it just went by a superficial template of having
a busload of mini-stories in one episode, and even then, I didn’t
think about how entertaining it still was.
Today, in recent times, I got to see all 6 seasons, 139 episodes and
the reunion TV movie, and got to polish up my exact understandings.
In the first season, it was several stories within an episode with
at least one main, and in the second season, these were usually
pared down to just 2 or 3 in an episode to make it more managable,
as the producers expanded to focus more on the cast of characters,
bringing in performers like Lou Wagner as the CHP division’s main
mechanic, Randi Oakes as a lady patrolwoman, and Paul Linke for
comedy relief.
And what was I saying about no character development? There most
definitely was. Frank Poncherello was established as having grown up
a rebel from a Latino ghetto who’d once gone around with a gang, but
worked hard to get out of the ghetto and find better status. He was
also quite a ladies’ man. In the second season, he got himself an
apartment in Marina Del Ray, one of LA's fanciest neighborhoods. Jon
Baker was the more straight-laced partner, and at the beginning it
was established that they were assigned to work together since Ponch
had made some mistakes putting him on a probationary status. And,
Baker was usually quite the ladies man too; there were some pretty
hot women featured during the run, and enjoyable comedic elements
too.
So regarding what I very stupidly said at the time, I no longer
stand by that, and I’m glad I’ve woken up and smelled the coffee
since. It was not a good “analogy” to make regarding Cable. The Law
& Order franchise would make a much better one.
As for the X-books, as of today, I’m also less interested in X-Man,
which was no better. And I decidedly fell way short of the mark with
how to criticize anything surrounding Cable too. I shouldn’t have
said he should be wiped out, if that’s what I was driving at. That
won’t make things any better, and only makes it worse. This may not
be the worst result of a onetime terrible approach I once had, but I
think my take on the subject still stinks, and I’m glad I changed it
since. Today, I do my best to follow the Mark Gruenwald argument.
Dear Cap: I know you probably pick up on most things
on Newsarama, but I found this article which discusses why so
many of the top comic writers and artists today seem to come
from the UK:
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000010.html
It's actually a well-thought-out and -written article, even
if it does miss out on or two things (such as Jamie Delano and
James Robinson being British). I can even see why Grant Morrison
cites the influences he does -- I come from a similar
background, despite been a scientist and not an artist ...
Anyway, what did you think of what it had to say?
I also thought it was a well-done article, and it certainly was a
thumbsucker, as we say in the newspaper biz.
As to why so many top writers are British, I have to go along with
the idea of "different perspective." Most American comics writers,
as the article points out, come from a pretty similar background
-- upper middle class, long-time comics fans, U.S. public school
system. There's very little difference between, say, how Mark Waid
grew up and how Kurt Busiek grew up. (Or, for that matter, how the
Captain grew up.) The Brit (and Irish and Scottish) writers, by
contrast, come from a different experience -- a different
education system (with emphasis on different subjects), a
different experience vis-a-vis reading (fewer U.S. comics and more
UK/international comics, plus greater exposure to a wider variety
of literature), a different socioeconomic standpoint (often blue
collar, and NOT residents of the world's last remaining
superpower, and therefore having fewer assumptions about
inevitable upward mobility and possessed of a bleaker worldview),
and -- I hope I'm forgiven this -- they come from a culture where
streetfights are much more common (despite America's reputation
for violence, I've never heard of American "football hooligans"
erupting after a game, I've never been in a bar fight, and,
frankly, I've never seen a physical altercation of any kind as an
adult).
So, my take is that to some degree you could credit the UK school
system, but overall I think it's just that English/Scottish/Irish
writers bring a different sensibility to their writing, and
different is exciting. Plus -- and, again, I hope I can be
forgiven this -- I think they bring a much more pessimistic stance
to their stories, which appeals to teenagers, who in general like
to affect cynicism and worldweariness. The upshot is that I think
that as soon as THAT perspective becomes the status quo, another,
newer one will take its place, and we'll be talking about why so
many Japanese or French or Brazilian writers are so popular in
America.
Of course, that's just my opinion. What's yours?
Mine is that UK writers have brought
incredibly superfluous influence upon USA comics, and coupled with
their increasing left-wing politics, they’re bringing them down to a
very low level that Mr. Smith seems uninterested in arguing about.
Dear Captain: Older heroes in comics always end up
being something like the "old cop and young rookie" movies:
Green Lanterns (name the mix), the Flash (name the mix), Captain
American and Nomad, Wolverine & Jubilee, Batman & Robin.
The old guy is staid in his ways and the young guy just wants to
rush in and start blasting away. This mix in bigger supergroups
has had mixed results at best.
But there have been good mixes of those in comics. My
favorite team of mix and match, young and old was the
Giffen/DeMatteis JLA (I know, I know, I plug this all the time).
The old pros (Martian Manhunter, Batman, Black Canary) with the
hothead (Guy Gardner) and the young and naive (Blue Beetle and
Captain Marvel).
Second to that has been the new JSA. To give a great
example of that was the Secret Files JSA in which Jack Knight
and Wildcat box and talk out their differences. Besides I think
Wildcat has been done a great disservice by having to wear that
darn silly costume. Can he please be given something that
doesn't make the villains laugh and fall to the ground?
The Avengers have never been able to impress me with whom
they invite into their ranks when the new/young heroes come
around. My favorite Avengers teams have always been the Big
Three with a mish-mash of old pros. The only time I've liked
Triathlon wasn't even in the Avengers; it was his guest spot in
Black Panther.
As for the reason that older characters need to be there is
when all there is are Young Turks, it becomes self-important
whining. Gen13 is godawful, with the whining and
self-importance. Same with Generation X and the latest version
of the New Warriors. And though the Titans have the mix of old
and young pros, they're mostly young whiners who can't see
beyond their own problems (I blame Jay Faerber for all of this,
really).
And I wanted to put in my two cents on crossovers. I got
suckered once on crossovers and never again. Only if I happen to
be getting those books do I read the story. It's right up there
with foil, embossed, variant covers for me.
I do like the ones that try to have a crossover serve the
purpose of the story, but so few do. The impetus is always to
help a lagging title with sales. And I don't like being forced
to buy a title that was pretty awful in the first place.
The only time I got close was the "Evolutionary War" story
in the Marvel annuals 'round about 1988 or so (off the top of my
head). The only reason I liked them was because of the story
that ended it was so good; the Avengers Annual for that year.
Written by Walt Simonson, pencilled by Mark Bright (my favorite
underrated artist) and inked by Mike Gustovich (where is this
guy; loved his work), it told the story of a rag-tag team of
Avengers thwarting the last-ditch attempt of the High
Evolutionary to change the Earth.
Simonson did some truly impressive things with what could
have been a toss-off annual. He took plot threads that were
dangling here and there and spun them into a very good tale. The
Avengers had been disbanded because of Nebula/Doctor Druid
debacle. Captain America was the Captain in the black & red
costume & vibranium shield. He brought together the Captain,
the Falcon, the Beast (my favorite when he comes back to the
team), Hercules (in a return to the fold after a lengthy hiatus)
and Yellowjacket II (an annoying impostor, but almost gets rid
of it here). Naturally, they storm the fortress and save the
day, with a few bumps here and there.
If you want to see why Simonson is so good as a writer,
pick it up. He's really a consumate storyteller.
That's all I got, thanks for venue.
And thanks for the opinions, [name withheld]! And now, a bunch
of letters on my column about Marvel dumping the Comics Code:
Before we turn to any of that, I voice my
disagreement with the correspondent on JSA, having gradually changed
my mind over the years. I may have said this once, but any trades of
the Johns/Goyer tales I once owned were later sold off, and I don’t
miss them one bit. But, I congratulate the correspondent for
admitting that crossovers have, for the most part, been a force of
destruction upon comicdom. Even the old/new Valiant lines have
resorted to crossovers, proving smaller publishers are making fools
of themselves. Now then:
Dear Cap: From ze last mailbag:
"Who, if anyone, should take responsibility for the comics
we buy and read, and for indicating what the content may be?"
The person buying the comic book shoulders that
responsibility -- no one else can, and no other individual or
body should.
That was an easy one! For my next trick, I shall recite
every appearance of Marvel's "The Scarecrow" :)
Short and sweet. Thanks, […]!
Trouble is, even Mr. Smith hasn’t
shouldered the above, nor come to think of it, did the
correspondent.
Sir: I wholeheartedly agree with you on your article
about the Comics Code. The only time I ever think about the Code
is when an article like yours brings it up. I personally have no
idea which comics I read have the Code or not. Furthermore, in
the '80s when I was growing up, not once did my parents check my
comics to see if they carried the Code's Seal of Approval on it.
They couldn't have cared less. My parents were more concerned if
I was sneaking a Playboy than if my copy of Flash was approved
by the Comics Code.
An experience I share -- and I suspect others do, as well. When I
said "Comics Code Seal of Approval" to my mother, she blinked with
no comprehension. Here's more:
And Mr. Smith doesn’t typically do much
better – when did he ever write reviews giving a clear description
of the interior content in any of these books, pre-or-post-CCA? Very
rarely, if at all. So what was his point to start with?
Hi, I read what you said about the Comics Code and I
have to say I agree 100 percent. I was just wondering though,
what would each rating, generally, support? More violence when
nessessary? more adult themes? And would children be safe from
it if parents object? Thank you for your time.
The way Marvel says they'll set it up -- and, given my druthers, I
wish everybody would -- is that they'll have a base-level G/PG
line (the books we're pretty much familiar with now), then a PG-17
line that will be more in line with prime-time TV and "older"
movies, and a Mature (read: R) line that will be pretty
free-wheeling. In other words, the latter line could be used as a
vehicle for stories with real, adult substance and/or include the
sort of blue language we hear every day and probably not shy from
nudity, sexual situations, over-the-top violence and the like. In
other words, Mature-line creators will have the freedom to create
Maus, or The Authority, or some combination thereof. The latter
two lines will be barred from non-adults buying them. Does that
answer your question?
I’m afraid he didn’t answer a more
challenging one: why didn’t he ever seriously complain about how
Marvel since turned their mainstream output into a graphically
violent embarrassment? Almost a decade ago, there was a story where
Straczynski’s dully-written creation called Morlun showed up again
and ate Peter Parker’s eyeball. Need I continue?
Hey Cap! [name/location withheld], wrote:
<<The other thing is the willingness of the characters to
sacrifice a gorilla for Blockbuster. Gorilla City residents are
as intelligent as people and, as far as I can see, just entitled
to live. Chuck Dixon's website speaks a little about his
Christian beliefs. Maybe he thinks killing gorillas is okay
because they don't have souls?>>
Captain Comics replied:
<<I don't attribute the characters' nonchalance about
sacrificing apes for humans as being Dixon's opinions so much as
the characters' opinions. Max Allan Collins said (while writing
Dick Tracy), "Tracy voted for Ronald Reagan, but I didn't." On
the other hand, since I'm not privy to Dixon's mind, you could
be right.>>
For the most part I agree with your answer. However, I'd like
to expand on what you said.
It is vitally important that we remember to separate the
beliefs and opinions of the characters from the beliefs and
opinions of the writer. And it is also important to distinguish
between what a writer depicts and what they condone.
Granted, a writer will often use a character to speak his
or her opinion (just look at Grant Morrison's run on Animal Man)
but that is generally regarded as being propaganda or bad
writing.
I don't think that Chuck Dixon is engaging in that kind of
propaganda. Look at the characters who were actually involved in
"The Hostage Heart!" Five of the eight are villains. The other
two are witnesses who are not directly involved and the hero who
is directly involved is working both undercover and against her
will.
First, Roland Desmond a.k.a. Blockbuster. He has put out
contracts on both Nightwing and Oracle. Obviously, he doesn't
subscribe to the sanctity of life whether human or gorilla.
Second, Grimm, who is a gorilla. Grimm is willing to kill
one of his own kind for the money.
Third, Lady Vic. (Sidenote: It is Lady Victims, not Lady
Victoria, although Nightwing incorrectly assumed the latter in
their first meeting. Her given name is Elaine as revealed in
Birds of Prey #22) She is a hired assassin and has killed
numerous humans. Again, her willingness to kill gorillas is not
indicative of them being a higher or lower life form.
Fourth, Deathstroke. Again, a hired assassin. However, he
was interested in gaining revenge on Gorilla Grodd and had no
interest in the heart.
Fifth, Gorilla Grodd. He is both a gorilla who is willing
to kill his own kind and a villain who is responsible for the
death of Adeline Wilson, Deathstroke's wife. All five of these
villains are equally callous with human and gorilla life.
As for the heroes.
First, Black Canary. She was working deep undercover.
Everyone thought she was Oracle. She was also being forced to be
involved against her will. She had been captured by Blockbuster
at the end of Birds of Prey #21 and his condition for allowing
her to live was that she help him obtain a gorilla's heart. She
even confessed that she "didn't have a choice." Black Canary's
interest was self-preservation. However, she never killed a
gorilla herself.
Second, Oracle. Oracle's professed motivation was that they
would be able to learn the location of Gorilla City and thereby
neutralize Gorilla Grodd, notorious supervillain. Oracle had no
interest in the heart. However, she recognized that in obtaining
the desired information, she was crossing lines that many other
heroes refused to cross.
This is a recurring trend in Oracle's behaviour that has
bothered me. On this site, we've already debated the propriety
of stealing funds from Blockbuster. Others are questioning her
motives and actions regarding hiring Jason Bard to tail Black
Canary. Whether I agree or disagree with her ethics in regard to
"The Hostage Heart!", I can at least say that Oracle is being
consistent.
Which bring us to superhero number three, Ted Kord a.k.a.
Blue Beetle. Ted objects to the entire mission and even brings
up the issue of animal rights.
So where does Chuck Dixon fit in all of this? Well, I think
it's pretty obvious he doesn't side with the villains who are
callous about all forms of life. They're the only ones who are
nonchalant about the death of the unnamed gorilla.
I'm not sure that he sides with the heroes either. Black
Canary and Oracle justified their actions because of some
greater purpose, such as neutralizing Gorilla Grodd. Yet the
heroes themselves disagree about whether or not their greater
purpose was worth it. So it shouldn't be surprising that we
disagree about the morality of their actions. And it shouldn't
surprise us if Chuck Dixon doesn't fully agree with any of his
characters either.
Sounds good to me, […]. As you say, we must distinguish between
the writer and his art. I mean, Stan Lee wrote an awful lot of Red
Skull dialogue, and pretty convincingly -- does that make him a
Fascist? I pretty much buy your argument in toto -- particularly
since, as you say, the heroes were divided on the morality of
their actions. That says GOOD writing to me, since it invites us
all to the debate ... which we are carrying on right here.
Oh for crying out loud! However you write
a villain’s dialogue, that doesn’t mean you literally endorse the
villain (though with the way Mr. Smith endorses horrors like
Identity Crisis, you have to wonder if he does). It’s usually the
heroes who convey what the writer thinks, if they use them as a
platform for their own views. That said, I am aware how that's
changed considerably since, and now we have books featuring
supervillains in the spotlight where the writers could be using them
to convey their thoughts rather than the heroes.
Dear Cap: Green Lantern: Willworld was recommended to
me by my comic-store manager, [name withheld] (Comics and Comix,
downtown Sacramento). I had grave reservations; but gave it a
try (Aaron allows me to return books he recommend; such a deal!)
The coloring is beautiful. The artwork, with the coloring, grew
on me. There are nice "bits of business" regarding the
Guardians, the GL Corps, Sinestro (he was Hal's "mentor'). The
story was fun, if predictable. I guessed the ending after the
introduction; but I didn't care. It was like watching the
Voyager finale. It was "caca" but very well done"caca." The
"special effects" were fun to watch (both Willworld and
Voyager's finale). I think DeMatteis is best when he does a
one-shot with a beginning, middle and end.
A single issue of one of his comics is usually part of
bigger whole that he takes too long, in my opinion, to explain.
When I got over the title of Superman: Where is Thy Sting?, I
enjoyed it (well, except for ending. I kept hoping Death of the
Endless would show up. Heck, I'll take Mistress Death, as
portrayed by Peter David and Jim Starlin. Loved Her appearance
and mythology (!) in the recent Captain Marvels. Really enjoyed
David's portrayal of Thor, one of my favorite characters, when
he is done right; but I digress).
Anyway, is Willworld worth $25? It allowed me to remember
the GL of my "youth." For a while, I could forget Emerald
Whatever. My Hal did not go crazy. My Hal is not a mass
murderer. Couldn't happen. I ought to know, it's my profession.
The Hal of Willworld went on to became the greatest GL of all on
Earth-Consistent Character Portrayal. The "other" Hal who
allegedly did what was portrayed in the comics we read was an
"evil twin" (hope my identical twin sons don't read this!) and
DC just hasn't gotten around to explaining it yet! Bottom-line:
Skim the colored Willworld and set the Wayback Machine to
"Silver Age GL." Whether its worth $25 depends on your
pocketbook and need for nostalgia.
Next best recent comic: Gotham Knights #17. SPOILER
WARNING! My wife and I adopted our 13-year-old son when he was
one week old. Only took Bruce 61 years; but finally! Knew
something was coming in that two-part story; but didn't predict
the ending. It was a good solid fun well drawn
Batman/Nightwing/Oracle story even without the last page; but
WOW!
Next: "deals." My mother is always telling me (yes, I know
I'm 51, she doesn't) about "deals" she can get on recent comics
at Air Force Bases (no tax). Used to listen patiently and
"pass." Finally, she heard me when I explained I liked the
service and enthusiasm of store owners/managers and that some
were friends and you don't take "deals" over friendship, good
service and enthusiasm (besides I get a "savers' discount"
anyway; but that didn't seem to matter to my mother). This she
understood. When, I visit a new store, it is because it is fun
to find a missing comic or just "window shop." Recently, I read
the second part of JLA: Act of God, and realized I didn't have
part three. Called up Aaron. He had eight savers like myself
that wanted a copy; but no backstroke available from Diamond.
Suggested I call other comic shops because he was unlikely to
get a copy in the foreseeable future. Called every store in
Sacramento. Every store manager/owner/employer checked their
stock or knew that that issue was gone. Finally found a store in
Rancho Cordova (nearby suburb of Gotham City, next to where
Nightwing hangs out) that had a copy. Rare store
owner/manager/employee who will not hold a copy of virtually
anything for at least a day. Drove there picked it up. Bought a
few "deals." Was it worth it? Not for the that issue per se but
the drive listening to Stephen King and AudioDigest Psychiatry
and meeting a new store owner was. Also for the "deals."
(Missing issues of Batman: Gotham Adventures for buck at most
stores!)
I'm fascinated by your comments on "Emerald Twilight," Doc --
given that you're a professional psychiatrist. In fact, they had
me grinning from ear to ear.
When I complain about "ET," Kyle Rayner fans accuse me of being a
stodgy, unrepentant Silver Ager unwilling to accept Kyle or take
Hal's breakdown in stride.
They're missing the point. I have nothing against Kyle Rayner. I
have no issue with DC putting Hal out to pasture. I DO have a
problem with HOW it was done. In short: I think "Emerald Twilight"
was a BAD STORY.
You're going to take a guy who's been an upstanding hero for 34
years and make him a lunatic mass murderer? OK, I'll accept that
-- if you CONVINCE me of it. "Emerald Twilight" didn't convince me
of anything, except that DC was determined to get rid of Hal in
the worst way, and didn't care how they went about it.
The story was not character-driven; it was obviously and clearly
EDITOR-driven, which I find reprehensible in any story I read
(like when Marvel sent Mary Jane off to "find herself" -- yeah,
sure). Hal's insanity had no foreshadowing. Hal went mad because
Coast City went blooey -- a city he hadn't lived in since the
early '60s and ALL HIS FRIENDS AND RELATIVES CONVENIENTLY
SURVIVED. So where's the trauma? Six million strangers died --
sad, but so what? Hal took over the green energy and challenged
the Guardians ... um, how? It's been consistently presented that
the Guardians -- who GENERATE the power -- can turn it on and off
like a tap, even cut it in half to a specific ring (Hal's, on a
number of occasions) when it suits their purposes. Hal increases
his power by grabbing power rings ... um, how? ONE ring has
potentially infinite power, so how does having two or five or 10
increase infinity?
I could go on -- and have, believe me -- but, in short: I think
"Emerald Twilight" was full of holes, made no sense, and was just
plain stupid. So you can imagine my reaction to a psychiatrist's
take on Hal's insanity: "Couldn't happen."
That's what I thought. :)
But he doesn’t think Identity Crisis was
full of holes, distorted any past storylines it allegedly drew from,
nor that it depicted the anal rape in a most repellent way, using a
1st-person perspective as though it were some perverted take on
shooting games like Doom? Forget it, Charlie, I’m not convinced.
IMHO, he was on DC’s side all along, and I may have once seen
columns he’d written circa 1995 that give hints he was soft on their
angle. More to the point, he wasn’t writing opinions/arguments per
se, but merely about the topics as news on the surrounding issues,
which doesn’t do much for anybody.
It's about time somebody at Marvel realized that the
comics demographic is no longer the 10- to 15-year-old kids, but
the 10- to 15-year-old kids from 10- to 15-years ago! It's the
people who were kids before vidogames who really like to read
comics, but we want GOOD comics. Ooops, just dated myself.
Well, at least you can be pretty sure of having a date on Saturday
night. :)
Trouble is, those 10-15-year-olds have
remained firmly stuck in that age well into their adult years.
That’s why comicdom’s suffered so badly.
Dear Cap: You really don't like Wizard, do you? I
agree with you on most things but I don't get the same vibe from
Wizard that you do. I find it silly.
Anyway, more food for thought: Do you believe Mad magazine
is as culpable as Wizard in portraying comics fans as
semi-literate weirdos? I mean, I've never heard this discussed,
but Mad's "representative," Alfred E. Neuman, I would guess
was/is someone's representation of the typical reader. Has there
ever been an "origin" of Alfred? I haven't been a regular reader
of Mad for around 25 years but it seems to me that its tone was
condescending to comics and its readership in the days when I
read it. I can't recall specific examples so maybe I'm reaching
here. Just something to throw out there though.
Now on to a few questions:
I just finished acquiring, then reading the last two issues
to complete a 20-issue run of the Ka-Zar series from 1973-77.
The last issue (Feb 77, by Doug Moench/Val Mayerik) ends on a
cliff-hanger in which Ka-Zar is trapped in an alien dimension
along with several friends and the supervillain Klaw The
lettercol indicates that the plot will be resolved but doesn't
say where. Does anyone know how this was wrapped up and where?
Seems to me it would have been perfect fodder for Marvel Team-Up
or Two-In-One but I can't recall ever seeing it.
While we're on the subject, which Ka-Zar series did you
find the most entertaining? And please, Cap, don't tell me the
title is going to be relaunched again. I think five or six tries
resulting in short runs, including a 10- or 11-issue stint in
the black-and-white mag Savage Tales is enough. I didn't read
Mark Waid's attempt in the late '90s because I just get tired of
relaunch after relaunch. Much as I admire Waid, I knew the
project was doomed to a short lifespan.
I think there should be some sort of 20-year statute for
renewing a canceled series. Anyway, one of the creators in the
Ka-Zar series I just read raised an interesting point -- jungle
comics just aren't as thrilling as they used to be, what with
space travel, technology, etc. (and this was in the '70s) which
makes it a real challenge writing such a series. So why do
people keep trying to revive a Ka-Zar title? I thought his
adventures worked best in a black-and-white mag but, alas, the
days of Marvel's black-and-white mags are long gone. At least
for the time being, I hope Ka-Zar is relegated to "guest-star"
or back-up feature.
Also, what does it mean when comics are "remastered" or
"remixed?" I'm cynically assuming it's all BS, just rock-star
buzz-words that comics creators use in a lame attempt to sound
hip. Hey, I have a right to be cynical: Remember Marvel's
"Unplugged" comics from back in the day when MTV's Unplugged was
all the rage? And Marvel also gave us "Marvel Remix." Every so
often I'll see a comic solicited as "remastered" and I just
shake my head. What's the story? How is a comic "remastered?"
And finally, I picked up some issues of Cosmic Powers
Unlimited cheap but haven't read them yet. What was the "Cosmic
Powers" series all about? There was an Unlimited series and,
apparently, a regular series, neither of which lasted very long.
Wizard perpetuates the stereotype of comics fans as sniggering,
arrested-development, can't-get-a-date geeks -- a stereotype I've
been fighting for 35 years. I've stood up for comics to college
roommates, frat boys, dates, snickering supervisors, any and all
challengers -- and taken lots of heat for it, lots of humiliation,
believe you me. I take issue when my paper's managing editor makes
snide remarks, which hurts my career. So my feelings are pretty
damn personal.
As to your questions, I don't think Mad is the same as Wizard at
all. In fact, I've often said that Mad should be required reading
for all American adolescents because it teaches disrespect for all
sacred cows and to question authority. Yeah, it made fun of comics
fans -- it made fun of everything! Further, I don't think anybody
should be reading Mad after high school -- its job should be done
by then, and continued reading IS arrested development. How old is
the average comics reader, 37? Wizard should reflect that,
particularly if it's going to tout itself as an "ambassador" to
the "outside" -- adult -- world. But that's my opinion, and I'd be
interested in others.
I can't recall where that Ka-Zar story was resolved, although I
have a vague memory that it was. Perhaps the Legion of Superfluous
Heroes can help us out.
My favorite Ka-Zar series was, yes, the Mark Waid version. He took
the character out of Tarzan mode and did some interesting things.
The series sold well until he left -- and sales plummeted.
And speaking of Tarzan mode, another aspect of the "Jungle Lord"
thing that isn't appealing these days is the White Guy as King of
the Jungle. That dog don't hunt any more.
As to Cosmic Powers, that was a short-lived attempt by Marvel to
do a new imprint, one recalling the glory days of the '60s
Lee/Kirby and '70s Jim Starlin big-screen approach. Unfortunately,
the creators weren't Lee/Kirby or Starlin, it was the '80s and not
the '60s or '70s, and the new Captain Mar-Vell wasn't the old one.
It tanked.
Oh, and I agree with you -- "Unplugged" and "Marvel Remix" were a
lame attempt to be "hip."
Has he ever been trying to defy the
stereotype of a “fanboy” who’s predisposed to liking horrific
screeds like Identity Crisis, let alone a reporter who goes on
similar paths and political correctness? He’s not qualified for role
of ambassador any more than Wizard was.
<<Betty dumps Archie and takes up with a guy
who doesn't treat her like a doormat. You go, girl! Ah, but
she'll go back to him -- or what will Archie writers write about
for the next 50 years? -- Captain Comics>>
I enjoyed part one but don't look forward to part two for this
very reason. You just KNOW that they'll return to the status
quo. Betty deserves better than that skunk, Archie. I've
maintained for a long time that she's one of the few likable
characters in Riverdale, her only downfall being her fascination
with a creep like Archie Andrews.
I agree. Betty's too good for that fickle redhead.
And I'm also pleased to see I wasn't the only one puzzled by
Divided They Fall!
Well what have we here but two idiots
who’re attacking a redheaded teen who doesn’t exist in real life! If
they really think Archie, of all imaginary characters, is fickle,
why don’t they ask that he get a personality alteration to something
better? Because they’re just too badly educated to tell the
difference between fiction/reality, and they were never truly
respectful of the Archie franchise, I guess.
That concludes this ninth list of letters from the awful Captain
Comics site of old. Let’s turn to the
next one.
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